Foreign policy and terrorism in UK - any connection?
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ferrisbueller said:
Yipper said:
Roughly 90% of Islamist terror attacks worldwide so far in 2017 have been against countries *without* foreign-interventionist policies (e.g. Afghanistan).
Labour are pro-terror, anti-Britain apologists, exploiting dead children for crass political gain.
Wow.Labour are pro-terror, anti-Britain apologists, exploiting dead children for crass political gain.
desolate said:
ferrisbueller said:
Yipper said:
Roughly 90% of Islamist terror attacks worldwide so far in 2017 have been against countries *without* foreign-interventionist policies (e.g. Afghanistan).
Labour are pro-terror, anti-Britain apologists, exploiting dead children for crass political gain.
Wow.Labour are pro-terror, anti-Britain apologists, exploiting dead children for crass political gain.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Something I said on another thread.
After Monday how many comments have we seen along the lines of "Just fking nuke the middle east" or "We should bomb the st out of Libya"?
Some people take the view "They killed our kids on Monday night so let's kill them" and whilst it's only a tiny minority who think that way if they had the chance they'd press the button and do it
See any parallels?
It doesn't excuse it in any way shape or form but it seems very simplistic to say our actions overseas have absolutely nothing to do with it.
Exactly. But in another thread some people are saying that those who try to understand the situation and don't respond by joining the hate and trying to ban everything don't want to find a solution.After Monday how many comments have we seen along the lines of "Just f
king nuke the middle east" or "We should bomb the st out of Libya"?Some people take the view "They killed our kids on Monday night so let's kill them" and whilst it's only a tiny minority who think that way if they had the chance they'd press the button and do it
See any parallels?
It doesn't excuse it in any way shape or form but it seems very simplistic to say our actions overseas have absolutely nothing to do with it.
Everyone is so fking wishy washy nowadays about everything, trying to find an acceptable reason for everything that happens. Anyone that can't see that the Muslims want world domination is either stupid or deluded. Why do they all have 27 kids each? its in their genes, slowly but surely they are accomplishing what they want. They resemble something like locusts, devour everything and move on, everywhere they have been and occupied is like somewhere after a nuclear winter.
Maybe there can be no peace, ever, has anyone thought about that, maybe annihilation one way or the other is the only thing that will ever stop this.
king wishy washy nowadays about everything, trying to find an acceptable reason for everything that happens. Anyone that can't see that the Muslims want world domination is either stupid or deluded. Why do they all have 27 kids each? its in their genes, slowly but surely they are accomplishing what they want. They resemble something like locusts, devour everything and move on, everywhere they have been and occupied is like somewhere after a nuclear winter.Maybe there can be no peace, ever, has anyone thought about that, maybe annihilation one way or the other is the only thing that will ever stop this.
Q. Foreign policy and terrorism in UK - any connection?
My answer: Yes because by helping topple some regimes we have made our country less safe. It gives an excuse for radicalised young men and women both from abroad and here to attack us.
But if we never got involved in any other countries events again we would still be fair game.
My answer: Yes because by helping topple some regimes we have made our country less safe. It gives an excuse for radicalised young men and women both from abroad and here to attack us.
But if we never got involved in any other countries events again we would still be fair game.
s2art said:
gadgetmac said:
Ms Abedi said she thought he was driven by America's military attacks in the Middle East.
“I think he saw children - Muslim children - dying everywhere, and wanted revenge," she told the Wall Street Journal.
But yes, you all go on convincing yourselves its ISIS world war against the 5 billion non muslims (kuffars) on the planet armed with no 'war machine' only home made explosives that made him target children on Monday night at a pop festival.
From ISIS in their online magazine Dabiq;“I think he saw children - Muslim children - dying everywhere, and wanted revenge," she told the Wall Street Journal.
But yes, you all go on convincing yourselves its ISIS world war against the 5 billion non muslims (kuffars) on the planet armed with no 'war machine' only home made explosives that made him target children on Monday night at a pop festival.
'We hate you, first and foremost, because you are disbelievers; you reject the oneness of Allah – whether you realize it or not – by making partners for Him in worship, you blaspheme against Him, claiming that He has a son, you fabricate lies against His prophets and messengers, and you indulge in all manner of devilish practices.'
It goes on a bit, google it.
gothatway said:
mickmcpaddy said:
Anyone that can't see that the Muslims want world domination is either stupid or deluded. Why do they all have 27 kids each
Let me guess - you don't know any muslims, let alone count any amongst your friends.Of course these are related. The beach massacre in Tunisia a couple of years ago, trained in Libya. And now Manchester, the father was trained in Libya. We allowed him to go there. There was no training of terrorists in Libya under Gaddafi. Or under Saddam Hussein in Iraq. We destroyed these countries, we helped the people who created the training camps. Of course these things are related.
It's not contentious. It's not new. There is even a term for it: "blowback". Google it.
It's not contentious. It's not new. There is even a term for it: "blowback". Google it.
grumbledoak said:
Of course these are related. The beach massacre in Tunisia a couple of years ago, trained in Libya. And now Manchester, the father was trained in Libya. We allowed him to go there. There was no training of terrorists in Libya under Gaddafi. Or under Saddam Hussein in Iraq. We destroyed these countries, we helped the people who created the training camps. Of course these things are related.
It's not contentious. It's not new. There is even a term for it: "blowback". Google it.
The IRA trained in Libya but I agree..It's not contentious. It's not new. There is even a term for it: "blowback". Google it.
TonyToniTone said:
I doubt there would be any of these attacks or people pouring into Europe if Husain, Gaddafi, al-Assad etc were still ruling, so there must be some connection to our foreign policy.
Sceptical. We didnt go into Syria, but its in a massive civil war and ISIS and others are involved. It was only a matter of time before Gaddafi or Saddam would have been in a similar condition (if still alive).Partly. Sadly , some here just wish to start at the Iraq war as being the start of radical Islam in the UK and stopping there so the blame lays solely with us. Problem being you could see the start of the problem in the UK from a Muslim population when a bloke called Salman had the cheek to write a novel . Plus ISIS themselves say foreign policy is only a secondary excuse to kill and its not quite as some would like to portray it as.
s2art said:
TonyToniTone said:
I doubt there would be any of these attacks or people pouring into Europe if Husain, Gaddafi, al-Assad etc were still ruling, so there must be some connection to our foreign policy.
Sceptical. We didnt go into Syria, but its in a massive civil war and ISIS and others are involved. It was only a matter of time before Gaddafi or Saddam would have been in a similar condition (if still alive).TonyToniTone said:
grumbledoak said:
Of course these are related. The beach massacre in Tunisia a couple of years ago, trained in Libya. And now Manchester, the father was trained in Libya. We allowed him to go there. There was no training of terrorists in Libya under Gaddafi. Or under Saddam Hussein in Iraq. We destroyed these countries, we helped the people who created the training camps. Of course these things are related.
It's not contentious. It's not new. There is even a term for it: "blowback". Google it.
The IRA trained in Libya but I agree..It's not contentious. It's not new. There is even a term for it: "blowback". Google it.
mickmcpaddy said:
gothatway said:
mickmcpaddy said:
Anyone that can't see that the Muslims want world domination is either stupid or deluded. Why do they all have 27 kids each
Let me guess - you don't know any muslims, let alone count any amongst your friends.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff