Angela Rayner skewered by Nick Ferrari

[Burwood]

techiedave said:

Brave Fart said:

I've thought she was rude and thick ever since I first saw her. She's no different in this election campaign.

But you're right that not many Labour shadow cabinet members have featured prominently. Very little sign of Kier Starmer, Dawn Butler or Ian Lavery, for example. Labour HQ have obviously decided to keep pushing Jeremy forward. It's working really well, isn't it?

Dawn Butler is a very good point My wife refers to her as Churchill as in the nodding head dog. She was constantly seen behind and to the left of Corbyn whenever he was in Parliament. Yet she has vanished too
Someone else said that they thought Abbott and Thornberry were absent due to Brexit views but I always thought Dawn Butler was a major Corbynista
Good shout on the Butler.

Kier Starmer was sent to hide somewhere because his views on Brexit are the polar opposite to Labour policy, whatever their policy is.

[PositronicRay]

Burwood said:

techiedave said:

Brave Fart said:

I've thought she was rude and thick ever since I first saw her. She's no different in this election campaign.

But you're right that not many Labour shadow cabinet members have featured prominently. Very little sign of Kier Starmer, Dawn Butler or Ian Lavery, for example. Labour HQ have obviously decided to keep pushing Jeremy forward. It's working really well, isn't it?

Dawn Butler is a very good point My wife refers to her as Churchill as in the nodding head dog. She was constantly seen behind and to the left of Corbyn whenever he was in Parliament. Yet she has vanished too
Someone else said that they thought Abbott and Thornberry were absent due to Brexit views but I always thought Dawn Butler was a major Corbynista
Good shout on the Butler.

Kier Starmer was sent to hide somewhere because his views on Brexit are the polar opposite to Labour policy, whatever their policy is.

We're not seeing much of the Conservative front bench either.

Brand Boris v brand Jeremy.

[Burwood]

PositronicRay said:

Burwood said:

techiedave said:

Brave Fart said:

I've thought she was rude and thick ever since I first saw her. She's no different in this election campaign.

But you're right that not many Labour shadow cabinet members have featured prominently. Very little sign of Kier Starmer, Dawn Butler or Ian Lavery, for example. Labour HQ have obviously decided to keep pushing Jeremy forward. It's working really well, isn't it?

Dawn Butler is a very good point My wife refers to her as Churchill as in the nodding head dog. She was constantly seen behind and to the left of Corbyn whenever he was in Parliament. Yet she has vanished too
Someone else said that they thought Abbott and Thornberry were absent due to Brexit views but I always thought Dawn Butler was a major Corbynista
Good shout on the Butler.

Kier Starmer was sent to hide somewhere because his views on Brexit are the polar opposite to Labour policy, whatever their policy is.

We're not seeing much of the Conservative front bench either.

Brand Boris v brand Jeremy.

Sure. I'm not scoffing at the decision. It's smart. For the Conservatives it has very much been a plan to ride out the campaign without saying anything that could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[hidetheelephants]

Greg_D said:

All the sensible ones are keeping their heads down so if JC gets trounced and subsequently chucked aside then they haven’t got momentum on their hands when the party rebuilds...

Hopefully!!!

Momentum are dug into the apparatus of the labour party, it wouldn't matter if Corbyn and McDonnell resign on Friday as Momentum will control who gets the nod.

[Pan Pan Pan]

techiedave said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

I would just ask, Why the long face Angela?

Being serious for a bit.

I suspect she is genuinely and generally tired. She is being wheeled out everywhere doing a lot of media.
Her "workload" is well up on last election. As I previously mentioned I believe this is because of the sidelining of other shadow cabinet members. Add in Tom Watson's vanishing act and it's quite a gap to fill.
The obvious missing in action are Diane Abbott and Emily Thornberry but in the past Sharmishta Chakrabarti was used a lot more
But just where s Cat Smith ? She is described on the Labour pages as
"Shadow Minister for Voter Engagement and Youth Affairs. She is passionate about engaging young people in politics"
So why wasn't she representing Labour on that under 30s show ?. She is completely absent from just about anything
Sue Hayman ? she is described as "Shadow Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs" err so why doesn't she feature that much with anything green ?
John Healey ? Shadow Housing Minister


I am not a fan of hers at all and think she is pretty awful but the absolute lack of some other shadow cabinet ministers is blatantly obvious.
She (Crayons) seems quite irritable and just tired. Funnily enough my wife has commentated that she does look drawn and may be losing weight.
She may well be choosing to diet but that in itself can make you irritable

I am not sticking up for her just saying what I feel

Sorry Dave, all your points are valid, and sincere, but I was just having a little joke on the fact that she has got a rather long horsey type face! Hence the behind my post.

[Zetec-S]

hidetheelephants said:

Greg_D said:

All the sensible ones are keeping their heads down so if JC gets trounced and subsequently chucked aside then they haven’t got momentum on their hands when the party rebuilds...

Hopefully!!!

Momentum are dug into the apparatus of the labour party, it wouldn't matter if Corbyn and McDonnell resign on Friday as Momentum will control who gets the nod.

I suspect if Labour do lose outright then the party will lurch even further to the left, probably with McDonnell as the new figurehead?

[Pan Pan Pan]

Zetec-S said:

hidetheelephants said:

Greg_D said:

All the sensible ones are keeping their heads down so if JC gets trounced and subsequently chucked aside then they haven’t got momentum on their hands when the party rebuilds...

Hopefully!!!

Momentum are dug into the apparatus of the labour party, it wouldn't matter if Corbyn and McDonnell resign on Friday as Momentum will control who gets the nod.

I suspect if Labour do lose outright then the party will lurch even further to the left, probably with McDonnell as the new figurehead?

This would indeed be excellent as it would make them even more unelectable.
In an essentially moderate country like the UK which does not seem to like extremes on either the left, or right. Extremes don't really do anyone any good. (But I guess it does depend on what some people see as an extreme!)

[vaud]

Pan Pan Pan said:

In an essentially moderate country like the UK which does not seem to like extremes on either the left, or right. Extremes don't really do anyone any good. (But I guess it does depend on what some people see as an extreme!)

Indeed, we are generally a centrist country with some minor degrees of swing as people tire of multi term governments. There isn't that much between Major, New Labour, Lib-Con coalition or the May govt. Aside from New Labour getting carried away with spend, they were really Thatcher-lite.

[anonymous-user]

Pan Pan Pan said:

Sorry Dave, all your points are valid, and sincere, but I was just having a little joke on the fact that she has got a rather long horsey type face! Hence the behind my post.

I realised you were being jokey.
She used to look a bit fuller faced more rounded.

[rev-erend]

Any chance of Tom Watson making a Labour leadership bid after the election defeat?

We always need decent opposition to keep any government honest.

[amusingduck]

rev-erend said:

Any chance of Tom Watson making a Labour leadership bid after the election defeat?

We always need decent opposition to keep any government honest.

Did you miss the whole Carl Beech saga?

[anonymous-user]

amusingduck said:

rev-erend said:

Any chance of Tom Watson making a Labour leadership bid after the election defeat?

We always need decent opposition to keep any government honest.

Did you miss the whole Carl Beech saga?

Yeh, what?! Tom Watson as Labour Party leader after Carl Beech saga fking lol.

[anonymous-user]

amusingduck said:

Did you miss the whole Carl Beech saga?

This in buckets

The way Tom Watson behaved was pretty crappy IMHO
It used to surprise me that people thought he was some kind of conciliatory type figure. Far as I could tell he was pretty unpleasant and wouldn't have been out of place in a mid 80s Labour Party.

[Brave Fart]

I imagine any Labour would-be leader is keeping quiet. If Labour do well, they are still in post. Badly, and "well, it wasn't my fault....."

Likely "not my fault" candidates? Kier Starmer, Barry Gardiner, Laura Pidcock.

[anonymous-user]

Brave Fart said:

I imagine any Labour would-be leader is keeping quiet. If Labour do well, they are still in post. Badly, and "well, it wasn't my fault....."

Likely "not my fault" candidates? Kier Starmer, Barry Gardiner, Laura Pidcock.

Barry Gardiner - please no just no

[Brave Fart]

techiedave said:

Brave Fart said:

I imagine any Labour would-be leader is keeping quiet. If Labour do well, they are still in post. Badly, and "well, it wasn't my fault....."

Likely "not my fault" candidates? Kier Starmer, Barry Gardiner, Laura Pidcock.

Barry Gardiner - please no just no

Ah, but Dave, do you not............agree..............that a man who...............speaks slooooooooooowly and leaves long...............pauses between words is.............a man of gravitas, of deep thoughts and of.................intelligence?

[gizlaroc]

Brave Fart said:

Ah, but Dave, do you not............agree..............that a man who...............speaks slooooooooooowly and leaves long...............pauses between words is.............a man of gravitas, of deep thoughts and of.................intelligence?

You talking about Abbott again?

[anonymous-user]

techiedave said:

Brave Fart said:

I imagine any Labour would-be leader is keeping quiet. If Labour do well, they are still in post. Badly, and "well, it wasn't my fault....."

Likely "not my fault" candidates? Kier Starmer, Barry Gardiner, Laura Pidcock.

Barry Gardiner - please no just no

Even though his pronunciation makes my flesh crawl, it would be funny to hwatch him attempt to lead (and that's not a typo).

He would be crucified by his own party, like a supply teacher who is given the unruliest class to control.

[Brave Fart]

DrSteveBrule said:

techiedave said:

Brave Fart said:

I imagine any Labour would-be leader is keeping quiet. If Labour do well, they are still in post. Badly, and "well, it wasn't my fault....."

Likely "not my fault" candidates? Kier Starmer, Barry Gardiner, Laura Pidcock.

Barry Gardiner - please no just no

Even though his pronunciation makes my flesh crawl, it would be funny to hwatch him attempt to lead (and that's not a typo).

He would be crucified by his own party, like a supply teacher who is given the unruliest class to control.

Chortle, Barry Gardiner = supply teacher, I like that, and will use it when needed. Thank you!

[Terminator X]

boyse7en said:

To be fair, it's not much worse than TM's pledge of reducing immigration to "the tens of thousands" in the vague hope that mouth-breathers will only hear the "10,000" bit and not realise that she actually means just than less than 100,000.

O/T but FYI:

"In the year ending June 2019, long-term international migration continued to add to the UK population, as an estimated 212,000 more people moved to the UK with an intention to stay for 12 months or more than left the UK (net migration). Over the year, 609,000 people moved to the UK (immigration) and 397,000 people left the UK (emigration)."

TX.