2017 Election Result - a PH poll
Poll: 2017 Election Result - a PH poll
Total Members Polled: 395
Discussion
Conservatives because we need a PM with some backbone for Brexit. The other 'leaders' would simply ask the EU what they want. Just glad Cameron ran away, imagine the choice of PM then? 
Brexit is happening whether we agree with it or not. What we cannot afford is a weak leader in negotiations.
Brexit is happening whether we agree with it or not. What we cannot afford is a weak leader in negotiations.
///ajd said:
You may well be right.
It will be interesting to see if the LibDems can coral an effective "anti-hard brexit" vote - they'll be held back by Farrons personality unfortunately.
I think they'll do OK but if the surveys are to be believed Bexit is only a defining issue with about 15% of the electorate and half of them will be for Leave.It will be interesting to see if the LibDems can coral an effective "anti-hard brexit" vote - they'll be held back by Farrons personality unfortunately.
They might lose seats as well. Take Southport as an example. They have a majority over the Tories of just 1322 votes but there were 7429 votes for UKIP. If they go to the Tories the LibDems may struggle to hold on. There is a similar story in Carshalton (LibDem majority of 1500 but 7000 UKIP votes) and even Norman Lamb in Norfolk may have a majority of 4000 but there are 8000 UKIP votes there as well.
technodup said:
sidicks said:
Efbe said:
I vote almost entirely on what the parties will do for the NHS and Education. I bear no allegiance to any party.
I care not about taxation, or defense, or the policies aimed for the illiterate are retarded, i.e. immigration, religion, benefits etc
So in summary, you like "shiny things" but have no interest in whether (or by who) they can be paid for)?I care not about taxation, or defense, or the policies aimed for the illiterate are retarded, i.e. immigration, religion, benefits etc
You sound like the ideal Labour voter!!
And I've read JawKnee.
"I care not for taxation" would give the meaning you seem to be looking for.
There isn't an option for "none of the above" which is currently what I'm considering spoiling my voting slip with.
As a Conservative voter, they've now moved too far to the left for me with their tax increases. They no longer represent me.
I won't be able to claim mortgage interest as a cost on the house from which I get rental income, even though this isn't a BTL house but my ex-marital home. Yet somebody setting up a limited company to manage their BTL properties will be able to do so. Crazy.
Osborne changed the long-standing method by which my small company's dividends are taxed, costing me considerably more, and then the idiot Hammond extended this in the last budget whilst naively attacking the self-employed with his NI increase, which he had to back down from of course. The change in dividend taxation will also hit core Conservative voters amongst the retired who depend upon dividend income.
They have shown their colours and I believe they will tax these sectors further. At the moment, I couldn't bring myself to vote for them, and there are no viable options.
As a Conservative voter, they've now moved too far to the left for me with their tax increases. They no longer represent me.
I won't be able to claim mortgage interest as a cost on the house from which I get rental income, even though this isn't a BTL house but my ex-marital home. Yet somebody setting up a limited company to manage their BTL properties will be able to do so. Crazy.
Osborne changed the long-standing method by which my small company's dividends are taxed, costing me considerably more, and then the idiot Hammond extended this in the last budget whilst naively attacking the self-employed with his NI increase, which he had to back down from of course. The change in dividend taxation will also hit core Conservative voters amongst the retired who depend upon dividend income.
They have shown their colours and I believe they will tax these sectors further. At the moment, I couldn't bring myself to vote for them, and there are no viable options.
Edited by RegMolehusband on Sunday 23 April 10:30
RegMolehusband said:
There isn't an option for "none of the above" which is currently what I'm considering spoiling my voting slip with.
As a Conservative voter, they've now moved too far to the left for me with their tax increases. They no longer represent me.
I won't be able to claim mortgage interest as a cost on the house from which I get rental income, even though this isn't a BTL house but my ex-marital home. Yet somebody setting up a limited company to manage their BTL properties will be able to do so. Crazy.
Osborne changed the long-standing method by which my small company's dividends are taxed, costing me considerably more, and then the idiot Hammond extended this in the last budget whilst naively attacking the self-employed with his NI increase, which he had to back down from of course. The change in dividend taxation will also hit core Conservative voters amongst the retired who depend upon dividend income.
They have shown their colours and I believe they will tax these sectors further. At the moment, I couldn't bring myself to vote for them, and there are no viable options.
You're right, I forgot that. Added now. Probably too late though, can you change vote?As a Conservative voter, they've now moved too far to the left for me with their tax increases. They no longer represent me.
I won't be able to claim mortgage interest as a cost on the house from which I get rental income, even though this isn't a BTL house but my ex-marital home. Yet somebody setting up a limited company to manage their BTL properties will be able to do so. Crazy.
Osborne changed the long-standing method by which my small company's dividends are taxed, costing me considerably more, and then the idiot Hammond extended this in the last budget whilst naively attacking the self-employed with his NI increase, which he had to back down from of course. The change in dividend taxation will also hit core Conservative voters amongst the retired who depend upon dividend income.
They have shown their colours and I believe they will tax these sectors further. At the moment, I couldn't bring myself to vote for them, and there are no viable options.
Edited by RegMolehusband on Sunday 23 April 10:30
Wobbegong said:
Brexit is happening whether we agree with it or not. What we cannot afford is a weak leader in negotiations.
That sums up my view - we aren't voting for a PM, we're voting for somebody who can negotiate - with the current choices there is only one option.Fallon/Corbyn look completely unsuitable, regardless of the bonus of extra bank holidays
andy43 said:
That sums up my view - we aren't voting for a PM, we're voting for somebody who can negotiate - with the current choices there is only one option.
Fallon/Corbyn look completely unsuitable, regardless of the bonus of extra bank holidays
Surely no one actually believes that the British PM, whoever it is, will be the person sitting across the table day in, day out, negotiating the fine detail of our exit and ongoing relationship. The PM leads the team that sets the agenda, not the team that does the grunt work. Fallon/Corbyn look completely unsuitable, regardless of the bonus of extra bank holidays
RegMolehusband said:
There isn't an option for "none of the above" which is currently what I'm considering spoiling my voting slip with.
As a Conservative voter, they've now moved too far to the left for me with their tax increases. They no longer represent me.
I won't be able to claim mortgage interest as a cost on the house from which I get rental income, even though this isn't a BTL house but my ex-marital home. Yet somebody setting up a limited company to manage their BTL properties will be able to do so. Crazy.
Osborne changed the long-standing method by which my small company's dividends are taxed, costing me considerably more, and then the idiot Hammond extended this in the last budget whilst naively attacking the self-employed with his NI increase, which he had to back down from of course. The change in dividend taxation will also hit core Conservative voters amongst the retired who depend upon dividend income.
They have shown their colours and I believe they will tax these sectors further. At the moment, I couldn't bring myself to vote for them, and there are no viable options.
the problem you have it seems to me is ( and I agree with you) if you don't vote for left wing Conservative party you get communist labour under Corbin which would be a disaster.As a Conservative voter, they've now moved too far to the left for me with their tax increases. They no longer represent me.
I won't be able to claim mortgage interest as a cost on the house from which I get rental income, even though this isn't a BTL house but my ex-marital home. Yet somebody setting up a limited company to manage their BTL properties will be able to do so. Crazy.
Osborne changed the long-standing method by which my small company's dividends are taxed, costing me considerably more, and then the idiot Hammond extended this in the last budget whilst naively attacking the self-employed with his NI increase, which he had to back down from of course. The change in dividend taxation will also hit core Conservative voters amongst the retired who depend upon dividend income.
They have shown their colours and I believe they will tax these sectors further. At the moment, I couldn't bring myself to vote for them, and there are no viable options.
Edited by RegMolehusband on Sunday 23 April 10:30
Greg66 said:
andy43 said:
That sums up my view - we aren't voting for a PM, we're voting for somebody who can negotiate - with the current choices there is only one option.
Fallon/Corbyn look completely unsuitable, regardless of the bonus of extra bank holidays
Surely no one actually believes that the British PM, whoever it is, will be the person sitting across the table day in, day out, negotiating the fine detail of our exit and ongoing relationship. The PM leads the team that sets the agenda, not the team that does the grunt work. Fallon/Corbyn look completely unsuitable, regardless of the bonus of extra bank holidays
people we can remove from office if they screw it up and land us with brexit light and a wooly deal that leaves us
still shackled to the EUSSR ....
i voted none of the above . will probably vote for a local independent candidate. was on the brink of voting conservative due to them being the least worse of the most incompetent self serving group of politicians the uk has ever had ,imo. fortunately i came to my senses due to a post by another ph'er in another forum that reminded why i tend to dislike the self centred mindset of many (not all)that rise to the the upper echelons of the tory party.
powerstroke said:
Greg66 said:
andy43 said:
That sums up my view - we aren't voting for a PM, we're voting for somebody who can negotiate - with the current choices there is only one option.
Fallon/Corbyn look completely unsuitable, regardless of the bonus of extra bank holidays
Surely no one actually believes that the British PM, whoever it is, will be the person sitting across the table day in, day out, negotiating the fine detail of our exit and ongoing relationship. The PM leads the team that sets the agenda, not the team that does the grunt work. Fallon/Corbyn look completely unsuitable, regardless of the bonus of extra bank holidays
people we can remove from office if they screw it up and land us with brexit light and a wooly deal that leaves us
still shackled to the EUSSR ....
It is often said that the best compromise of an acrimonious negoition is an outcome that neither side is happy with. So prepared to be disappointed...
fido said:
jmorgan said:
Gone for Coby. Dead cert. He will be great for the country.
Have I missed a 'whoosh' parrot? 
Tough. MY current MP is a moron, I have talked to her a few times. She is labour, but I like JC...however I support Parliamentary democracy so I won't vote for the clot. I'll take a look at the rest, but most 'parties' are gangs of thugs. I don't see anyone reasonable getting through, I hope there is a decent independent.
powerstroke said:
Hackney said:
CaptainSlow said:
User33678888 said:
I'm constantly amazed at the people rooting for a hard brexit regardless of consequence.
Do you not realise quite how f
ked we'd be economically if we couldn't trade with 27 of our biggest partners for just a year?
Perhaps you're all too young to remember the 3 day week.
This country is populated by morons.
Why can't we trade? Are you one of the morons?Do you not realise quite how f
ked we'd be economically if we couldn't trade with 27 of our biggest partners for just a year? Perhaps you're all too young to remember the 3 day week.
This country is populated by morons.
remain narrative ...
53% of our imports into the UK came from other countries in the EU in 2016
Some of that UK>EU trade is made up of non EU companies (Nissan, Toyota to name a couple) who "manufacture" in the UK as a way into the EU. Nissan's backhanders aside how will this continue? What will be the impact on those companies' suppliers?
A company I did some work for recently has already bought a production site in the EU in order to avoid potential tarifs and barriers to trade, but how many UK manufacturing companies can do that?
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