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Goaty Bill 2 said:
I never engaged with you on that subject.
I simply pointed out that your preference for killing some people rather than animals (however it was intended to come across) invalidated your claims to any position of moral superiority.
A highly articulate outburst. I retract my people comment (however it was intended )I simply pointed out that your preference for killing some people rather than animals (however it was intended to come across) invalidated your claims to any position of moral superiority.
Let us engage in fox talk on the fox thread..
Your views on my points above, if you please..
popeyewhite said:
Digby said:
How can nature not take care of itself?
(sigh) Here's an example:Deer: 50% cull necessary to protect countryside
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-2168...
- sigh*?
The deer cull would also provide food.
So, please tell me, why are we so desperate to kill foxes?
Stickyfinger said:
No point talking to a person on the internet who will not even contemplate learning anything....
see ya
He did exactly the same on a cycling thread, and nearly killed that as well. I suspect he likes the sound of his own voice, as there's no logic or reason to anything he writes. He simply repeats the same idea ad nauseam and when challenged rephrases and starts again.see ya
Digby said:
A57 HSV said:
Sadly, there's a lot of people who naively believe that "nature" just takes care of itself .
You will have to explain that one to me. How can nature not take care of itself? The outcome of it doing so, no matter how bizzare to us, would be natures way.Fifty billion foxes all eating each other because everything else was dead would still be natures way.
The only fly in the ointment is us. And our solution, as per usual, is guns (and dressing up like a dick)
You do seem to have a real issue about the clothing that some mounted packs wear. What would be your preferred choice of dress?
Digby said:
Stickyfinger said:
No point talking to a person on the internet who will not even contemplate learning anything....
see ya
Oh, what a surprise. The first hurdle and off you pop...see ya
I was just going to ask why you call them vermin? Has that changed?
"The fox is sometimes referred to as vermin, but it is not, and never has been categorised as such by the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA)"
Happy to be corrected.
ˈvəːmɪn/
noun
wild animals which are believed to be harmful to crops, farm animals, or game, or which carry disease,
popeyewhite said:
Stickyfinger said:
No point talking to a person on the internet who will not even contemplate learning anything....
see ya
He did exactly the same on a cycling thread, and nearly killed that as well. I suspect he likes the sound of his own voice, as there's no logic or reason to anything he writes. He simply repeats the same idea ad nauseam and when challenged rephrases and starts again.see ya
Fox hunting is for feckless coontz. Simple as that. There have been hunts caught out on breeding foxes, to be thrown to their packs to get their dogs hooked on the kill... nature doesn't come into it; not in the slightest. It's the sport side of it and the fact people like to dress up like pansies and flaunt about like silly tarts; all the while; pretending they're protecting farmers stock. I've no problem with culling; there are certain strands of our own species I'd cull, if it were possible... but these prats; half of them surburban, country bumpkin, wannabes can flounce about all they want; doesn't change the majority view on them.
popeyewhite said:
He did exactly the same on a cycling thread, and nearly killed that as well. I suspect he likes the sound of his own voice, as there's no logic or reason to anything he writes. He simply repeats the same idea ad nauseam and when challenged rephrases and starts again.
I suggest people go read it. It was only those so pro-cycling that they refused to listen to anything else who killed it. A bit like some here it would seem. Nothing new.In fact one of the main contributors is still at it and has yet again forced someone who used to defend him to admit defeat.
Usually, once you have said enough to annoy those who refuse to accept anything else or discuss other options, they use tactics such as the Volvo example given above. Things get silly after that so all you can do is repeat things for the benefit of others.
It's probably worth mentioning that Mr fingers seems to have no love for cyclists going by that thread. Much of what I said he feels the same about. You probably should haves picked on a different topic in that regard.
Nice try, though.
Edited by Digby on Thursday 25th May 07:26
A57 HSV said:
vermin
?v??m?n/
noun
wild animals which are believed to be harmful to crops, farm animals, or game, or which carry disease,
All you have done is make everyone aware of why they are not classed as vermin. That can only be due to the fact the problem isn't as bad as many make out. If it were, they would be classed as such. Unless you know more than they do. Good luck convincing me of that.?v??m?n/
noun
wild animals which are believed to be harmful to crops, farm animals, or game, or which carry disease,
I think it would take more than luck to convince you.
That was the dictionary definition of vermin and foxes in some areas can be a threat to farm animals and game.
As I said previously, most farmers I know want a fit, healthy and manageable population of foxes on their land. Hunting with hounds achieved that.
That was the dictionary definition of vermin and foxes in some areas can be a threat to farm animals and game.
As I said previously, most farmers I know want a fit, healthy and manageable population of foxes on their land. Hunting with hounds achieved that.
Stickyfinger said:
Idiots are always blind to obtaining knowledge.....
The problem is, there are 2 sides to this argument and you seem obviously to the fact that your "knowledge" is different from other people's "knowledge". You then start calling people idiots and wonder why some people think you're a t
t. And if you represent the average hunt supporter, you're just reinforcing the stereotype that fox hunters are tts.Calm down and start realising that your "facts" aren't the only facts in this debate and actually you might just possibly be wrong on some of them. Unless you are blind to obtaining knowledge of course...?
Digby said:
I'm only struggling to see how the world will end unless people shoot foxes in the face or dress up like participants in a Broadway show to kill some.
A Broadway show? Eh?Which show?
(I'm assuming there's more to this specific point than having a pop based on how somebody dresses. Say there is.)
wiggy001 said:
The problem is, there are 2 sides to this argument and you seem obviously to the fact that your "knowledge" is different from other people's "knowledge". You then start calling people idiots and wonder why some people think you're a tt. And if you represent the average hunt supporter, you're just reinforcing the stereotype that fox hunters are tts.
Calm down and start realising that your "facts" aren't the only facts in this debate and actually you might just possibly be wrong on some of them. Unless you are blind to obtaining knowledge of course...?
t. And if you represent the average hunt supporter, you're just reinforcing the stereotype that fox hunters are tts.Calm down and start realising that your "facts" aren't the only facts in this debate and actually you might just possibly be wrong on some of them. Unless you are blind to obtaining knowledge of course...?
wiggy001 said:
The problem is, there are 2 sides to this argument and you seem obviously to the fact that your "knowledge" is different from other people's "knowledge". You then start calling people idiots and wonder why some people think you're a tt. And if you represent the average hunt supporter, you're just reinforcing the stereotype that fox hunters are tts.
Calm down and start realising that your "facts" aren't the only facts in this debate and actually you might just possibly be wrong on some of them. Unless you are blind to obtaining knowledge of course...?
Are they, what "wrong facts" are they then ? Please enlighten met. And if you represent the average hunt supporter, you're just reinforcing the stereotype that fox hunters are tts.Calm down and start realising that your "facts" aren't the only facts in this debate and actually you might just possibly be wrong on some of them. Unless you are blind to obtaining knowledge of course...?
A57 HSV said:
As I said previously, most farmers I know want a fit, healthy and manageable population of foxes on their land. Hunting with hounds achieved that.
They want a population? What for?When they decide they have too many, the best way to get rid is to dress up and chase them until exhausted and have them torn to pieces?
What about these types?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/dav...
What do they want? Tell me.
(plenty more examples of this)
What about importing foxes to kill and creating homes for them due to there not being enough to hunt?
That's all about manageable populations, is it?
Time to stop lying to yourself.
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