Angela Rayner skewered by Nick Ferrari
Discussion
Dog Star said:
Ten years ago I worked for several months in my local Jobcentre, which was actually really rather good. I was a special advisor to long term unemployed.
One day I was chatting to a "customer" and he was saying to me that his biggest regret in life was dossing around in school, not doing his homework, thinking it was cool to skive off or not turn up, cheek the teachers etc. I remember him saying "and look at me now; here I am".
What happened to the long term unemployed chap ?One day I was chatting to a "customer" and he was saying to me that his biggest regret in life was dossing around in school, not doing his homework, thinking it was cool to skive off or not turn up, cheek the teachers etc. I remember him saying "and look at me now; here I am".
techiedave said:
Dog Star said:
Ten years ago I worked for several months in my local Jobcentre, which was actually really rather good. I was a special advisor to long term unemployed.
One day I was chatting to a "customer" and he was saying to me that his biggest regret in life was dossing around in school, not doing his homework, thinking it was cool to skive off or not turn up, cheek the teachers etc. I remember him saying "and look at me now; here I am".
What happened to the long term unemployed chap ?One day I was chatting to a "customer" and he was saying to me that his biggest regret in life was dossing around in school, not doing his homework, thinking it was cool to skive off or not turn up, cheek the teachers etc. I remember him saying "and look at me now; here I am".
Dog Star said:
bulldong said:
The problem I have with her is that she almost wears being uneducated as some sort of badge of honour. It isn't actually cool to be uneducated, or think that it is cool to be uneducated when you are an adult. It also isn't a good idea to suggest publicly or to children that you don't need to go to school to get places. It's one of the worst ways you can set your child up for disillusionment later in life when they realise nobody will employ them, or that they could've done better at school. I didn't work hard at school, and I am lucky that I can muster it and eventually came out OK. I will never ever tell that to my kids though. Angela Rayner has actually started interviews with responses like "Well I left school with no GSCEs". It's a joke.
Ten years ago I worked for several months in my local Jobcentre, which was actually really rather good. I was a special advisor to long term unemployed.One day I was chatting to a "customer" and he was saying to me that his biggest regret in life was dossing around in school, not doing his homework, thinking it was cool to skive off or not turn up, cheek the teachers etc. I remember him saying "and look at me now; here I am".
Now the entrepreneurs and self made millionaires, they're the bad guys because they're not paying enough to the others. Worst of all though in their eyes the working-class done well who vote Conservative. 'Thatchers chancers' I heard those who rode the 80s boom described as,
techiedave said:
Dog Star said:
Ten years ago I worked for several months in my local Jobcentre, which was actually really rather good. I was a special advisor to long term unemployed.
One day I was chatting to a "customer" and he was saying to me that his biggest regret in life was dossing around in school, not doing his homework, thinking it was cool to skive off or not turn up, cheek the teachers etc. I remember him saying "and look at me now; here I am".
What happened to the long term unemployed chap ?One day I was chatting to a "customer" and he was saying to me that his biggest regret in life was dossing around in school, not doing his homework, thinking it was cool to skive off or not turn up, cheek the teachers etc. I remember him saying "and look at me now; here I am".
I have no issue at all with the chap - he was genuinely full of regret about the lost opportunities in his life and blamed nobody buy himself. His attitude and outlook was certainly not "council". I guess he'd have given anything for a trip in a time machine to give his younger self a bit of sage advice; at the time he just thought he was being "cool" and a bit of a rebel.
She has just arrived on the Victoria Derbyshire BBC 2 show thing - late and wearing boots
Its a vox pop bunch of undecided voters being pitched to by various politicians. In her pitch she just claimed that in her constituency she has kids rummaging through bins to get their dinners
Its a vox pop bunch of undecided voters being pitched to by various politicians. In her pitch she just claimed that in her constituency she has kids rummaging through bins to get their dinners
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 9th December 10:42
techiedave said:
She has just arrived on the Victoria Derbyshire BBC 2 show thing - late and wearing boots
Its a vox pop bunch of undecided voters being pitched to by various politicians. In her pitch she just claimed that in her constituency she has kids rummaging through bins to get their dinners
My mate used to do that with the out of date stuff M&S disposed of, while his flat was paid for by the council. Its a vox pop bunch of undecided voters being pitched to by various politicians. In her pitch she just claimed that in her constituency she has kids rummaging through bins to get their dinners
Edited by techiedave on Monday 9th December 10:42
More cash for the unemployed = more unemployed.
What could go wrong?
techiedave said:
She has just arrived on the Victoria Derbyshire BBC 2 show thing - late and wearing boots
Its a vox pop bunch of undecided voters being pitched to by various politicians. In her pitch she just claimed that in her constituency she has kids rummaging through bins to get their dinners
My mother is extremely left wing; she used to be a head teacher in a rough area of Portsmouth. Without fail, the instances of hungry / dirty / poorly clothed children that she dealt with were down to parental neglect, not poverty. Alcoholic single parents, drug users, chaotic families - those were the reasons for the sort of things Angela "no GCSE" Rayner describes. But according to Angela, it's all the fault of the Nasty Tories..............Its a vox pop bunch of undecided voters being pitched to by various politicians. In her pitch she just claimed that in her constituency she has kids rummaging through bins to get their dinners
Edited by techiedave on Monday 9th December 10:42
Brave Fart said:
techiedave said:
She has just arrived on the Victoria Derbyshire BBC 2 show thing - late and wearing boots
Its a vox pop bunch of undecided voters being pitched to by various politicians. In her pitch she just claimed that in her constituency she has kids rummaging through bins to get their dinners
My mother is extremely left wing; she used to be a head teacher in a rough area of Portsmouth. Without fail, the instances of hungry / dirty / poorly clothed children that she dealt with were down to parental neglect, not poverty. Alcoholic single parents, drug users, chaotic families - those were the reasons for the sort of things Angela "no GCSE" Rayner describes. but according to her, it's all the fault of the Nasty Tories..............Its a vox pop bunch of undecided voters being pitched to by various politicians. In her pitch she just claimed that in her constituency she has kids rummaging through bins to get their dinners
Edited by techiedave on Monday 9th December 10:42
This socialism removes all agency from the individual and simply leaves us with slightly better off scumbags.
R Mutt said:
Brave Fart said:
techiedave said:
She has just arrived on the Victoria Derbyshire BBC 2 show thing - late and wearing boots
Its a vox pop bunch of undecided voters being pitched to by various politicians. In her pitch she just claimed that in her constituency she has kids rummaging through bins to get their dinners
My mother is extremely left wing; she used to be a head teacher in a rough area of Portsmouth. Without fail, the instances of hungry / dirty / poorly clothed children that she dealt with were down to parental neglect, not poverty. Alcoholic single parents, drug users, chaotic families - those were the reasons for the sort of things Angela "no GCSE" Rayner describes. but according to her, it's all the fault of the Nasty Tories..............Its a vox pop bunch of undecided voters being pitched to by various politicians. In her pitch she just claimed that in her constituency she has kids rummaging through bins to get their dinners
Edited by techiedave on Monday 9th December 10:42
This socialism removes all agency from the individual and simply leaves us with slightly better off scumbags.
The interviewer asked if he was taking the p*ss. but he was absolutely serious. For some, strolling down to the corner shop to get their fags, and some scratch cards on the way to the pub is considered to be hard work in their book.
If a person is strong, intelligent, or both, they will be able to get on, if they are thick, lazy, or both and want everything handed to them on a plate, they will not.
Greg_D said:
With the recent history of getting pulled up on basic facts, you'd think there would be some sort of memo going around labour HQ to actually write down all variations of the key numbers and how it was going to be funded if you are going on LBC, wouldn't you....
it's all a function of labour operating in some sort of a weird echo chamber, you see it with corbyn only standing in front of cheering crowds of acolytes and not a mixed bunch of general voters, he's just not interested in hearing dissenting voices.
their ideologically driven agenda is simply not thought through or costed on any level, it's terrifying to think that anyone thinks that they are fit for public office
And they are giving liar Johnson sleepless nights.it's all a function of labour operating in some sort of a weird echo chamber, you see it with corbyn only standing in front of cheering crowds of acolytes and not a mixed bunch of general voters, he's just not interested in hearing dissenting voices.
their ideologically driven agenda is simply not thought through or costed on any level, it's terrifying to think that anyone thinks that they are fit for public office
Shows the sorry state of our leaders of all flavours ..
techiedave said:
She has just arrived on the Victoria Derbyshire BBC 2 show thing - late and wearing boots
Its a vox pop bunch of undecided voters being pitched to by various politicians. In her pitch she just claimed that in her constituency she has kids rummaging through bins to get their dinners
Missed this. Its a vox pop bunch of undecided voters being pitched to by various politicians. In her pitch she just claimed that in her constituency she has kids rummaging through bins to get their dinners
Edited by techiedave on Monday 9th December 10:42
What were the boots like? Military style perhaps red army or maybe more 70s stassi interrogator chic?
Pan Pan Pan said:
I would just ask, Why the long face Angela?
Being serious for a bit.I suspect she is genuinely and generally tired. She is being wheeled out everywhere doing a lot of media.
Her "workload" is well up on last election. As I previously mentioned I believe this is because of the sidelining of other shadow cabinet members. Add in Tom Watson's vanishing act and it's quite a gap to fill.
The obvious missing in action are Diane Abbott and Emily Thornberry but in the past Sharmishta Chakrabarti was used a lot more
But just where s Cat Smith ? She is described on the Labour pages as
"Shadow Minister for Voter Engagement and Youth Affairs. She is passionate about engaging young people in politics"
So why wasn't she representing Labour on that under 30s show ?. She is completely absent from just about anything
Sue Hayman ? she is described as "Shadow Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs" err so why doesn't she feature that much with anything green ?
John Healey ? Shadow Housing Minister
I am not a fan of hers at all and think she is pretty awful but the absolute lack of some other shadow cabinet ministers is blatantly obvious.
She (Crayons) seems quite irritable and just tired. Funnily enough my wife has commentated that she does look drawn and may be losing weight.
She may well be choosing to diet but that in itself can make you irritable
I am not sticking up for her just saying what I feel
I've thought she was rude and thick ever since I first saw her. She's no different in this election campaign.
But you're right that not many Labour shadow cabinet members have featured prominently. Very little sign of Kier Starmer, Dawn Butler or Ian Lavery, for example. Labour HQ have obviously decided to keep pushing Jeremy forward. It's working really well, isn't it?
But you're right that not many Labour shadow cabinet members have featured prominently. Very little sign of Kier Starmer, Dawn Butler or Ian Lavery, for example. Labour HQ have obviously decided to keep pushing Jeremy forward. It's working really well, isn't it?
Brave Fart said:
I've thought she was rude and thick ever since I first saw her. She's no different in this election campaign.
But you're right that not many Labour shadow cabinet members have featured prominently. Very little sign of Kier Starmer, Dawn Butler or Ian Lavery, for example. Labour HQ have obviously decided to keep pushing Jeremy forward. It's working really well, isn't it?
Dawn Butler is a very good point My wife refers to her as Churchill as in the nodding head dog. She was constantly seen behind and to the left of Corbyn whenever he was in Parliament. Yet she has vanished tooBut you're right that not many Labour shadow cabinet members have featured prominently. Very little sign of Kier Starmer, Dawn Butler or Ian Lavery, for example. Labour HQ have obviously decided to keep pushing Jeremy forward. It's working really well, isn't it?
Someone else said that they thought Abbott and Thornberry were absent due to Brexit views but I always thought Dawn Butler was a major Corbynista
Good shout on the Butler.
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