Boris Johnson - Secret Weapon OR Achilles Heel?
Discussion
deadslow said:
sidicks said:
Tankrizzo said:
What's this obsession with where people went to school 30 years ago?
Something to do with chips and shoulders, I suspect.anonymous said:
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Indeed so.His buffoonery charms the proletariat.
His wild social engineering via civil engineering schemes impressed a certain type, when that type was his principal target audience.
Under it all is a keen mind focused on a single goal...
It is not for me to say upon who he models himself, but suffice to say, he is known to be quite fond of a large cigar and long walks in the Oxfordshire countryside when not in the public eye.
AnotherClarkey said:
How many of us get to choose where we go to school? Discriminating against people about things over which they have no control is wrong isn't it? Yet it seems acceptable to use this as a personal slight.
One could argue that the salient personal slight here is a serving foreign secretary deploying a personal insult against the leader of Her Majesty's opposition.No matter. On the school issue, quite right - a child has little say on where they are sent. The outcome of those decisions however is demonstrably a serious discrimination against those who weren't fortunate enough to have benefited from the enormous discrete advantages of landing a place at one of those schools & especially that one. 19 out of 54 to date.
We do not live in a meritocracy, few people in the world do and that is a shame.
Wobbegong said:
Tankrizzo said:
What's this obsession with where people went to school 30 years ago?
Some bizarre inverse snobbery. There seems to be a dislike of those who want to better the lives of their family.Eddie Strohacker said:
One could argue that the salient personal slight here is a serving foreign secretary deploying a personal insult against the leader of Her Majesty's opposition.
No matter. On the school issue, quite right - a child has little say on where they are sent. The outcome of those decisions however is demonstrably a serious discrimination against those who weren't fortunate enough to have benefited from the enormous discrete advantages of landing a place at one of those schools & especially that one. 19 out of 54 to date.
We do not live in a meritocracy, few people in the world do and that is a shame.
The whole Labour ethos appears to be about pulling people down to the lowest common denominator, not providing the opportunity for people to pull themselves up. The Labour approach to grammar schools is a perfect demonstration of that.No matter. On the school issue, quite right - a child has little say on where they are sent. The outcome of those decisions however is demonstrably a serious discrimination against those who weren't fortunate enough to have benefited from the enormous discrete advantages of landing a place at one of those schools & especially that one. 19 out of 54 to date.
We do not live in a meritocracy, few people in the world do and that is a shame.
Edited by sidicks on Thursday 27th April 09:45
Goaty Bill 2 said:
anonymous said:
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Indeed so.His buffoonery charms the proletariat.
His wild social engineering via civil engineering schemes impressed a certain type, when that type was his principal target audience.
Under it all is a keen mind focused on a single goal...
It is not for me to say upon who he models himself, but suffice to say, he is known to be quite fond of a large cigar and long walks in the Oxfordshire countryside when not in the public eye.
Are their any feasible routes left for his ambition. Without that and without the veil all that is left is the foolery
AnotherClarkey said:
How many of us get to choose where we go to school? Discriminating against people about things over which they have no control is wrong isn't it? Yet it seems acceptable to use this as a personal slight.
Do we all ignore it if people are badly parented and poorly educated? Surely that's mostly no fault of their own? I am losing confidence in Boris.
His buffoonery is not what I want to see or hear from a person in High Office.
The next years will be a hard slog,what with Brexit and the many other problems of foreign policy,terrorism etc.
I prefer to see some gravitas and however academically bright and clever Boris is,for me it's not translating into a man I can trust to lead us forward.
His buffoonery is not what I want to see or hear from a person in High Office.
The next years will be a hard slog,what with Brexit and the many other problems of foreign policy,terrorism etc.
I prefer to see some gravitas and however academically bright and clever Boris is,for me it's not translating into a man I can trust to lead us forward.
avinalarf said:
I am losing confidence in Boris.
His buffoonery is not what I want to see or hear from a person in High Office.
The next years will be a hard slog,what with Brexit and the many other problems of foreign policy,terrorism etc.
I prefer to see some gravitas and however academically bright and clever Boris is,for me it's not translating into a man I can trust to lead us forward.
Fair comment.His buffoonery is not what I want to see or hear from a person in High Office.
The next years will be a hard slog,what with Brexit and the many other problems of foreign policy,terrorism etc.
I prefer to see some gravitas and however academically bright and clever Boris is,for me it's not translating into a man I can trust to lead us forward.
sidicks said:
The whole Labour ethos appears to be about pulling people down to the lowest common denominator, not providing the opportunity for people to pull themselves up. The Labour approach to grammar schools is a perfect demonstration of that.
I didn't mention labour. Edited by sidicks on Thursday 27th April 09:45
sidicks said:
Eddie Strohacker said:
One could argue that the salient personal slight here is a serving foreign secretary deploying a personal insult against the leader of Her Majesty's opposition.
No matter. On the school issue, quite right - a child has little say on where they are sent. The outcome of those decisions however is demonstrably a serious discrimination against those who weren't fortunate enough to have benefited from the enormous discrete advantages of landing a place at one of those schools & especially that one. 19 out of 54 to date.
We do not live in a meritocracy, few people in the world do and that is a shame.
The whole Labour ethos appears to be about pulling people down to the lowest common denominator, not providing the opportunity for people to pull themselves up. The Labour approach to grammar schools is a perfect demonstration of that.No matter. On the school issue, quite right - a child has little say on where they are sent. The outcome of those decisions however is demonstrably a serious discrimination against those who weren't fortunate enough to have benefited from the enormous discrete advantages of landing a place at one of those schools & especially that one. 19 out of 54 to date.
We do not live in a meritocracy, few people in the world do and that is a shame.
Edited by sidicks on Thursday 27th April 09:45
London424 said:
sidicks said:
Eddie Strohacker said:
One could argue that the salient personal slight here is a serving foreign secretary deploying a personal insult against the leader of Her Majesty's opposition.
No matter. On the school issue, quite right - a child has little say on where they are sent. The outcome of those decisions however is demonstrably a serious discrimination against those who weren't fortunate enough to have benefited from the enormous discrete advantages of landing a place at one of those schools & especially that one. 19 out of 54 to date.
We do not live in a meritocracy, few people in the world do and that is a shame.
The whole Labour ethos appears to be about pulling people down to the lowest common denominator, not providing the opportunity for people to pull themselves up. The Labour approach to grammar schools is a perfect demonstration of that.No matter. On the school issue, quite right - a child has little say on where they are sent. The outcome of those decisions however is demonstrably a serious discrimination against those who weren't fortunate enough to have benefited from the enormous discrete advantages of landing a place at one of those schools & especially that one. 19 out of 54 to date.
We do not live in a meritocracy, few people in the world do and that is a shame.
Edited by sidicks on Thursday 27th April 09:45
No less than you would expect from the hypocritical Left, as per Benn and tax avoidance.
menousername said:
Goaty Bill 2 said:
anonymous said:
[redacted]
Indeed so.His buffoonery charms the proletariat.
His wild social engineering via civil engineering schemes impressed a certain type, when that type was his principal target audience.
Under it all is a keen mind focused on a single goal...
It is not for me to say upon who he models himself, but suffice to say, he is known to be quite fond of a large cigar and long walks in the Oxfordshire countryside when not in the public eye.
Are their any feasible routes left for his ambition. Without that and without the veil all that is left is the foolery
We only have to look at the common motivations so often given by people on both sides of the Brexit vote, to see how little the average person actually reasons, never mind actually knows.
turbobloke said:
London424 said:
sidicks said:
Eddie Strohacker said:
One could argue that the salient personal slight here is a serving foreign secretary deploying a personal insult against the leader of Her Majesty's opposition.
No matter. On the school issue, quite right - a child has little say on where they are sent. The outcome of those decisions however is demonstrably a serious discrimination against those who weren't fortunate enough to have benefited from the enormous discrete advantages of landing a place at one of those schools & especially that one. 19 out of 54 to date.
We do not live in a meritocracy, few people in the world do and that is a shame.
The whole Labour ethos appears to be about pulling people down to the lowest common denominator, not providing the opportunity for people to pull themselves up. The Labour approach to grammar schools is a perfect demonstration of that.No matter. On the school issue, quite right - a child has little say on where they are sent. The outcome of those decisions however is demonstrably a serious discrimination against those who weren't fortunate enough to have benefited from the enormous discrete advantages of landing a place at one of those schools & especially that one. 19 out of 54 to date.
We do not live in a meritocracy, few people in the world do and that is a shame.
Edited by sidicks on Thursday 27th April 09:45
No less than you would expect from the hypocritical Left, as per Benn and tax avoidance.
But some animals are more equal than others.
Sheets Tabuer said:
Without wanting to go in to any brexit bias I think anyone that campaigns so hard for something and then does a runner deserves a poke in the eye.
Used to like him, now I think he's a prick.
I'm no big fan of his but the referendum campaign was not an induction process to become PM.Used to like him, now I think he's a prick.
menousername said:
Think thats all been exposed now though - does he have any credibility left even as a cunning politician who hides his ambition under a thin veil of foolery
Are their any feasible routes left for his ambition. Without that and without the veil all that is left is the foolery
I believe he hides his foolishness by pretending to be a cunning politician. Are their any feasible routes left for his ambition. Without that and without the veil all that is left is the foolery
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