Combi Drill/Driver
Discussion
It looks like my faithful Makita 12v has come to the end of the line after years of good service.
DeWalt have made a name for themselves since I last bought, should I be looking at them (or others) before I do the loyal thing and stick with Makita?
I had a quick look at Ryobi when I was last in B&Q but they felt nothing like as substantial as the one I've already got so discounting them.
Advice appreciated from those that know!
DeWalt have made a name for themselves since I last bought, should I be looking at them (or others) before I do the loyal thing and stick with Makita?
I had a quick look at Ryobi when I was last in B&Q but they felt nothing like as substantial as the one I've already got so discounting them.
Advice appreciated from those that know!
Just remember that there are multiple 18v drills from companies like Dewalt and Makita. They typically range from around £100 up to £400. Someone saying "I had an 18v Makita and it was crap" or someone else saying "I had an 18v Dewalt and it was great" is of no help to anyone.
If you have (or plan to have) other 18v tools then buy into the best common battery architecture for you. For typical DIY use, a £100 drill and a £50 mains SDS for the big jobs is all you ever need.
If you have (or plan to have) other 18v tools then buy into the best common battery architecture for you. For typical DIY use, a £100 drill and a £50 mains SDS for the big jobs is all you ever need.
Thanks for all the advice.
I've got a big SDS mains drill/breaker plus a decent mains 'ordinary' one. The cordless is for convenience but does get used quite hard so I think the £300/£400 stuff whilst very attractive, is maybe more than I need.
This is the latest version of what I have currently (18v rather than 12v) at a shade over £200 with a couple of batteries at Screwfix so tucked in between budget and Pro levels.
Choice is endless though!
I've got a big SDS mains drill/breaker plus a decent mains 'ordinary' one. The cordless is for convenience but does get used quite hard so I think the £300/£400 stuff whilst very attractive, is maybe more than I need.
This is the latest version of what I have currently (18v rather than 12v) at a shade over £200 with a couple of batteries at Screwfix so tucked in between budget and Pro levels.
Choice is endless though!
tivver500 said:
Keep your eyes open in Lidl... and buy one of their 'Parkside' brand (as they're made by Bosch )
I'm intrigued as to where the suggestion that 'Parkside are made by Bosch' comes from, I've seen it in various places around the web, but unfortunately it's not the case.Parkside is purely a marketing name owned by Lidl, for the UK, the 'local' manufacturer is Einhell UK. Whilst there are other 'local' manufacturers around the world of the Parkside branded product, Bosch is not one of them.
If you scroll to the bottom of this link: Bosch you can see the brands which are part of the Bosch Group such as Skill, Dremel, Rotozip, Freud, but not Parkside or Einhell. None of the companies which are part of the Bosch Group, or Bosch themselves manufacture Parkside products.
There is the possibility that some tools, or even components for both Bosch and Parkside come out of the same factories in China etc. but that's as far as it goes.
I do agree that Parkside are exceptional vale for the money and have a couple myself, I would even prefer to get out the Parkside multitool over the battery Dremel I have for example.
Although on balance I do prefer to buy Bosch as the staff discounts are quite nice
Edited by Ledaig on Friday 28th April 16:52
I don't know how this compares to the model above, but it arrived in my email this afternoon
http://www.tools4trade.co.uk/makita-dhp482rfwj-com...
http://www.tools4trade.co.uk/makita-dhp482rfwj-com...
Ledaig said:
I'm intrigued as to where the suggestion that 'Parkside are made by Bosch' comes from, I've seen it in various places around the web, but unfortunately it's not the case.
Parkside is purely a marketing name owned by Lidl, for the UK, the 'local' manufacturer is Einhell UK. Whilst there are other 'local' manufacturers around the world of the Parkside branded product, Bosch is not one of them.
If you scroll to the bottom of this link: Bosch you can see the brands which are part of the Bosch Group such as Skill, Dremel, Rotozip, Freud, but not Parkside or Einhell. None of the companies which are part of the Bosch Group, or Bosch themselves manufacture Parkside products.
There is the possibility that some tools, or even components for both Bosch and Parkside come out of the same factories in China etc. but that's as far as it goes.
I do agree that Parkside are exceptional vale for the money and have a couple myself, I would even prefer to get out the Parkside multitool over the battery Dremel I have for example.
Although on balance I do prefer to buy Bosch as the staff discounts are quite nice
As a bosch tart, I am jealous of your discount!!Parkside is purely a marketing name owned by Lidl, for the UK, the 'local' manufacturer is Einhell UK. Whilst there are other 'local' manufacturers around the world of the Parkside branded product, Bosch is not one of them.
If you scroll to the bottom of this link: Bosch you can see the brands which are part of the Bosch Group such as Skill, Dremel, Rotozip, Freud, but not Parkside or Einhell. None of the companies which are part of the Bosch Group, or Bosch themselves manufacture Parkside products.
There is the possibility that some tools, or even components for both Bosch and Parkside come out of the same factories in China etc. but that's as far as it goes.
I do agree that Parkside are exceptional vale for the money and have a couple myself, I would even prefer to get out the Parkside multitool over the battery Dremel I have for example.
Although on balance I do prefer to buy Bosch as the staff discounts are quite nice
Edited by Ledaig on Friday 28th April 16:52
OP - Bosch Blue for me. New 12v stuff is replacing the 10.8v stuff (although merely a re-brand!)
Do you need 18v? I went all 14v (panasonic) last time, the latest stuff is much better and the only time i feel the lack 18 probably wouldnt suffice either, and thats trade use every day. And lighter, usefull when youre at the top of a ladder with an sds and a impact gun.
Dewalt/makita seem a bit fashion brands right now, loads of duff batteries and annoyed fanboys, I think makes like hitachi and panasonic are trying harder, although like others say for occasional diy you dont really need a pro brand.
Dewalt/makita seem a bit fashion brands right now, loads of duff batteries and annoyed fanboys, I think makes like hitachi and panasonic are trying harder, although like others say for occasional diy you dont really need a pro brand.
annodomini2 said:
This is what I went for in the end.Picked it up yesterday and for the money, well worth a go. Physically not as big as old one but waltzed through first job of the day popping some holes in steel plate.
Thanks again everyone.
Little Lofty said:
Have a look at Milwaukee, Toolsation stock them.
Had a quick browse and noticed this.http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p69731?searchstr=m...
I want one, don't need one, but just want it.
Im also looking to buy a combi/impact driver combo and wondered what peoples views on these options are?
Started looking at this Bosch kit on screwfix
http://www.screwfix.com/p/bosch-gsb18-gdr18-18v-1-...
then saw this with larger capacity batteries and a hard case
http://www.powertoolworld.co.uk/bosch-gsb-18-2-li-...
which prompted some potential budget creep to this
http://www.powertoolworld.co.uk/bosch-18v-twinpack...
or this
http://www.powertoolworld.co.uk/makita-dlx2131j-18...
So couple of questions, is the mid-range over the base range bosch proffesional worth the extra (my assumption was that the extra torque of the impact driver would be usefull), and the second is Bosch or Makita?
Im only going to be using for DIY but it will include an upcomming fence build (about 60 metres worth), sleeper raised planters anda few other garden bits. Im also sort of the opinion that the higher capacity batteries are expensive to buy in addition and therefore a more expensive option with higher capacity batteries sort of works out cheaper. Especially if Im then to buy a bare circular saw (which is also on the list).
Started looking at this Bosch kit on screwfix
http://www.screwfix.com/p/bosch-gsb18-gdr18-18v-1-...
then saw this with larger capacity batteries and a hard case
http://www.powertoolworld.co.uk/bosch-gsb-18-2-li-...
which prompted some potential budget creep to this
http://www.powertoolworld.co.uk/bosch-18v-twinpack...
or this
http://www.powertoolworld.co.uk/makita-dlx2131j-18...
So couple of questions, is the mid-range over the base range bosch proffesional worth the extra (my assumption was that the extra torque of the impact driver would be usefull), and the second is Bosch or Makita?
Im only going to be using for DIY but it will include an upcomming fence build (about 60 metres worth), sleeper raised planters anda few other garden bits. Im also sort of the opinion that the higher capacity batteries are expensive to buy in addition and therefore a more expensive option with higher capacity batteries sort of works out cheaper. Especially if Im then to buy a bare circular saw (which is also on the list).
With 60m of fence, have you considered the 10.8/12v stuff?
£140 would get you a twin pack of Bosch 12v impact driver/hammer drill kit with 2 batteries. I have been using the drill for about 1 month now and have only got the bit corded drill out once and that was to get through some steel plate.
Cheers,
Rob
£140 would get you a twin pack of Bosch 12v impact driver/hammer drill kit with 2 batteries. I have been using the drill for about 1 month now and have only got the bit corded drill out once and that was to get through some steel plate.
Cheers,
Rob
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