Four countries cut links with Qatar

Four countries cut links with Qatar

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gooner1

10,223 posts

179 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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BBC are now reporting that Al Jazeera are currently under a cyber attack.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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Given that the Americans have 10k U.S. servicemen permanently stationed at an air base in Qatar I'm surprised they've taken such a partisan stance here. The Qataris also buy billions of dollars of American arms. It appears the Americans are quite happy to deepen their involvement in this wider Shiite-Sunni conflict which will no doubt please Saudi Arabia (and Israel to a certain extent).

NoIP

559 posts

84 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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BlackLabel said:
Given that the Americans have 10k U.S. servicemen permanently stationed at an air base in Qatar I'm surprised they've taken such a partisan stance here. The Qataris also buy billions of dollars of American arms. It appears the Americans are quite happy to deepen their involvement in this wider Shiite-Sunni conflict which will no doubt please Saudi Arabia (and Israel to a certain extent).
I think Trump has probably been told to STFU tweeting by his advisors after his "working as intended" tweet gaffe in response to Saudi saying they were cutting ties. I reckon he's probably been told to keep his beak out and let them fight it out between themselves, hopefully without shots being fired. If shots get fired then it's going to be awkward.. hehe

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Thursday 15th June 2017
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Well this is one way to get the US back on side.

"Washington and Doha have signed an agreement for the purchase of F-15 fighter jets with an initial cost of $12bn, as US President Donald Trump's administration attempts to navigate an ongoing diplomatic crisis in the Gulf."

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.aljazeera.com/amp...

Likes Fast Cars

2,770 posts

165 months

Thursday 15th June 2017
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And they're still proceeding with some joint military exercises now AFAIK.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Friday 23rd June 2017
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anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 23rd June 2017
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RedTrident said:
Sounds like fighting talk to me.

gooner1

10,223 posts

179 months

Friday 23rd June 2017
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desolate said:
Sounds like fighting talk to me.
Let's hope it isn't.

Can't see Qatar agreeing to that lot, especially the Turkish base and the audits.
Then again, how many and which demands are really being sought.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 23rd June 2017
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gooner1 said:
Let's hope it isn't.

Can't see Qatar agreeing to that lot, especially the Turkish base and the audits.
Then again, how many and which demands are really being sought.
All I hope is that we stay out of it.

Demanding that a news channel is closed down seems frankly ridiculous - the fact that we aren't in full voice condemning them shows how they have us by the short and curlies.

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

170 months

Saturday 24th June 2017
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desolate said:
gooner1 said:
Let's hope it isn't.

Can't see Qatar agreeing to that lot, especially the Turkish base and the audits.
Then again, how many and which demands are really being sought.
All I hope is that we stay out of it.

Demanding that a news channel is closed down seems frankly ridiculous - the fact that we aren't in full voice condemning them shows how they have us by the short and curlies.
Yeah demanding a news channel silenced is wrong...oh wait, you mean Al Jazeera, right.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 24th June 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
Yeah demanding a news channel silenced is wrong...oh wait, you mean Al Jazeera, right.
And your point is?

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

170 months

Saturday 24th June 2017
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It's nice to see theres more than a few people wanting the silencing of that mouth piece.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 24th June 2017
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What makes that particular mouthpiece worse than, say, Fox News

wc98

10,378 posts

140 months

Saturday 24th June 2017
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desolate said:
All I hope is that we stay out of it.

Demanding that a news channel is closed down seems frankly ridiculous - the fact that we aren't in full voice condemning them shows how they have us by the short and curlies.
some of these things would be a good ideabut coming from saudi the request is laughable. pot, kettle,black etc.

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

170 months

Saturday 24th June 2017
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desolate said:
What makes that particular mouthpiece worse than, say, Fox News
My main issue with them was giving air to the "Charlie Hebdo is racist" claptrap post-terror attack in Paris. Also they had an offshoot called AJ+ which was the kind of historical revisionism/Identity politics videos that have lead to a rotting of the collective Western mind. Just my 2p.

Carl_Manchester

12,167 posts

262 months

Saturday 24th June 2017
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saaby93 said:
Can someone set out in a few lines what this is about confused
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-402058...
My personal opinion is that it is really about this, the article is from 2014.

http://www.reuters.com/article/china-offshore-yuan...

I posted in the other thread regarding the demise of the petro-dollar, I think this is a chess move by the Saudi's and the U.S to try and influence Qatar's foreign policy away from Iran and China in order to maintain the petro-dollar status-quo.

Without the petro-dollar, the U.S is basically bankrupt.

IMO it has little to do with terrorism although, it is pretty clear that in the eyes of the Saudi's and UAE that the Qatari's needed taking down a peg or two.


anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 24th June 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
My main issue with them was giving air to the "Charlie Hebdo is racist" claptrap post-terror attack in Paris. Also they had an offshoot called AJ+ which was the kind of historical revisionism/Identity politics videos that have lead to a rotting of the collective Western mind. Just my 2p.
"Rotting of the collective Western mind"

You need to get out of your bedroom and stop wking.

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

170 months

Saturday 24th June 2017
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desolate said:
MrBrightSi said:
My main issue with them was giving air to the "Charlie Hebdo is racist" claptrap post-terror attack in Paris. Also they had an offshoot called AJ+ which was the kind of historical revisionism/Identity politics videos that have lead to a rotting of the collective Western mind. Just my 2p.
"Rotting of the collective Western mind"

You need to get out of your bedroom and stop wking.
Come lend a hand.

Wills2

22,785 posts

175 months

Saturday 24th June 2017
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desolate said:
All I hope is that we stay out of it.

Demanding that a news channel is closed down seems frankly ridiculous - the fact that we aren't in full voice condemning them shows how they have us by the short and curlies.
Why should we condemn them? It's got nothing to do with us and we should keep our noses out, we have enough to deal with here.





FourWheelDrift

88,494 posts

284 months

Saturday 24th June 2017
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Back Qatar and anger a group of terrorist funding Arabs or back the Saudi's and anger a different group of terrorist funding Arabs.

I think the foreign office has the phone off the hook.



Usual practice is to publicly back the winners.