The Gender Non-binary debate.

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BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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“School children will be taught that "all genders" can have periods in new sex education lessons, in a victory for transgender rights campaigners.

The advice to teachers was approved by Brighton & Hove City Council as they try to tackle stigma around menstruation.

The new advice follows a council report which said: "Trans boys and men and non-binary people may have periods", adding that "menstruation must be inclusive of all genders"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/16/boys-c...

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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BlackLabel said:
“School children will be taught that "all genders" can have periods in new sex education lessons, in a victory for transgender rights campaigners.

The advice to teachers was approved by Brighton & Hove City Council as they try to tackle stigma around menstruation.

The new advice follows a council report which said: "Trans boys and men and non-binary people may have periods", adding that "menstruation must be inclusive of all genders"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/16/boys-c...
rofl

You can't beat a well-rounded education.

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

136 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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BlackLabel said:
Brighton & Hove City Council
Tells you all you need to know.


Bullett

10,886 posts

184 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Is it time to post up the Life of Brian?

kowalski655

14,639 posts

143 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Penelope Stopit said:
Noodle1982 said:
Apparently the term vagina isn't gender inclusive so what better term to use than 'front hole'

http://caldronpool.com/healthline-says-using-the-m...
I have just tested this out

I asked if I could rub my genitals against my partners front hole....I now have two black eyes and a baseball bat stuck up my rear hole

Holy st
How can you distinguish THIS front hole from the other front holes:nostrils & mouth?
Upper,middle,and lower front holes? Could be awkward describing a heavy bleed without clarification.
Does the belly button count as a hole(albeit a shallow one)?And what if you're an "outtie"? Outist?

If they want to change medical terminology, may I suggest they use an old one...."Idiot"! smile

Clockwork Cupcake

74,539 posts

272 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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anonymous said:
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Sensationalist nonsense that does more harm than good. It's like stories of Christmas being renamed "Winterval" and the like. It just exists to get Daily Mail readers hot under the collar and Gammons something to get righteously indignant about.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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helping to reduce stigma over menstruation is a good idea, some of the language used in the article seems..silly. But then it's a newspaper, and trust in polls and papers is in short supply.
Seems a waste of money to put sanitary pad bins in boys changing rooms, the uniform thing seems like a good idea, learning about bodies is a good idea. Not keen on the harassment bit...it really depends where the rule slides. It's be wrong for a teacher to bully a kid, but then we can't have kids dictating terms to teachers either...as usual, common sense in the moment would be the best indicator.

Edited by Halb on Monday 17th December 11:22

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

242 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Sensationalist nonsense that does more harm than good. It's like stories of Christmas being renamed "Winterval" and the like. It just exists to get Daily Mail readers hot under the collar and Gammons something to get righteously indignant about.
Well, Daily Mail readers who have inadvertently picked up the Telegraph.


Smiler.

11,752 posts

230 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Well, one can't have menstruation, without men.

So technically...

Noodle1982

2,103 posts

106 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Sensationalist nonsense that does more harm than good. It's like stories of Christmas being renamed "Winterval" and the like. It just exists to get Daily Mail readers hot under the collar and Gammons something to get righteously indignant about.
Is it sensationalist nonsense if the reported incidents are actually true?

Take the Manchester Elementary school in Nebraska where the principal emailed out a list to the teachers listing all things which will be banned which include candy canes because they are an upside down J and Jesus starts with a J.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/candy-can-ban-sc...

I'm pretty sure upsetting daily mail readers was the last thing on the principle's mind when she was coming up with her banned Xmas items.



_dobbo_

14,376 posts

248 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Noodle1982 said:
I'm pretty sure upsetting daily mail readers was the last thing on the principle's mind when she was coming up with her banned Xmas items.
Probably not given it happened in America, where even the mighty reach of the Daily Mail might be stretched.

Did you even read the link you posted? Cooler minds prevailed. Don't let that stop you frothing about some non event that happened 4000 miles away.




Tankrizzo

7,268 posts

193 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Justayellowbadge said:
Well, Daily Mail readers who have inadvertently picked up the Telegraph.
Or the Times, or the Evening Standard, or the Mirror, or the Metro....all reporting the same story.


Noodle1982

2,103 posts

106 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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A fella with over 30years experience of martial arts/fighting and a clinical psychologist discuss trans people competing in MMA

https://youtu.be/RsSIEmfNVeA

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Noodle1982 said:
A fella with over 30years experience of martial arts/fighting and a clinical psychologist discuss trans people competing in MMA

https://youtu.be/RsSIEmfNVeA
The most pertinent comment in that clip which applies to so much of this stuff - 'it's just preposterous that we even have to have the discussion, it's so absolutely ridiculous".

Clockwork Cupcake

74,539 posts

272 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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So, anyway, who is having gammon this Winterval?

Noodle1982

2,103 posts

106 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
So, anyway, who is having gammon this Winterval?
Quorn roast for me. Undecided on whether to go for the beef or chicken flavoured. May live dangerously and have both!

br d

8,400 posts

226 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Noodle1982 said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
So, anyway, who is having gammon this Winterval?
Quorn roast for me. Undecided on whether to go for the beef or chicken flavoured. May live dangerously and have both!
Love those. For years it was just veggies for winterval but now I have something to pour my 'no fluffy animals were hurt making this gravy' gravy on. I think I must have the beef one as chicken quorn is pretty bland.

Oh, and in keeping with the thread, I might eat winterval dinner in a boob tube and tights.
It would not be a pretty sight!

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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BlackLabel said:
“School children will be taught that "all genders" can have periods in new sex education lessons, in a victory for transgender rights campaigners.

The advice to teachers was approved by Brighton & Hove City Council as they try to tackle stigma around menstruation.

The new advice follows a council report which said: "Trans boys and men and non-binary people may have periods", adding that "menstruation must be inclusive of all genders"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/16/boys-c...
It's this form of horsest which gets in the way of genuine debate & progress on issues.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,539 posts

272 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Rovinghawk said:
It's this form of horsest which gets in the way of genuine debate & progress on issues.
Well, quite. yes

gregs656

10,877 posts

181 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Rovinghawk said:
It's this form of horsest which gets in the way of genuine debate & progress on issues.
Indeed.