Social Justice Syndrome: ‘Rising Tide of Personality Disorde

Social Justice Syndrome: ‘Rising Tide of Personality Disorde

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Sylvaforever

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2,212 posts

97 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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"The idea of “running to the safe space” is a form of psychological regression. The safe space presents a fantasy barrier against imagined exterior evils, and so encourages persecution paranoia and hyper-fragility. These are all symptoms of histrionic, borderline, and paranoid personality disorders that emerge from problems with the early child-parent bond."


http://linkis.com/pjmedia.com/blog/ElYnK

Enjoy.

esxste

3,665 posts

105 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Heh, the author makes no mention about how millennials have been screwed over by the 'baby boomers'.

Millennials are the first generation who will do less well than their parents.

Is it their fault?

Or is it the fault of the generation that turned Britain into a service economy, encouraged the millennials to study for degrees but fail to create anything more than zero-hour contract jobs for them to take. Not to mention the added bonus of saddling them with a lifetime of debt to sap their resources. Or to mention the housing policy that has inflated house prices ensuring millennials have to save for 10-20 years before being able to afford their own home.

And on top of all that, millennials are called "snowflakes".

Blame the parents I say.

Murph7355

37,649 posts

255 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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esxste said:
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Blame the parents I say.
Indeed (though individuals do not have to be spoon fed by them either. There is a choice).

And which generation are the parents from? smile

ClaphamGT3

11,269 posts

242 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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esxste said:
Heh, the author makes no mention about how millennials have been screwed over by the 'baby boomers'.

Millennials are the first generation who will do less well than their parents.

Is it their fault?

Or is it the fault of the generation that turned Britain into a service economy, encouraged the millennials to study for degrees but fail to create anything more than zero-hour contract jobs for them to take. Not to mention the added bonus of saddling them with a lifetime of debt to sap their resources. Or to mention the housing policy that has inflated house prices ensuring millennials have to save for 10-20 years before being able to afford their own home.

And on top of all that, millennials are called "snowflakes".

Blame the parents I say.
And therein you encapsulate the problem. Millenials believe it is someone else's responsibility to set them up for success; we generation X/Y lot knew that was for us to do for ourselves

esxste

3,665 posts

105 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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ClaphamGT3 said:
And therein you encapsulate the problem. Millenials believe it is someone else's responsibility to set them up for success; we generation X/Y lot knew that was for us to do for ourselves
Gen Y are the millennials.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

157 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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esxste said:
encouraged the millennials to study for degrees but fail to create anything more than zero-hour contract jobs for them to take.
Nobody created a job for me to take- I made my own career.

They could always do the same for themselves rather than expecting others to do it for them.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

185 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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esxste said:
Millennials are the first generation who will do less well than their parents.
Try telling that to the generation born in about 1890-1900.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Clapham, I personally believe the millennials have been dealt a st hand by their parents' generation, in terms of housing and employment in particular.
This safe place thing is somewhat different if it even exists in reality. When I was a lad, if I got a bit stressed at Uni, my safe places were the S.U bar or the library! One for a little banter,entertainment and cheap alcohol, the other for a little peace, contemplation and learning opportunity.
To me it seems to be something that's been constructed out of fear and prejudice. Those that wish to bring gender and sexuality into politics have dreamed up this situation, abetted by weak-minded faculty managers who are either too scared to question the concept through fear of being branded something-ist or so thick they actually think it's a good idea. Universities are for progression, not regression. This seems like a step backwards in my opinion. There are too many agendas here. Each little sub-group looking to gain something for themselves, to gain recognition, often to deny that to someone else. Screw them! The millennials are becoming fractured and divided by this politics. By looking to portray another as the enemy, or the cause of their problems, they absolve themselves of the responsibility that they are supposed to be taking at that age. When they do this they don't acknowledge their own failings or problems and therefore never really deal with them. That's not good for society.

Goaty Bill 2

3,393 posts

118 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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ClaphamGT3 said:
esxste said:
Heh, the author makes no mention about how millennials have been screwed over by the 'baby boomers'.

Millennials are the first generation who will do less well than their parents.

Is it their fault?

Or is it the fault of the generation that turned Britain into a service economy, encouraged the millennials to study for degrees but fail to create anything more than zero-hour contract jobs for them to take. Not to mention the added bonus of saddling them with a lifetime of debt to sap their resources. Or to mention the housing policy that has inflated house prices ensuring millennials have to save for 10-20 years before being able to afford their own home.

And on top of all that, millennials are called "snowflakes".

Blame the parents I say.
And therein you encapsulate the problem. Millenials believe it is someone else's responsibility to set them up for success; we generation X/Y lot knew that was for us to do for ourselves
I seem to recall quite a lot of people, 10-15 years older than myself, loudly protesting their parents back in the '60s / '70s and how they had been left a screwed up world, and they had all the right answers.

Unfortunately, a few of them didn't actually bother growing up, stayed resentful and worse, some of them ended up in teaching.

Blame the previous generation, maintain that your nihilism is justified as a result of their mistakes, revel in the belief that 'none of this is my fault', lose at life. Wash and repeat.


ATG

20,480 posts

271 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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ClaphamGT3 said:
And therein you encapsulate the problem. Millenials believe it is someone else's responsibility to set them up for success; we generation X/Y lot knew that was for us to do for ourselves
To be fair, it didn't take a great deal of imagination for someone growing up in the 70s and early 80s to grasp that point. To help get the point across the British motoring industry helpfully stopped building cars and started sculpting works of art that spoke of instability, impermanence, decline and the banality of the every day. When viewed in that context the genius of the Austin Allegro is revealed.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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This phenomenon is a big problem now in many western democracies particularly in Scandinavia where laid back schools and parents taught their kids it was all about them and they were special and could do anything. The youngsters are taught to find their true self and focus on experiences but in reality, the self is constantly evolving.

Unfortunately reality bites when they enter the work place. Many are now suffering from depression and other mental illness related to a rigid sense of the self and self worth and unrealistic expectations.

Michael Puett Harvard lecturer does a good podcast on this and how Chinese philosophy might have some answers.

http://www.podcastchart.com/podcasts/dan-snow-s-hi...



jamoor

14,506 posts

214 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Goaty Bill 2 said:
I seem to recall quite a lot of people, 10-15 years older than myself, loudly protesting their parents back in the '60s / '70s and how they had been left a screwed up world, and they had all the right answers.

Unfortunately, a few of them didn't actually bother growing up, stayed resentful and worse, some of them ended up in teaching.

Blame the previous generation, maintain that your nihilism is justified as a result of their mistakes, revel in the belief that 'none of this is my fault', lose at life. Wash and repeat.
Well try telling that to a Greek millenial.


dxg

8,121 posts

259 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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anonymous said:
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Universities will do anything it takes to keep the money flowing in. Forget about principles, they disappeared when 50% participation and league tables arrived.

Goaty Bill 2

3,393 posts

118 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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jamoor said:
Goaty Bill 2 said:
I seem to recall quite a lot of people, 10-15 years older than myself, loudly protesting their parents back in the '60s / '70s and how they had been left a screwed up world, and they had all the right answers.

Unfortunately, a few of them didn't actually bother growing up, stayed resentful and worse, some of them ended up in teaching.

Blame the previous generation, maintain that your nihilism is justified as a result of their mistakes, revel in the belief that 'none of this is my fault', lose at life. Wash and repeat.
Well try telling that to a Greek millenial.
Impossible. <insert memorable Shakespearean quote here>


esxste

3,665 posts

105 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Rovinghawk said:
Nobody created a job for me to take- I made my own career.

They could always do the same for themselves rather than expecting others to do it for them.
Of course you did. I'm sure it was a hard battle the whole way, and nothing at all was ever in your favour.

Or we can look objectively at the various statistics that show wealth distribution has over the years skewered towards the upper end of the age spectrum. The term "bank of mum and dad" is indicative of this. The older generations generate more wealth (mostly through property price rises & buy to let, but also the fact less of them are dying and are retiring later)

The millennials are the generation that were told to go to university, rack up student loans, in the promise of fantastic jobs. Now they've come out of university, the promised jobs ended up being mostly zero-hour, minimum wage service jobs. Even those who've made a success of themselves struggled to earn enough to reach the first rung of the housing ladder. This is proven by the average age of first time buyers increasing.







chrisb92

1,051 posts

123 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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ClaphamGT3 said:
And therein you encapsulate the problem. Millenials believe it is someone else's responsibility to set them up for success; we generation X/Y lot knew that was for us to do for ourselves
Agreed. I was born in 1992 and If you want something, you have to go out and work hard for it. It was the same for my Dad and it's the same for me. The main difference I've noticed is house prices and, yes it was much easier to buy back when my parents did. So what? It is life and I'll have to make sure I save enough!! Moaning and crying won't make house prices fall. I'm 24 and quite a few of my close friends already own houses (in the south east where prices are mental).

esxste

3,665 posts

105 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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anonymous said:
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I think this is a good assessment.

Also worth noting that todays Uni students are mostly Gen Z.

ATG

20,480 posts

271 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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El stovey said:
The youngsters are taught to find their true self and focus on experiences but in reality, the self is constantly evolving.
"True self" is probably an illusion, but simply focusing on oneself is bad enough, ironically, even from a selfish perspective.

Focusing on self almost always really means "worrying about what other people think about me" and "thinking about the things I'd like to have but don't". Pretty obviously, that's self-defeating.

Chasing experience often actually means seeking distraction, being entertained, not actually engaging with something new and thought-provoking.

The old adage "you get out what you put in" is the unavoidable truth. There is no shortcut to contentment and satisfaction; you have to graft. Fortunately for most of us, grafting is not optional. We have it thrust upon us, we often resent it, yet it actually gives our lives structure, gives us at the minimum the satisfaction that we are self-supporting, and the confidence that self-reliance brings.

When stuff comes too easily we don't value it. Which is a bit st as I'd love someone to give me a ton of stuff for doing fk all and then be able to enjoy it.

Goaty Bill 2

3,393 posts

118 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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esxste said:
Rovinghawk said:
Nobody created a job for me to take- I made my own career.

They could always do the same for themselves rather than expecting others to do it for them.
Of course you did. I'm sure it was a hard battle the whole way, and nothing at all was ever in your favour.

Or we can look objectively at the various statistics that show wealth distribution has over the years skewered towards the upper end of the age spectrum. The term "bank of mum and dad" is indicative of this. The older generations generate more wealth (mostly through property price rises & buy to let, but also the fact less of them are dying and are retiring later)

The millennials are the generation that were told to go to university, rack up student loans, in the promise of fantastic jobs. Now they've come out of university, the promised jobs ended up being mostly zero-hour, minimum wage service jobs. Even those who've made a success of themselves struggled to earn enough to reach the first rung of the housing ladder. This is proven by the average age of first time buyers increasing.
My generation was told exactly the same thing as you state in your last paragraph, and most of my friends of similar age to me did exactly that.
I've paid a few hundreds of thousands in personal and corporation taxes over the years to keep the people of my parents generation in their pension payments.
My father has often said; they lived through the best of times - ever.

I've had three major career changes and one minor change and, will likely have to do the same again, with a lot fewer options left because of my age.
There is nothing left for me now never mind when I am finally forced to retire.
There would be little point in blaming my parents or their 'generation'.

Do tell me what good it will do me to complain about those facts?

The Social Justice Warriors being described in the article, are the very people who will keep people where they are, and will make things even worse for every generation to follow.
They will keep telling you that everyone is 'equal' - people really are not just in case anyone is in doubt.
Deserving of equal opportunity and equal outcomes are two very different things.

Stop believing that everyone deserves the same life outcome - they bloody don't.
Stop believing that government should do something to help/fix - they bloody won't.
Stop believing that blaming the previous generation will somehow help - it bloody can't.

We would all do well to learn something of the previous two generations before diving in to blame them.
My parents grew up through the depression and the Second World war. Their fathers both went to the trenches in WW1 and did what they could in WW2 as chaplains to the military, being by that time too old for the front.
Even though my father was at the time a journeyman machinist and heavily in demand, and my mother worked in the bank, they used wooden boxes for furniture for the first 2-3 years of marriage, because that was all they could afford. i.e.free.
They were not alone, I have heard them swapping stories with old friends.

I feel the pain of people realising there are so few jobs for graduates, or for anyone else for that matter.
It's a situation I've faced at each of three recessions, each of which seemed to last longer than the official mouthpieces were telling us.


Just for the record, I think that the article describing the 'millenials' as SJWs is unfair and inaccurate. This 'syndrome' is represented across all generations and in many, many cultures / countries, though principally in the west.


Digga

40,206 posts

282 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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ATG said:
the genius of the Austin Allegro is revealed.
The phrase which richly deserves a forum-wide ban of at least a fortnight.

Now please sanitise your keyboard!