Moped muggers and police bike chase laws

[ChemicalChaos]

Apologies in advance as this article is by Katie Hopkins, for the Daily Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4500202/KA...

Anyway, London residents - is this as much of an epidemic as is being made out?

Isn't it about time something was done about the police laws stopping them chasing bikes? What not have police bikes to chase these scum if cars are too unwieldy?
Surely if you get injured running from the police, it's YOUR fault for being a criminal in the first place?

[Derek Smith]

Is that the same Hopkins who criticised the parents of the child drowned in the amusement park, suggesting that they should not have taken their child there?

The woman is on the DM site for the sole reason of clickbait. It works, as evidenced by this thread.

[motco]

Derek Smith said:

Is that the same Hopkins who criticised the parents of the child drowned in the amusement park, suggesting that they should not have taken their child there?

The woman is on the DM site for the sole reason of clickbait. It works, as evidenced by this thread.

The item I saw by Ms Hopkins regarding the recent death in the watersplash ride criticised the school rather than the parents. Her point, it seemed, was that an amusement park visit cannot be categorised as educational. Fair comment in general if rather poorly timed in this case.

[Derek Smith]

motco said:

The item I saw by Ms Hopkins regarding the recent death in the watersplash ride criticised the school rather than the parents. Her point, it seemed, was that an amusement park visit cannot be categorised as educational. Fair comment in general if rather poorly timed in this case.

I think the poor timing was the main purpose.

[rscott]

motco said:

Derek Smith said:

Is that the same Hopkins who criticised the parents of the child drowned in the amusement park, suggesting that they should not have taken their child there?

The woman is on the DM site for the sole reason of clickbait. It works, as evidenced by this thread.

The item I saw by Ms Hopkins regarding the recent death in the watersplash ride criticised the school rather than the parents. Her point, it seemed, was that an amusement park visit cannot be categorised as educational. Fair comment in general if rather poorly timed in this case.

School trips to amusement parks are nothing new though - I went to Alton Towers with our school back in the mid 1980s.

[rscott]

Funkycoldribena said:

rscott said:

School trips to amusement parks are nothing new though - I went to Alton Towers with our school back in the mid 1980s.

I don't think you were fined for your kids being off school back then though,or at least there wasn't such a fuss over it.

How is that relevant in any way to my comment? The school visit to Alton Towers was exactly that - an organised school trip in term time, just like the day trip to France, biology field trip to the coast (studying plant diversity & erosion), etc.

[TooMany2cvs]

The loathsome Hopkins said:

Until we stop threatening police with prosecution for simply trying to do their job...

Police today, but anybody else think she's putting the groundwork in place to set herself up as some kind of "freedom of the press" martyr? "You can't possibly prosecute me, I'm simply doing my job". (fk it, I'll risk invoking Godwin, and suggest there's a vague hint of Nuremberg...)

She's already had one close call from prosecution for inciting racial hatred, and is being investigated for another similar incident at the moment. Then there was the libel case. At least it makes a change from her berating the Police...

[Lance Catamaran]

TooMany2cvs said:

The loathsome Hopkins said:

Until we stop threatening police with prosecution for simply trying to do their job...

Police today, but anybody else think she's putting the groundwork in place to set herself up as some kind of "freedom of the press" martyr? "You can't possibly prosecute me, I'm simply doing my job". (fk it, I'll risk invoking Godwin, and suggest there's a vague hint of Nuremberg...)

She's already had one close call from prosecution for inciting racial hatred, and is being investigated for another similar incident at the moment. Then there was the libel case. At least it makes a change from her berating the Police...

There is a legitimate point in there though - we have a class of criminal who is essentially immune from prosecution. Same with the scrotes around here who ride around on pavements with no numberplates because they know the police would never give chase.

[Tryke3]

motco said:

The item I saw by Ms Hopkins regarding the recent death in the watersplash ride criticised the school rather than the parents. Her point, it seemed, was that an amusement park visit cannot be categorised as educational. Fair comment in general if rather poorly timed in this case.

Think you should replace the the Ms with stupid

Yes moped gangs are a massive problem, even attacking police. There are videos going round on what's app of bikers doing burnouts on traffic police bumpers

Thank Ms May for that

[TooMany2cvs]

Lance Catamaran said:

There is a legitimate point in there though - we have a class of criminal who is essentially immune from prosecution.

No, not at all. It's just that the risk in trying to apprehend them is very, very high - both for them, and for others around. Basic common sense to mitigate that risk, especially when it's a relatively minor crime.

[rscott]

Funkycoldribena said:

rscott said:

How is that relevant in any way to my comment? The school visit to Alton Towers was exactly that - an organised school trip in term time, just like the day trip to France, biology field trip to the coast (studying plant diversity & erosion), etc.

How is any of it relevant to mopeds??
You seem to have this constant problem with putting two and two together, I don't know if its an act or deliberate.

It was in response to the mention of her complaining about the school trip to Drayton Manor Park. A comment on the accuracy of her reporting.

Far more relevant than your relentless trolling of threads on here. Not sure I've ever seen you actually add to a debate.

[Lance Catamaran]

TooMany2cvs said:

Lance Catamaran said:

There is a legitimate point in there though - we have a class of criminal who is essentially immune from prosecution.

No, not at all. It's just that the risk in trying to apprehend them is very, very high - both for them, and for others around. Basic common sense to mitigate that risk, especially when it's a relatively minor crime.

So we shouldn't bother at all then?

[motco]

Tryke3 said:

motco said:

The item I saw by Ms Hopkins regarding the recent death in the watersplash ride criticised the school rather than the parents. Her point, it seemed, was that an amusement park visit cannot be categorised as educational. Fair comment in general if rather poorly timed in this case.

Think you should replace the the Ms with stupid

Yes moped gangs are a massive problem, even attacking police. There are videos going round on what's app of bikers doing burnouts on traffic police bumpers

Thank Ms May for that

[rscott]

Funkycoldribena said:

rscott said:

It was in response to the mention of her complaining about the school trip to Drayton Manor Park. A comment on the accuracy of her reporting.

Far more relevant than your relentless trolling of threads on here. Not sure I've ever seen you actually add to a debate.

So if I don't agree with your bks, its trolling?
Methinks you have too high an opinion of yourself.
Its bloody hardwork having to explain every little thing to you anyway.

Not sure I've ever seen you explain anything to anyone. You just arrive with your thread disrupting posts.

Oh and what's bks about my posting a factual contradiction of her comment on school visits?

[Magic919]

OP is a bit late to the party, but about 11,000 incidents a year. Motorbike theft and mobile phone theft seem to be the most common.

[TooMany2cvs]

Lance Catamaran said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Lance Catamaran said:

There is a legitimate point in there though - we have a class of criminal who is essentially immune from prosecution.

No, not at all. It's just that the risk in trying to apprehend them is very, very high - both for them, and for others around. Basic common sense to mitigate that risk, especially when it's a relatively minor crime.

So we shouldn't bother at all then?

Now where did anybody say that...?

[Lance Catamaran]

TooMany2cvs said:

Lance Catamaran said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Lance Catamaran said:

There is a legitimate point in there though - we have a class of criminal who is essentially immune from prosecution.

No, not at all. It's just that the risk in trying to apprehend them is very, very high - both for them, and for others around. Basic common sense to mitigate that risk, especially when it's a relatively minor crime.

So we shouldn't bother at all then?

Now where did anybody say that...?

That's how your post reads

[TooMany2cvs]

Lance Catamaran said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Lance Catamaran said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Lance Catamaran said:

There is a legitimate point in there though - we have a class of criminal who is essentially immune from prosecution.

No, not at all. It's just that the risk in trying to apprehend them is very, very high - both for them, and for others around. Basic common sense to mitigate that risk, especially when it's a relatively minor crime.

So we shouldn't bother at all then?

Now where did anybody say that...?

That's how your post reads

You may have inferred that from it, but I certainly wasn't implying it.

Getting away from the tabloid bks, here's the reality:
https://www.app.college.police.uk/app-content/road...

Not quite so simple, is it?

[anonymous-user]

How times have changed..
Back in the 70s I saw a policeman on BMW motorbike, alongside stolen moped at 30 odd mph, policeman kicking him until he fell off!
Happy days

[Pothole]

Tryke3 said:

motco said:

The item I saw by Ms Hopkins regarding the recent death in the watersplash ride criticised the school rather than the parents. Her point, it seemed, was that an amusement park visit cannot be categorised as educational. Fair comment in general if rather poorly timed in this case.

Think you should replace the the Ms with stupid

Yes moped gangs are a massive problem, even attacking police. There are videos going round on what's app of bikers doing burnouts on traffic police bumpers

Thank Ms May for that

Please choose a different noun. These are not bikers, they are nasty thieves who happen to use PTWs to steal from bikers and other innocent PTW users.

While I have no love for La May's assault on front line policing I haven't seen any information that this particular SOP is a government directive.