Social Justice Syndrome: ‘Rising Tide of Personality Disorde
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ATG said:
I too wonder if pensioners will actually be able to preserve the value of their capital.
There's the politics. If a yoof asks why his taxes or the profits of his employer are being paid to a pensioner and the answer is, "40 years ago I lent the government money to fund the services we all benefitted from back then, and I bought some shares 40 years ago too", there has to be a risk that the yoof is going to say, "Tough luck, Grandad. I wasn't around 40 years so I'll be damned if I'm going to be bound by that arrangement."
And there's also the pure economics. If you've got a load of pensioners producing nothing, but sitting on piles of cash, and they try to buy the output of a shrinking productive workforce, the elderly's cash is going to trigger price inflation and that in turn will naturally trigger wage inflation. The net effect will be the devaluation of pensioners' assets and income. The productive workers will continue pretty much as before.
If pensioners' interests diverge wildly from the interests of the rest of the population, the pensioners are always going to lose and suffer because ultimately they've got nothing much to bargain with.
When all the pensioners want to sell-up or downsize property at once - as the baby boomers inevitably must - and the generations following them cannot afford to gear-up to buy enough of these homes, there will be interesting things happen to the property market.There's the politics. If a yoof asks why his taxes or the profits of his employer are being paid to a pensioner and the answer is, "40 years ago I lent the government money to fund the services we all benefitted from back then, and I bought some shares 40 years ago too", there has to be a risk that the yoof is going to say, "Tough luck, Grandad. I wasn't around 40 years so I'll be damned if I'm going to be bound by that arrangement."
And there's also the pure economics. If you've got a load of pensioners producing nothing, but sitting on piles of cash, and they try to buy the output of a shrinking productive workforce, the elderly's cash is going to trigger price inflation and that in turn will naturally trigger wage inflation. The net effect will be the devaluation of pensioners' assets and income. The productive workers will continue pretty much as before.
If pensioners' interests diverge wildly from the interests of the rest of the population, the pensioners are always going to lose and suffer because ultimately they've got nothing much to bargain with.
I do partly agree the millennials have been dealt a bit of a s
t deal. Property is hugely expensive - buy or rent - and the education system many of them went through was fked up by a government that imaged we'd all work in IT or some other service sector, when, in fact, the real science and engineering qualifications were still needed and now imported in many cases. However, the millennials are guilty of compounding their own mess, by insisting on everything being perfect - new cars, foreign holidays, new furniture - and the lack of compromise and make do and mend is a definite element.csd19 said:
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"Actually, as an intersectional male feminist, it’s impossible for me to be sexist."
Need to remember that one! Or not...
That must be a pisstake, Shirley??
There are a few others"Actually, as an intersectional male feminist, it’s impossible for me to be sexist."
Need to remember that one! Or not...
That must be a pisstake, Shirley??
We Must Oppose All Types of Fascism, Even Anti-Trump Fascism
I would say that this is someone who has a pretty good grip on the underlying non-arguments of the SJW brigade and has produced a reasonably clever trolling piece.
Hats off to him/her.
I think it's safe to say that examples of each of the absurd claims and the tail eating reasoning that have been around for some time; some have even appeared on PH lately.
I've helped out a few times with grad recruitment at a large IT company, mostly just helping filter CVs. Over the last 15 years I've seen the quality of candidates' CV improve dramatically. Obviously anybody applying would always have an IT related degree but it used to be rare to see candidates with DoE, can play a musical instrument, compete at a reasonable level for a sport, performed regular charity work, active in various school/uni societies, speak a second/third language, etc. now the majority of candidates have a stellar CV with a mix of a large number of those items.
While a number of kids go to Uni to do degrees that do not lead directly to employment, the standard of those that do a degree with a direct path to employment is much higher.
About 20/25 years ago you could still get a decent job with a history degree, now you are going to struggle to get anything other than teaching. Crap careers advice has always been the majority of advice on offer, but now you have to pay to go to Uni it is even more important to get it right.
While a number of kids go to Uni to do degrees that do not lead directly to employment, the standard of those that do a degree with a direct path to employment is much higher.
About 20/25 years ago you could still get a decent job with a history degree, now you are going to struggle to get anything other than teaching. Crap careers advice has always been the majority of advice on offer, but now you have to pay to go to Uni it is even more important to get it right.
tankplanker said:
I've helped out a few times with grad recruitment at a large IT company, mostly just helping filter CVs. Over the last 15 years I've seen the quality of candidates' CV improve dramatically. Obviously anybody applying would always have an IT related degree but it used to be rare to see candidates with DoE, can play a musical instrument, compete at a reasonable level for a sport, performed regular charity work, active in various school/uni societies, speak a second/third language, etc. now the majority of candidates have a stellar CV with a mix of a large number of those items.
While a number of kids go to Uni to do degrees that do not lead directly to employment, the standard of those that do a degree with a direct path to employment is much higher.
About 20/25 years ago you could still get a decent job with a history degree, now you are going to struggle to get anything other than teaching. Crap careers advice has always been the majority of advice on offer, but now you have to pay to go to Uni it is even more important to get it right.
I would largely agree except around one point; where you do your degree is massively important; someone with a good history degree from a Russell Group university is likely to have much better and wider prospects than someone who has the same degree from a former FE college.While a number of kids go to Uni to do degrees that do not lead directly to employment, the standard of those that do a degree with a direct path to employment is much higher.
About 20/25 years ago you could still get a decent job with a history degree, now you are going to struggle to get anything other than teaching. Crap careers advice has always been the majority of advice on offer, but now you have to pay to go to Uni it is even more important to get it right.
ATG said:
If pensioners' interests diverge wildly from the interests of the rest of the population, the pensioners are always going to lose and suffer because ultimately they've got nothing much to bargain with.
Except their votes, which, in this country, has been allowing them to hold far more power than they should for years!ClaphamGT3 said:
I would largely agree except around one point; where you do your degree is massively important; someone with a good history degree from a Russell Group university is likely to have much better and wider prospects than someone who has the same degree from a former FE college.
The better the Uni then the better the chance for any degree, although if you are looking to get into something other than teaching with a History degree I'd politely suggest doing another degree entirely or adding on a masters in something employable even if you are going to Oxford unless your family is well connected. Employment after Uni is a percentages game for that first job, once you have a track record and know how to present it, the less relevant your degree/uni becomes, it'll never be irrelevant, just less relevant.Nanook said:
Kermit power said:
Except their votes, which, in this country, has been allowing them to hold far more power than they should for years!
Pardon?Their votes should be worth less? You shouldn't be allowed to vote beyond a certain age.
Obviously, that's not what you meant, but can you explain what you did mean?
The bourgeoisie privilege?
Power to the proletariat comrades!
fblm said:
Sitting in starbucks on a macbook pro complaining about your opportunities when your great grandmother was learning to type and your great grandfathers safe space was a trench knee deep in blood and feces is whining in my book.
Quite.Something they also need to understand is that one Government promoted social mobility by allowing those with the smarts to excel. Then another Government took power and in the name of equality dragged everyone down to a common denominator and promised the earth.
Sound familiar?
Jonmx said:
Isn't the reaction article a bit satirical? "It doesn’t matter that Brienne of Snarth looks like she could’ve been one of Eva Braun’s maids of honor and has a level of income that completely insulated her from the practical realities of life for most of the human population, particularly people of color- she supported Hillary Clinton for president, wrote extensively about the meaning of Beyoncé, and appropriated black slang, which apparently even in the “post-racial” America of 2016 is enough for the Ku Klux Berniebros to label a person black and form their online lynch mob."
Mothersruin said:
fblm said:
Sitting in starbucks on a macbook pro complaining about your opportunities when your great grandmother was learning to type and your great grandfathers safe space was a trench knee deep in blood and feces is whining in my book.
Quite.Something they also need to understand is that one Government promoted social mobility by allowing those with the smarts to excel. Then another Government took power and in the name of equality dragged everyone down to a common denominator and promised the earth.
Sound familiar?
Let's be honest, many of the 'baby boomer' generation didn't see it that way either. the support for communism was huge in '60s youth intellectual culture.
The Social Justice Marxist philosophical underpinnings are not recognisable to those that don't know Marx, nor to those that have been taught nothing about the numerous failed communist states of the 20th century, and why they ultimately failed.
There is nothing wrong with humanitarian socialism (to my way of thinking), if carefully thought through, but expectations of equality of outcome are pure nonsense.
OpulentBob said:
Jonmx said:
Isn't the reaction article a bit satirical? "It doesn’t matter that Brienne of Snarth looks like she could’ve been one of Eva Braun’s maids of honor and has a level of income that completely insulated her from the practical realities of life for most of the human population, particularly people of color- she supported Hillary Clinton for president, wrote extensively about the meaning of Beyoncé, and appropriated black slang, which apparently even in the “post-racial” America of 2016 is enough for the Ku Klux Berniebros to label a person black and form their online lynch mob."
MrBrightSi said:
But it was just old people and retards who voted for brexit 
Wont somebody please think of the children! (Who didn't even show up to vote)
Joking aside, it is interesting (see the discussion on French politics in other thread) that support for Le Pen was strong with younger voters; some 40% of 18 to 24 year olds. The demographic issues there - chronic youth unemployment - have resulted in a slightly different skew to the millennial dilemma. Wont somebody please think of the children! (Who didn't even show up to vote)Digga said:
MrBrightSi said:
But it was just old people and retards who voted for brexit Wont somebody please think of the children! (Who didn't even show up to vote)
Joking aside, it is interesting (see the discussion on French politics in other thread) that support for Le Pen was strong with younger voters; some 40% of 18 to 24 year olds. The demographic issues there - chronic youth unemployment - have resulted in a slightly different skew to the millennial dilemma. Wont somebody please think of the children! (Who didn't even show up to vote)I do struggle to understand where this envy of achievement and this want to hamstring those who do well comes from.
I do have young cousins in their mid teens who are more to the right and hold conservative views in regards to achievments, personal responsiblity and what not, i just can't figure out how my group of 25-30's are especially desperate to blame everything on others and spout such stupidity like "it's those rich greedy tories fault" when they're living an anchored life of kids had too young, in an area with plenty of low skilled workers and not many low skilled jobs. Yet they cannot see that they're making a tidy earning off the backs of other people just for having some sprogs but still blame the people funding their lifestyle for their piss poor choices.
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