Man with staples in his face unemployed

[Robertj21a]

Sa Calobra said:

I'd employ him if he had the ability to do the job or potential to be good. I'd employ people with tattoos too (non offensive). Unless you want a drone we are all individuals.

I wouldn't employ him unless there really were no other applicants, and it was a behind the scenes role - even then I probably wouldn't. When I employ somebody I want to look forward a few years to when that person may be suitable for promotion. I don't want to then find that my good, experienced, worker is simply not suitable for the obvious promotion because it may, at times, be customer facing. If job applicants haven't got the sense to see that tattoos, piercings, staples etc are likely to limit their job prospects then they're not the type of applicant I want anyway.

[everyeggabird]

I went into my bank last year for some help and advice.

The young bloke that tried to deal with me had a tattoo poking out from under the collar of his shirt. I am an old fart and judged him straight away.

I ended up cutting the meeting short as he was clueless and his 'advice' was utter garbage. I might as well have stopped a passer-by in the street and asked them.

[thebraketester]

Mastodon2 said:

Despite the silly piercings, I think this guy's problem is expecting a highly skilled job to build a career when he has done nothing to deserve it. What skills does he have? If he goes into interviews with that sense of entitlement it's no wonder they're showing him the door - if he even gets to interview, because who would waste an hour interviewing him? His CV is probably blank. No education by the sounds of it and couldn't hold down a job in Poundstretchers.

^^^ this. The fact he has face staples doesn't have any bearing on him getting a job.

Get a trade, get off your arse. Do some fking work and the work will come to you.

Edited by thebraketester on Tuesday 23 May 08:25

[g3org3y]

thebraketester said:

Mastodon2 said:

Despite the silly piercings, I think this guy's problem is expecting a highly skilled job to build a career when he has done nothing to deserve it. What skills does he have? If he goes into interviews with that sense of entitlement it's no wonder they're showing him the door - if he even gets to interview, because who would waste an hour interviewing him? His CV is probably blank. No education by the sounds of it and couldn't hold down a job in Poundstretchers.

^^^ this. The fact he has face staples doesn't have any bearing on him but getting a job.

Get a trade, get of your arse. Do some fking work and the work will come to you.

Seems to be the long and the short of it tbh.

[xjay1337]

thebraketester said:

^^^ this. The fact he has face staples doesn't have any bearing on him getting a job.

Get a trade, get off your arse. Do some fking work and the work will come to you.

Edited by thebraketester on Tuesday 23 May 08:25

Is that why you work 2 days a fortnight?

[gmaz]

Sa Calobra said:

I'd employ him if he had the ability to do the job or potential to be good. I'd employ people with tattoos too (non offensive). Unless you want a drone we are all individuals.

The thing is, that yes we are all individuals, but a person with very prominent tattoos or face piercings has chosen to be "in your face" about their individuality. As a manager I would assume this means the person may have their own ideas about they should dress for work, interact with customers, prioritise their personal life against work etc. Therefore they would be a more difficult person to manage than one who conforms so society norms.

[dingg]

when I see those nose and lip rings I just get an urge to rip the fkers out


that'll teach them

[Robertj21a]

gmaz said:

The thing is, that yes we are all individuals, but a person with very prominent tattoos or face piercings has chosen to be "in your face" about their individuality. As a manager I would assume this means the person may have their own ideas about they should dress for work, interact with customers, prioritise their personal life against work etc. Therefore they would be a more difficult person to manage than one who conforms so society norms.

Your assumption that they would be a more difficult person to manage is spot on, in my experience. Awkward and less co-operative than the 'norm'.

[Kermit power]

57 Chevy said:

The point I was trying to make is that some jobs still will not take people because of piercings and tattoos so by having them you are ruling yourself out of those careers. Fine if you are comfortable making money elsewhere or have a career that allows or even wants them, there is no problem. This guy doesn't know what he wants to do but is ruling himself out of certain jobs. In fact he had an opportunity to use the publicity of this interview to promote himself but either chose not too or was not aware enough to take advantage.

Until the CEO of Barclays turns up to a press conference covered in ink then we are not at the point where it is transparent to employment.

I suspect that increasingly employers will cotton on to the fact that there's a whole swathe of companies ignoring people purely on physical appearance rather than any particular lack of skills. They'll then jump in and recruit those people at a bargain rate, become more successful than the mainstream, and the business world will change.

Just in the completely mainstream, I work for an IT company which, well into the Seventies mandated to my father's generation in the contract of employment what colour shirt, suit and tie their employees were permitted to wear.

I honestly can't remember the last time I wore a tie, either in the office or at a customer site, and nobody thinks twice about it.

Move on a few more years until my kids are the managers, and heaven only knows what will be considered perfectly normal.

[thebraketester]

xjay1337 said:

thebraketester said:

^^^ this. The fact he has face staples doesn't have any bearing on him getting a job.

Get a trade, get off your arse. Do some fking work and the work will come to you.

Edited by thebraketester on Tuesday 23 May 08:25

Is that why you work 2 days a fortnight?

Well.... if you work really really hard then you have to do less actual work as a result ;-)

[dingg]

nanook

you're quite correct

I am a

[98elise]

Sa Calobra said:

I'd employ him if he had the ability to do the job or potential to be good. I'd employ people with tattoos too (non offensive). Unless you want a drone we are all individuals.

You still have limits though.

Given the choice between someone with visible tattoos and someone without but sightly less able, I would choose the one without tatoos.

The one with made choices that WILL permanent affect their ability to work and provide for themselves and their family. I personally thing that shows pretty poor judgement and I'd expect that to carry through into their attitude to work.

If that's what they want to do then fine, but you cannot expect other people to change their attitude to your decisions. That's just how life works.

Edited by 98elise on Tuesday 23 May 20:39

[PorkInsider]

Rude-boy said:

Amusingly within 20 years the CEO of Barclays is likely to have a tattoo...

Nope. I can't see it myself. Doesn't look the type at all.

[AlexC1981]

Yipper said:

Yes, body art has gone in and out of fashion for the past ~15k years. Tatts and piercings will no doubt go out of fashion again at some point in the coming years. For example, it was Queen Victoria's husband who liked poking a ring through his bellend in the 1800s, almost nobody did it in the 1900s, and it is popularish again in the 2000s.

I just did a google image search for cock piercing. Oh my God....... Speaking as a man who is naturally very fond of his penis, I don't get how people can do such terrible things to themselves unless they have some sort of self harming mental illness.

[Rich_W]

Can I just add that I have yet to see a Girl whose looks were improved by a facial piercing. Even a nose stud just looks ste

[everyeggabird]

Nanook said:

everyeggabird said:

I went into my bank last year for some help and advice.

The young bloke that tried to deal with me had a tattoo poking out from under the collar of his shirt. I am an old fart and judged him straight away.

I ended up cutting the meeting short as he was clueless and his 'advice' was utter garbage. I might as well have stopped a passer-by in the street and asked them.

I know plenty of stupid people with no tattoos.

I know some clever people that do have tattoos.

The fact that he had tattoos, and the fact that he was crap at his job are totally unrelated.

Correct. But I did say I am an old fart and the tattoo made me judge him straight away which is what this discussion is all about.

[thebraketester]

That fact you judged him for having a tattoo (ignoring the fact he subsequently was effing useless) says more about you than it does about him.

[Venturist]

thebraketester said:

That fact you judged him for having a tattoo (ignoring the fact he subsequently was effing useless) says more about you than it does about him.

I disagree, we all snap judge other people based on appearances, it's kept our species alive for millennia. If you voluntarily choose to do something to yourself that means people WILL perceive you negatively, well, that's your right, but by the same virtue it's also other people's right to form an opinion of you based on it.

It's not exactly a huge secret that many people find tattoos distasteful either.

You can go outdoors wearing a Teletubby costume if you like, it's a free country, but you can't also demand nobody react to it. That's life.