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turbobloke

103,945 posts

260 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Likes Fast Cars said:
The right to breathe the air blowing across from the continent on a sunny day..... laugh
Trans-boundary pollution from europe taking us above EU pollution limits, risking hefty fines payable to the EU - good point!

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

109 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Likes Fast Cars said:
Take your pick. One of the biggest is the ability to hire & fire as the economic cycle shifts, or as the business strategy drives the need to relocate / restructure / change fundamental aspects of the business. Instead of being able to ramp up or down with staff numbers (or even roles) with certainty of costs (by that I include exposure to "unfair dismissal" claims, etc., as enshrined in EU Law) the need for ZHC's and other mechanisms has gained momentum. It's out there, the IoD has published enough on it including members' surveys expressing their concerns at EU Regulation.
ROFL. You think that companies can't hire and fire staff as they need? Please tell me what can prevent company to fire any employee with less than two years of service?

Unfair dismissal laws are purely down to UK govt.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. None whatsoever. Unsurprisingly.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

109 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Murph7355 said:
To be fair I suspect most of that we have done to ourselves. Only the French are better at it (which I believe Marconi wants to sort).

I'm surprised the rest of the SJWs haven't jumped down your throat asking which other human rights you wish removed when we leave smile
'rest of SJW' - ahahahahaha

Marconi? Macron?

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
Please tell me what can prevent company to fire any employee with less than two years of service?

Quite a few issues outside of unfair dismissal.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
ROFL. You think that companies can't hire and fire staff as they need? Please tell me what can prevent company to fire any employee with less than two years of service
http://www.jaluch.co.uk/hr-blast/dismissing-staff-with-short-service/

http://www.morton-fraser.com/knowledge-hub/dismiss...

http://www.masonbullock.co.uk/two-years/

Of course you can sack who you like, but the employee may still have recourse.






anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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bmw535i said:
Of course you can sack who you like, but the employee may still have recourse.
Hardly onerous is it?

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

109 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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bmw535i said:
Thanks. Sounds like normal and reasonable stuff. Not sure that not being able to fire someone because they are black or pregnant is a problem.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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desolate said:
Hardly onerous is it?
I don't think so

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
Thanks. Sounds like normal and reasonable stuff. Not sure that not being able to fire someone because they are black or pregnant is a problem.
Ok, so you concede there are reasons then.

Are you two you quoted the only ones?

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

109 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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bmw535i said:
Ok, so you concede there are reasons then.

Are you two you quoted the only ones?
Always so literal.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
Always so literal.
I can only go on what you say I'm afraid.


Murph7355

37,711 posts

256 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
'rest of SJW' - ahahahahaha

Marconi? Macron?
Steady on petal, I wasn't meaning you smile (Though you were coming close to self labelling wink).

"Marconi" - visit the French politics thread again. I am fully away of his real name. Seems rare on here. A bit like Tim Fallon biggrin

gothatway

5,783 posts

170 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Back to the question of right to remain (whether in the UK or the rEU) :

My understanding is that it is up to individual members of the EU to determine their policy regarding rights to work/live for nationals of countries outside the EU.
Hence the 27 rEU members will each decide for themselves whether to allow UK nationals to remain in their countries; it is not something which the EU can impose on them, and hence not something which the EU could agree in exchange for the UK granting a right to remain for EU nationals already in the UK.

Can anyone confirm (or deny) my understanding of the situation ?

loafer123

15,440 posts

215 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Given all of the countries of the EU will have to approve any dea with the UK, I don't think that matters...it will just be another paragraph in the agreement.

Nevertheless, it will be an important one for all sides and will help motivate everyone to reach a wider agreement.

benjiwengy

26 posts

158 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Halb said:
A flat tax welded onto a land value tax might be the fairest most equitable of all?
It is. The YPPUK are proposing to replace most taxes with a flat 20% tax on all income + LVT. From that a typical UK working household would be over £10K a year better off.

You can download their free compare your tax app at Google Play.

PH XKR

1,761 posts

102 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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benjiwengy said:
Halb said:
A flat tax welded onto a land value tax might be the fairest most equitable of all?
It is. The YPPUK are proposing to replace most taxes with a flat 20% tax on all income + LVT. From that a typical UK working household would be over £10K a year better off.

You can download their free compare your tax app at Google Play.
If the average is 10k better off, how on earth would be fill the void left by the lack of tax?

Jonmx

2,544 posts

213 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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PH favourite George Monbiot has written a piece for the Guardian about why we should all vote for Corbyn and chums; thanks but no thanks George you humourless buffoon.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr...

And apologies if we've had it already, but another PH favourite, Owen Jones has set up a 'Stop a Tory Landslide' fund that will donate money to Labour MP's who's seats are under threat laugh
https://www.crowdpac.co.uk/campaigns/2320/the-stop...


Fastdruid

8,640 posts

152 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Jonmx said:
And apologies if we've had it already, but another PH favourite, Owen Jones has set up a 'Stop a Tory Landslide' fund that will donate money to Labour MP's who's seats are under threat laugh
https://www.crowdpac.co.uk/campaigns/2320/the-stop...
So all of them then.... wink

B'stard Child

28,395 posts

246 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Fastdruid said:
Jonmx said:
And apologies if we've had it already, but another PH favourite, Owen Jones has set up a 'Stop a Tory Landslide' fund that will donate money to Labour MP's who's seats are under threat laugh
https://www.crowdpac.co.uk/campaigns/2320/the-stop...
So all of them then.... wink
Beaten to it......

Oh well have. Well deserved rofl

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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B'stard Child said:
Fastdruid said:
Jonmx said:
And apologies if we've had it already, but another PH favourite, Owen Jones has set up a 'Stop a Tory Landslide' fund that will donate money to Labour MP's who's seats are under threat laugh
https://www.crowdpac.co.uk/campaigns/2320/the-stop...
So all of them then.... wink
Beaten to it......

Oh well have. Well deserved rofl
If the Tories are going to win so crushingly, isn't the nonsense spouted by the likes of Little Owen at least partly to blame?

Maybe he should start a crowd fund to pay him to shut up for the next five years?
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