Jo Cox Street Parties
Discussion
No. It's because it's a simple reality that while people have empathy if it isn't someone they have an actual connection to then their attachment is limited. A friend/family member/colleague/acquaintance will drive a proper reaction.
Though I'm sure as the most right-on person in the whole of PH you organised something or at least attended?
Though I'm sure as the most right-on person in the whole of PH you organised something or at least attended?
Jonesy23 said:
No. It's because it's a simple reality that while people have empathy if it isn't someone they have an actual connection to then their attachment is limited. A friend/family member/colleague/acquaintance will drive a proper reaction.
Though I'm sure as the most right-on person in the whole of PH you organised something or at least attended?
No. I'm not suggesting everyone has to join in. But I'm not the one questioning the numbers and moaning about it all. What's the point of that? Though I'm sure as the most right-on person in the whole of PH you organised something or at least attended?
Randy Winkman said:
Most PHers don't because she was Labour and he was a right-winger.
Consider 'shades of grey'.I would care no more and no less is she had been the local Tory representative or the Princess of Wales (memorials for which I will also not be attending as has been my habit since her death). It is not personal or spiteful, it is simply that (thankfully) I have more important/interesting things to consider than someone else's tragedy, especially a year or twenty years after the event.
A shocking and sad event for her family and friends.
I can leave it as that.
ETA
Randy Winkman said:
No. I'm not suggesting everyone has to join in. But I'm not the one questioning the numbers and moaning about it all. What's the point of that?
I see your point, and to a degree can agree with you.But perhaps if others, i.e. social media and MSM, didn't try to blow it all out of proportion, people here would have no motivation for comment.
I guess some people just like to call "bullcrap" when they smell it.
I have an awful tendency towards that myself.
Strange thing that; some people just don't enjoy being lied to I guess.
Edited by Goaty Bill 2 on Sunday 18th June 11:14
Randy Winkman said:
No. I'm not suggesting everyone has to join in. But I'm not the one questioning the numbers and moaning about it all. What's the point of that?
Are you referring to me questioning it? I'm not in the country and have seen no mention of it from my friends and was interested. What I'm not interested in is if you see a point to my question.I was brought up in Birstall. Moved around a little after uni, but returned to the area after a few years and have been here ever since. Locally, there was a school choir in memory in Heckmondwike, and a small gathering in Birstall, along with a fair few news crews. The subject is still quite sensitive here - an argument erupted in the pub on Friday evening on the very subject of Jo Cox, and whether she should be held in such high esteem.
To some, it is still very raw. In particular, the family of a friend (and former employee) very closely involved that day. To others, just another murder, another incident, another act of senseless violence that shocked at the time, but is fading now. Didn't see or hear about any street parties, or memorial gatherings other than the two mentioned. Jo Cox was my MP, but I never met her, never saw her, and to be honest, never took a great deal of interest in what she stood for - until her death. Can't say I agreed with her political stance, but many around here did and do.
It was a very sad affair. I was driving through the village at the time it happened. It shocked everyone. To the core. A couple of things of note - the family had said they didn't want a permanent memorial in Birstall - this came to light after a few locals attempted to raise a collection to do just that. Most of the locals I have spoken to don't think this should be an annual thing. May she rest in peace, not forgotten, but also not held aloft for the purposes of public grief.
To some, it is still very raw. In particular, the family of a friend (and former employee) very closely involved that day. To others, just another murder, another incident, another act of senseless violence that shocked at the time, but is fading now. Didn't see or hear about any street parties, or memorial gatherings other than the two mentioned. Jo Cox was my MP, but I never met her, never saw her, and to be honest, never took a great deal of interest in what she stood for - until her death. Can't say I agreed with her political stance, but many around here did and do.
It was a very sad affair. I was driving through the village at the time it happened. It shocked everyone. To the core. A couple of things of note - the family had said they didn't want a permanent memorial in Birstall - this came to light after a few locals attempted to raise a collection to do just that. Most of the locals I have spoken to don't think this should be an annual thing. May she rest in peace, not forgotten, but also not held aloft for the purposes of public grief.
Topbuzz said:
Did anyone go or hear of a party in their area?
Telegraph has a quote about 100,000 events and millions attending.
I'd be absolutely astonished if there was anywhere near even 1,000 events for Jo Cox - let alone the bloated figures being quoted. Telegraph has a quote about 100,000 events and millions attending.
ETA - Wikipedia suggests the UK is about 94,000 square miles so that's roughly an event in every square mile of the country. I'm calling b
ks on that. Edited by GloverMart on Sunday 18th June 20:09
And Brendan has finally sunk, feel for the poor kids.
No more street parties neither!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/17/widow-m...
No more street parties neither!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/17/widow-m...
Harry Biscuit said:
Randy Winkman said:
Mail/Telegraph readers dream come true.
Which part? Randy Winkman said:
Harry Biscuit said:
Randy Winkman said:
Mail/Telegraph readers dream come true.
Which part? Top guy, nawt to see here, move along folks!
Randy Winkman said:
He set up the charities in her memory. She was a Labour MP. It just helps Mail/Telegraph readers to feel superior to that Labour lot and helps distract from the fact that she was murdered by a right wing nutter.
Aww, don't be like that. I thought you on the left weren't for labelling entire groups based upon one's predisposition.
Obviously not.
Edited by Harry Biscuit on Sunday 18th February 20:12
im convinced that a certain percentage (who knows what) of left wingers go on like they do because its like having a wk, they get to feel good about preaching a greater good. see facebook, full of people publically lauding corbyn and the left, nobody championing the tories, but who got more votes?
i feel more comfortable with the conservative right because they come across (relatively) as more honest. brendan cox is a classic example of someone preaching to us all about how we need to live and behave, turns out he appears to be a self serving love rat with loose morals who was out for whatever he could get.
k, they get to feel good about preaching a greater good. see facebook, full of people publically lauding corbyn and the left, nobody championing the tories, but who got more votes? i feel more comfortable with the conservative right because they come across (relatively) as more honest. brendan cox is a classic example of someone preaching to us all about how we need to live and behave, turns out he appears to be a self serving love rat with loose morals who was out for whatever he could get.
Jag_NE said:
. brendan cox is a classic example of someone preaching to us all about how we need to live and behave, turns out he appears to be a self serving love rat with loose morals who was out for whatever he could get.
OrA free thinking moral compass who seizes his opportunities and grabs them with both hands ?
Julia Hartley-Brewer has had a pretty good go at him on twitter she isn't holding back suggesting it was well known he was a pest yet people put up with it
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