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[BigMon]

sidicks said:

He's said no such thing. He said that it was 'generally' those on the left that committed these types of atrocities.

I'm not claiming this is true either, but at least address the point he has made, not an entirely different one!

He stated the following.

Likes Fast Cars said:

In your opinion it may have been, and you're entitled to that. I am speaking about the loony left and what I have stated is factual.

Edited by Likes Fast Cars on Wednesday 24th May 07:10

Is it 'my opinion' that right wing organisations have massacred innocents too?

[robemcdonald]

sidicks said:

He's said no such thing. He said that it was 'generally' those on the left that committed these types of atrocities.

I'm not claiming this is true either, but at least address the point he has made, not an entirely different one!

Sidicks I get the impression you would defend anyone or any comment from someone with a similar ideology to yourself. In a way it's an admirable trait, but when talking about mass murder to not mention the Holocaust seriously devalues the argument.

[sidicks]

robemcdonald said:

Sidicks I get the impression you would defend anyone or any comment from someone with a similar ideology to yourself. In a way it's an admirable trait, but when talking about mass murder to not mention the Holocaust seriously devalues the argument.

Nonsense. I'm clearly not defending anything he's said and simply addressing the point that the other poster made, not one that some people thought he made. You should try it!

Edited by sidicks on Wednesday 24th May 08:45

[BigMon]

robemcdonald said:

Sidicks I get the impression you would defend anyone or any comment from someone with a similar ideology to yourself. In a way it's an admirable trait, but when talking about mass murder to not mention the Holocaust seriously devalues the argument.

I'm glad it's not just me! I can't believe anyone would try and defend such a ludicrous non-argument.

[BigMon]

sidicks said:

Nonsense. I'm just addressing the point that the other poster made, not one that some people thought he made. You should try it!

He stated that loony lefties massacred innocents (which they have) without conceding that loony righties have massacred innocents too.

Re-read what has been posted, and tell me if the above is incorrect.

[sidicks]

BigMon said:

He stated that loony lefties massacred innocents (which they have) without conceding that loony righties have massacred innocents too.

Re-read what has been posted, and tell me if the above is incorrect.

Does 'without conceding' mean that he has has stated the opposite, or has he simply not commented on 'the loony righties'.

I can't see anything that suggests he has denied that the 'loony righties' have committed similar atrocities. Can you help?

[sidicks]

BigMon said:

I'm glad it's not just me! I can't believe anyone would try and defend such a ludicrous non-argument.

I'm defending nothing that he said, I've made that quite clear. Sorry if you don't understand the difference.

[BigMon]

sidicks said:

Does 'without conceding' mean that he has has stated the opposite, or has he simply not commented on 'the loony righties'.

I can't see anything that suggests he has denied that the 'loony righties' have committed similar atrocities. Can you help?

A summation as requested:

Likes Fast Cars said:

It's generally these sick fk lefties who murder innocents - Venezuela right now, Vietnam in the '60s & '70s. aholes. Bring on the routing of these disgusting individuals and their political hero Corbyn.

BigMon said:

Have a think about whether any right-wing parties might have murdered innocents. Think about it really hard, then come back to us with an answer.

Likes Fast Cars said:

In your opinion it may have been, and you're entitled to that. I am speaking about the loony left and what I have stated is factual.

Edited by Likes Fast Cars on Wednesday 24th May 07:10

HTH

[sidicks]

BigMon said:

HTH

So where has he denied that 'looney righties' have performed similar atrocities?

Clearly by the use of the word 'generally' (whether you believe that to be the case or not) he's acknowledging that it's not solely 'loony lefties' who do this?

[BigMon]

sidicks said:

So where has he denied that 'looney righties' have performed similar atrocities?

Clearly by the use of the word 'generally' (whether you believe that to be the case or not) he's acknowledging that it's not solely 'loony lefties' who do this?

When asked if 'loony righties' have committed atrocities too he stated that it's my opinion and I'm entitled to it.

Whereas 'loony lefties' committing atrocities is factual.

The whole thing is beyond parody anyway. Subjective nonsense. We are merely arguing about the semantics of what he said (and it appears we have different opinions on it).

[gooner1]

sidicks said:

BigMon said:

HTH

So where has he denied that 'looney righties' have performed similar atrocities?

Clearly by the use of the word 'generally' (whether you believe that to be the case or not) he's acknowledging that it's not solely 'loony lefties' who do this?

So if it is generally accepted that "looney righties" have performed similar atrocities,what exactly was the point of the post?

[sidicks]

BigMon said:

When asked if 'loony righties' have committed atrocities too he stated that it's my opinion and I'm entitled to it.

Whereas 'loony lefties' committing atrocities is factual.

I think you'll find his comment:

Likes Fast Cars said:

In your opinion it may have been, and you're entitled to that. I am speaking about the loony left and what I have stated is factual.

Was in response to your claim that:

BigMon said:

Regardless, your original point was laughably ludicrous.

So 1) you've misunderstand his original comment
And 2) he is quite explicit that he's not commenting on the loony right only the loony left.

HTH

Edited by sidicks on Wednesday 24th May 09:05

[sidicks]

gooner1 said:

So if it is generally accepted that "looney righties" have performed similar atrocities,what exactly was the point of the post?

You'll have to ask him, but if you read his post, you'll see that he believes that 'generally' these atrocities are associated with the loony left.

Perhaps you can put together a score card to work out if he is correct or not?

Edited by sidicks on Wednesday 24th May 09:05

[BigMon]

sidicks said:

You'll have to ask him, but if you read his post, you'll see that he believes that generally these atrocities are associated with the loony left.

And do you not think that, possibly, this is subjective nonsense without posting facts to prove it?

Also, do you not think it is not exactly presenting a balanced argument to only give left wing examples?

[gooner1]

sidicks said:

gooner1 said:

So if it is generally accepted that "looney righties" have performed similar atrocities,what exactly was the point of the post?

You'll have to ask him, but if you read his post, you'all see that he believes that generally these atrocities are associated with the loony left.

Perhaps you can put together a score card to work out if he is correct or not?

So you don't understand the point of the post either.

[sidicks]

gooner1 said:

So you don't understand the point of the post either.

I certainly understand what the word 'generally' means. Whether his opinion is accurate or not, I've no idea.

Do you not understand what the word means? Have you tried using Google for an explanation?

Edited by sidicks on Wednesday 24th May 09:15

[sidicks]

BigMon said:

And do you not think that, possibly, this is subjective nonsense without posting facts to prove it?

It may or may not be. As I've quite clearly said, I'm not defending his opinion, simply trying to correct your misunderstanding.

BigMon said:

Also, do you not think it is not exactly presenting a balanced argument to only give left wing examples?

Is that how PH is supposed to work - you have to give a balanced argument to any point you make?

[gooner1]

gooner1 said:

sidicks said:

gooner1 said:

So if it is generally accepted that "looney righties" have performed similar atrocities,what exactly was the point of the post?

You'll have to ask him,




So you don't understand the point of the post either.

[BigMon]

sidicks said:

It may or may not be. As I've quite clearly said, I'm not defending his opinion, simply trying to correct your misunderstanding.

Which you have done. I did misunderstand his response.

sidicks said:

Is that how PH is supposed to work - you have to give a balanced argument to any point you make?

Evidently not!

[sidicks]

BigMon said:

sidicks said:

It may or may not be. As I've quite clearly said, I'm not defending his opinion, simply trying to correct your misunderstanding.

Which you have done. I did misunderstand his response.

sidicks said:

Is that how PH is supposed to work - you have to give a balanced argument to any point you make?

Evidently not!

Thanks for the apology.