Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 8
Discussion
technodup said:
'd rather live in about a hundred countries than stty wee cold Norway. Might as well be in stty wee cold Scotland. And that's not on the list. Because it's NOT A fkING COUNTRY!
Does that mean England is not a country either? Nor wales or NI? If they aren't, what are they classed as? Genuine question. biggbn said:
technodup said:
'd rather live in about a hundred countries than stty wee cold Norway. Might as well be in stty wee cold Scotland. And that's not on the list. Because it's NOT A fkING COUNTRY!
Does that mean England is not a country either? Nor wales or NI? If they aren't, what are they classed as? Genuine question. Edinburger said:
technodup said:
Edinburger said:
Ooh... Norway... an independent coutry with a population of a similar size to Scotland of 5m'ish... it must be awful there...
True, their taxes and prices are pretty fking horrendous.- low ranked education
- schools in a terrible state
- health service poor
- endless tracking of folks both fiscally and geographically (police state)
- weather. OMG the weather. West coast is like outer Hebrides x 10 for awful weather.
- Judicial system very poor and stacked against women
- violence towards women
- driving standards
- insularity of the population
- depression
- highest level of long term workers sick leave in the world
- alcoholism - Scotland x 10
- corporate fraud
- etc, etc....
roadtripboy said:
biggbn said:
technodup said:
'd rather live in about a hundred countries than stty wee cold Norway. Might as well be in stty wee cold Scotland. And that's not on the list. Because it's NOT A fkING COUNTRY!
Does that mean England is not a country either? Nor wales or NI? If they aren't, what are they classed as? Genuine question. biggbn said:
roadtripboy said:
biggbn said:
technodup said:
'd rather live in about a hundred countries than stty wee cold Norway. Might as well be in stty wee cold Scotland. And that's not on the list. Because it's NOT A fkING COUNTRY!
Does that mean England is not a country either? Nor wales or NI? If they aren't, what are they classed as? Genuine question. mcdjl said:
biggbn said:
roadtripboy said:
biggbn said:
technodup said:
'd rather live in about a hundred countries than stty wee cold Norway. Might as well be in stty wee cold Scotland. And that's not on the list. Because it's NOT A fkING COUNTRY!
Does that mean England is not a country either? Nor wales or NI? If they aren't, what are they classed as? Genuine question. jshell said:
Edinburger said:
technodup said:
Edinburger said:
Ooh... Norway... an independent coutry with a population of a similar size to Scotland of 5m'ish... it must be awful there...
True, their taxes and prices are pretty fking horrendous.- low ranked education
- schools in a terrible state
- health service poor
- endless tracking of folks both fiscally and geographically (police state)
- weather. OMG the weather. West coast is like outer Hebrides x 10 for awful weather.
- Judicial system very poor and stacked against women
- violence towards women
- driving standards
- insularity of the population
- depression
- highest level of long term workers sick leave in the world
- alcoholism - Scotland x 10
- corporate fraud
- etc, etc....
Edinburger said:
jshell said:
Edinburger said:
technodup said:
Edinburger said:
Ooh... Norway... an independent coutry with a population of a similar size to Scotland of 5m'ish... it must be awful there...
True, their taxes and prices are pretty fking horrendous.- low ranked education
- schools in a terrible state
- health service poor
- endless tracking of folks both fiscally and geographically (police state)
- weather. OMG the weather. West coast is like outer Hebrides x 10 for awful weather.
- Judicial system very poor and stacked against women
- violence towards women
- driving standards
- insularity of the population
- depression
- highest level of long term workers sick leave in the world
- alcoholism - Scotland x 10
- corporate fraud
- etc, etc....
I'm going for a few days... not emigrating!
Edinburger said:
jshell said:
Edinburger said:
technodup said:
Edinburger said:
Ooh... Norway... an independent coutry with a population of a similar size to Scotland of 5m'ish... it must be awful there...
True, their taxes and prices are pretty fking horrendous.- low ranked education
- schools in a terrible state
- health service poor
- endless tracking of folks both fiscally and geographically (police state)
- weather. OMG the weather. West coast is like outer Hebrides x 10 for awful weather.
- Judicial system very poor and stacked against women
- violence towards women
- driving standards
- insularity of the population
- depression
- highest level of long term workers sick leave in the world
- alcoholism - Scotland x 10
- corporate fraud
- etc, etc....
I'm going for a few days... not emigrating!
Welshbeef said:
Sadly (yes there are a lot of SAD depressed Norwegians but that’s the perpetual darkness of no darkness the other time of year) they don’t have nearly £600billion debt and a 7%++ deficit off the bat with a annual govt spend of c£60billion. If they did it wouldn’t be great at all they would be taxed to the hilt for countless generations. Never have any money to do anything.
That’s the difference you’ve built up Such vast debts that as an independent country you couldn’t service the interest let alone pay it down unless you had either crippling tax hikes and big public sector cuts, which given over 50% of Scots work in the public sector would snowball the issue.
Solve this and you could do it - but you have legacy debt and off balance sheet debt and the highest in the western world deficit spend vs tax take so it’s simply a pipe dream.
Don't be silly Beefy.That’s the difference you’ve built up Such vast debts that as an independent country you couldn’t service the interest let alone pay it down unless you had either crippling tax hikes and big public sector cuts, which given over 50% of Scots work in the public sector would snowball the issue.
Solve this and you could do it - but you have legacy debt and off balance sheet debt and the highest in the western world deficit spend vs tax take so it’s simply a pipe dream.
That debt and defecit is all the fault of Westminster and therefore belongs the the rUK and NOT Scotland. Scotland has no debt and would leave with no-debt and all of the North Sea Oil. Upon which Saint Nicola will build the greenest economy in Europe (errr, based on oil revenue).
Its all pretty simple really.
Usually is easy when it's all bks!
Do I do the same and vote Labour to try to oust the sitting SNP ?
Or do I assume the SNP will win and vote Tory so as to give them a better base to build from next time?
Or do I simply write 'fk the SNP' on the paper?
SNP Stewart McDonald 18,312
Labour Eileen Dinning 16,285
Conservative Taylor Muir 8,506
Liberal Democrats Ewan Hoyle
Or do I assume the SNP will win and vote Tory so as to give them a better base to build from next time?
Or do I simply write 'fk the SNP' on the paper?
SNP Stewart McDonald 18,312
Labour Eileen Dinning 16,285
Conservative Taylor Muir 8,506
Liberal Democrats Ewan Hoyle
Bit of a wasted vote for me - the Tory candidate was abandoned by the party for stupid tweets 7 years ago, voted for him anyway, as literally anything would be better than a SNP coalition with Steptoe and his merry band of Commies.
I'm hoping that the other parties can hold the SNP to their current levels, but I have a horrible sinking feeling they will win a huge chunk of seats and we will have 5 more years of nonsense and national embarrassment from them.
If Baloonford lost his seat then I would call it enough of a victory - I have no doubt there will be some other odious cretin to take his place, but as when Angus Robertson lost his seat, seeing bad things happen to awful people really does warm your heart.
Even if the SNP storm it, Blackford out of a job and Salmond behind bars nest year would be enough for me - Scotland is being run into the ground either way - if a couple of the perpetrators get their comeuppance along the way then at least we can all laugh while the ship sinks.
I'm hoping that the other parties can hold the SNP to their current levels, but I have a horrible sinking feeling they will win a huge chunk of seats and we will have 5 more years of nonsense and national embarrassment from them.
If Baloonford lost his seat then I would call it enough of a victory - I have no doubt there will be some other odious cretin to take his place, but as when Angus Robertson lost his seat, seeing bad things happen to awful people really does warm your heart.
Even if the SNP storm it, Blackford out of a job and Salmond behind bars nest year would be enough for me - Scotland is being run into the ground either way - if a couple of the perpetrators get their comeuppance along the way then at least we can all laugh while the ship sinks.
Scrubs said:
That's my tactical vote done for East Dunbartonshire. Been forced to select that diddy Jo Swinson to keep that other diddy from the SNP out. If there had been a 'fire them all into the sea' option though, I would have taken that.
What, John Nicolson?technodup said:
Do I do the same and vote Labour to try to oust the sitting SNP ?
Or do I assume the SNP will win and vote Tory so as to give them a better base to build from next time?
Or do I simply write 'fk the SNP' on the paper?
SNP Stewart McDonald 18,312
Labour Eileen Dinning 16,285
Conservative Taylor Muir 8,506
Liberal Democrats Ewan Hoyle
It's a difficult one, I think I would go for the conservative, just because wee cranky is so against them, anything that make her Or do I assume the SNP will win and vote Tory so as to give them a better base to build from next time?
Or do I simply write 'fk the SNP' on the paper?
SNP Stewart McDonald 18,312
Labour Eileen Dinning 16,285
Conservative Taylor Muir 8,506
Liberal Democrats Ewan Hoyle
Unhappy is a good thing.
PRTVR said:
It's a difficult one, I think I would go for the conservative, just because wee cranky is so against them, anything that make her
Unhappy is a good thing.
I'm all for making her unhappy, but surely a Labour win would make her more unhappy than a Tory near (or likely not very near) miss?Unhappy is a good thing.
But then if Labour actually took it I'd be helping Corbyn get in... talk about being stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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