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Tony33

1,065 posts

121 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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PH XKR said:
benjiwengy said:
Halb said:
A flat tax welded onto a land value tax might be the fairest most equitable of all?
It is. The YPPUK are proposing to replace most taxes with a flat 20% tax on all income + LVT. From that a typical UK working household would be over £10K a year better off.

You can download their free compare your tax app at Google Play.
If the average is 10k better off, how on earth would be fill the void left by the lack of tax?
Through LVT (Land Value Tax)

Likes Fast Cars

2,769 posts

164 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
Likes Fast Cars said:
Take your pick. One of the biggest is the ability to hire & fire as the economic cycle shifts, or as the business strategy drives the need to relocate / restructure / change fundamental aspects of the business. Instead of being able to ramp up or down with staff numbers (or even roles) with certainty of costs (by that I include exposure to "unfair dismissal" claims, etc., as enshrined in EU Law) the need for ZHC's and other mechanisms has gained momentum. It's out there, the IoD has published enough on it including members' surveys expressing their concerns at EU Regulation.
ROFL. You think that companies can't hire and fire staff as they need? Please tell me what can prevent company to fire any employee with less than two years of service?

Unfair dismissal laws are purely down to UK govt.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. None whatsoever. Unsurprisingly.
It's quite evident you have zero concept of anything, troll. Go place somewhere else with the little ones.

FiF

43,963 posts

250 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Tony33 said:
PH XKR said:
benjiwengy said:
Halb said:
A flat tax welded onto a land value tax might be the fairest most equitable of all?
It is. The YPPUK are proposing to replace most taxes with a flat 20% tax on all income + LVT. From that a typical UK working household would be over £10K a year better off.

You can download their free compare your tax app at Google Play.
If the average is 10k better off, how on earth would be fill the void left by the lack of tax?
Through LVT (Land Value Tax)
Essentially they are talking about levying business rates on domestic property. Being jaundiced as they are the proportion of the population with the lowest home ownership then the extra would come from everyone else bar them. Somewhat provocative interpretation admittedly.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

108 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Murph7355 said:
Steady on petal, I wasn't meaning you smile (Though you were coming close to self labelling wink).

"Marconi" - visit the French politics thread again. I am fully away of his real name. Seems rare on here. A bit like Tim Fallon biggrin
I didn't think or care if you called me 'SJW'. I find it funny that a grown up would use that term.



Murph7355

37,651 posts

255 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
I didn't think or care if you called me 'SJW'. I find it funny that a grown up would use that term.

No more so than a video meme with Vinnie Jones, surely?

Some tags help define a group. Grown up or not, SJW seems increasingly apt these days.

Forgot to add biggrin

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

108 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Likes Fast Cars said:
jjlynn27 said:
Likes Fast Cars said:
Take your pick. One of the biggest is the ability to hire & fire as the economic cycle shifts, or as the business strategy drives the need to relocate / restructure / change fundamental aspects of the business. Instead of being able to ramp up or down with staff numbers (or even roles) with certainty of costs (by that I include exposure to "unfair dismissal" claims, etc., as enshrined in EU Law) the need for ZHC's and other mechanisms has gained momentum. It's out there, the IoD has published enough on it including members' surveys expressing their concerns at EU Regulation.
ROFL. You think that companies can't hire and fire staff as they need? Please tell me what can prevent company to fire any employee with less than two years of service?

Unfair dismissal laws are purely down to UK govt.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. None whatsoever. Unsurprisingly.
It's quite evident you have zero concept of anything, troll. Go place somewhere else with the little ones.
'troll' hehe.

When all your opinions are the sum of express.co.uk headlines, people will, quite rightly, call you stupid.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

108 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Murph7355 said:
No more so than a video meme with Vinnie Jones, surely?

Some tags help define a group. Grown up or not, SJW seems increasingly apt these days.

Forgot to add biggrin
Vinnie is funny smile.

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
I didn't think or care if you called me 'SJW'. I find it funny that a grown up would use that term.
Looks like a sideways attempt at censorship.

If anyone finds use of SJW funny they get a free laugh in any case.

There may however be alternative terms that can be used in this and similar cases, e.g. hexagonal ice crystal.

Back on-topic: May is considering keeping the pension triple lock as per this very recent (last 10 mins at the time of posting) update over at the DT.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/26/general...


Halb

53,012 posts

182 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
Vinnie is funny smile.
What was the film?

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

108 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Halb said:
What was the film?
Snatch.

Mrr T

12,152 posts

264 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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gothatway said:
Back to the question of right to remain (whether in the UK or the rEU) :

My understanding is that it is up to individual members of the EU to determine their policy regarding rights to work/live for nationals of countries outside the EU.
Hence the 27 rEU members will each decide for themselves whether to allow UK nationals to remain in their countries; it is not something which the EU can impose on them, and hence not something which the EU could agree in exchange for the UK granting a right to remain for EU nationals already in the UK.

Can anyone confirm (or deny) my understanding of the situation ?
Your correct. This will require primary legislation in 27 countries. The Brexit buffoons will tell you this will only take 10 minutes.

Mrr T

12,152 posts

264 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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andy_s said:
Likes Fast Cars said:
TLandCruiser said:
My wife is an EU national with permanent residence here but the reason why we have never bothered to get citizenship so far, is dispite living here for over ten years and running her own business she is required to sit an English and life in the U.K. Test.

She would loose her residency in her home country too, which would stop us buying land, so if we purchased a house as a foreigner the land would become leasehold from the government where as if she keeps her passport we will be able to purchase the land freehold.

It's a bit stupid but they do it to prevent foreign investment from buying and owning all the land.
This is one of the totally st situations in the so-called EU, why haven't the EU done something constructive and worthwhile (IMO) by getting these countries to change such laws on property ownership? No wonder we wanted out from the EU.
Hold on though - you want the EU to change a sovereign nations laws? Isn't that one of the reasons we're leaving the EU...?
I always find it amusing the EU rules regarding ownership of property by EU citizens do not apply in one part of one EU country.

sidicks

25,218 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Mrr T said:
Your correct. This will require primary legislation in 27 countries. The Brexit buffoons will tell you this will only take 10 minutes.
I always find it amusing when 'buffoons' are unable to use "your" and "you're" correctly...

It would take each EU country a very short amount of time to say 'yes' or 'no'.


Mrr T

12,152 posts

264 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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sidicks said:
Mrr T said:
Your correct. This will require primary legislation in 27 countries. The Brexit buffoons will tell you this will only take 10 minutes.
I always find it amusing when 'buffoons' are unable to use "your" and "you're" correctly...

It would take each EU country a very short amount of time to say 'yes' or 'no'.
I see we have the grammar police out. Shame they do not know how to include quotes.

The EU have already made this clear in there negotiation guidelines. However, this will require primary legislation in 27 countries. That will take time.


sidicks

25,218 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Mrr T said:
I see we have the grammar police out. Shame they do not know how to include quotes.

The EU have already made this clear in there negotiation guidelines. However, this will require primary legislation in 27 countries. That will take time.
Do you mean 'their' negotiation guidelines?

But you do agree that getting approval from 27 countries is quite complicated and constraining. Interesting...

mx-6

5,983 posts

212 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
'SJW'
Just had to google that, I thought it was going to be something derogatory but, social justice warrior. Could be taken as a compliment and worn as a badge of honour by some I should think.

Mrr T

12,152 posts

264 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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sidicks said:
Mrr T said:
I see we have the grammar police out. Shame they do not know how to include quotes.

The EU have already made this clear in there negotiation guidelines. However, this will require primary legislation in 27 countries. That will take time.
Do you mean 'their' negotiation guidelines?

But you do agree that getting approval from 27 countries is quite complicated and constraining. Interesting...
Still no idea how to use quotes.

So yes the EU council negotiation guidelines include mutual recognition of the rights of EU residence. However, this is THEIR guidelines. If the UK agree it will need legislation in 28 counties (28 because the UK will also have to pass new legislation).

danllama

5,728 posts

141 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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I think the 27 EU countries will have a very easy time deciding.

Poland: Right, we have 12 productive and clever UK citizens. They have 100,000 of our drunkards. What shall we do?

Tough decision.

wink

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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mx-6 said:
jjlynn27 said:
'SJW'
Just had to google that, I thought it was going to be something derogatory but, social justice warrior. Could be taken as a compliment and worn as a badge of honour by some I should think.
That's exactly how it originated, as a positive self-label.

Times change and various things have been known to return to plague their inventor.

Trax

1,527 posts

231 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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danllama said:
I think the 27 EU countries will have a very easy time deciding.

Poland: Right, we have 12 productive and clever UK citizens. They have 100,000 of our drunkards. What shall we do?

Tough decision.

wink
I agree, we wont have any problems. The majority of the 1 million brits living long term in the EU are in Spain 300k, France, 100k, Germany 100k Netherlands 50k, and about 25k each in Belgium, Cyprus, Italy, Sweden and Portugal.

The majority of the 3 million EU people living in the UK are from Poland 900k+, Romania 200k, Portugal 200k, Italy 200k Lithuania 200k and France 200k.

I cannot see the mainly retirees living in Spain, France etc will not be overly welcome indefinitely, or not be allowed to move over in the future.

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