The Gender Non-binary debate.

[gregs656]

Mr2Mike said:

They may very well be a mental cause, it's not been proven conclusively one way or the other. Trans people suffer from other mental health issues significantly more than normal people (you'd probably prefer I change normal to "cis gender", but it's just plain normal).

We’re all impressed at how right on you’re being. Good job.

To the rest of it - we’ve been over it all recently - my advice is still go and listen to stories of trans people and maybe you will start thinking about it from a different point of view.

[Mothersruin]

This is why 'normal' people get fked off when they're preached to by others who deem them to be behind the times, if not called outright phobic etc...

People take time to accept and embrace things, ramming it down their throats often causing a push back rather than open arms. That said, how the liberals can see how the average Joe does stuff from the highest of horses is a mystery to me.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Don't pretend that you don't know what's being implied by the use of the word 'normal'.

[southendpier]

Here is my car, my phone and my TV
I've got it all, but you can see through me
But am I here? It's kind of hard to tell
I do a good impression of myself
But what's normal now anyhow?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an37Cj2uifQ

Edited by southendpier on Tuesday 18th December 10:40

[Rovinghawk]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Don't pretend that you don't know what's being implied by the use of the word 'normal'.

That which is most common?

I'd be equally happy with the term 'natural'- the implication being either what happens in nature or as one is born.

[_dobbo_]

What is the antonym of "normal"?

[Halb]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Don't pretend that you don't know what's being implied by the use of the word 'normal'.

'Usual' a more apt term?

[Justayellowbadge]

Rovinghawk said:

That which is most common?

I'd be equally happy with the term 'natural'- the implication being either what happens in nature or as one is born.

So anything else would, by definition, be 'unnatural'.

I can't see anyone finding that offensive.

[amusingduck]

_dobbo_ said:

What is the antonym of "normal"?

abnormal
different
disorderly
extraordinary
irregular
rare
uncommon
untraditional
unusual
exceptional
extreme
eccentric
insane
irrational
odd
strange
unbalanced
unconventional

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Justayellowbadge said:

So anything else would, by definition, be 'unnatural'.

I can't see anyone finding that offensive.

[Rovinghawk]

Justayellowbadge said:

So anything else would, by definition, be 'unnatural'.

I can't see anyone finding that offensive.

They don't have some magical right to never be offended.

Unnatural= other than occurs in nature or not as one is born. If they don't like it then tough titty.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Rovinghawk said:

They don't have some magical right to never be offended.

Unnatural= other than occurs in nature or not as one is born. If they don't like it then tough titty.

Thanks for your understanding and acceptance.

[Rovinghawk]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Thanks for your understanding and acceptance.

The words were used with their correct meaning as opposed to euphemisms to prevent delicate little snowflakes from hearing something they might not like.

"I'm offended by that" doesn't confer special rights on them, it's just whingeing.

I don't agree with deliberately using insulting terms to upset people but neither do I believe in walking on eggshells so as to not riskthe slightest chance of causing offence.

[Justayellowbadge]

Think I'll stick with something nicely neutral like 'abhorrent in the eyes of the Lord'.

[Rovinghawk]

Justayellowbadge said:

Think I'll stick with something nicely neutral like 'abhorrent in the eyes of the Lord'.

According to the bible, slavery is ok but poly-cotton clothing is an abomination. It's probably difficult to guess that god's likes & dislikes.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Rovinghawk said:

I don't agree with deliberately using insulting terms to upset people...

Your general attitude, and the use of terms like "delicate little snowflakes", suggests otherwise.

[Rovinghawk]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Your general attitude, and the use of terms like "delicate little snowflakes", suggests otherwise.

Call me old-fashioned. Those with a little willy are blokes, those with a receptacle designed for a little willy are girlies. 99.999% of the population fall into that system therefore anything else is largely bullst IMO.

[Halb]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Your general attitude, and the use of terms like "delicate little snowflakes", suggests otherwise.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Rovinghawk said:

Call me old-fashioned. Those with a little willy are blokes, those with a receptacle designed for a little willy are girlies. 99.999% of the population fall into that system therefore anything else is largely bullst IMO.

Wow. It's almost as if this entire multi-page debate has never happened.

So, post-op trans women are girlies then, because they now have a receptacle? Cool. And post-op trans men are blokes? Works for me.

What about soldiers who have had their dick blown off by an IED? Are they still blokes?

[Justayellowbadge]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Your general attitude, and the use of terms like "delicate little snowflakes", suggests otherwise.

True enough, but I also see precisely zero difference between 'snowflake' and 'gammon' in terms of the impression given of the intellect of those using the term.