Evidence of General Election Voting Fraud
Discussion
Perhaps we should get the Ugandans in to investigate.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/observer-ugan...
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/observer-ugan...
Moonhawk said:
The Surveyor said:
This is a non-issue. The numbers involved will be small in the overall scheme of things.
I wouldn't be so sure. Most universities in the UK have between 10,000 and 40,000 students - with many towns/cities having more than one university. It wouldn't take a large percentage of the student population to double vote to have significant impact on the result.....
There is no conspiracy theory of an organised and secret student pact to double-vote on marginal seats, if there had been they wouldn't have been able to contain their smug-ness and after a couple of ciders the world would know.
The Surveyor said:
The point I was making was that for this to have had any real impact it would have needed to be widespread and co-ordinated. If it had been widespread and co-ordinated there would be more evidence than one or two random facebook claims.
I disagree that it would have to be coordinatedThere are over half a million students in the UK, if just 0.5-1% decided to do it off their own back (that's potentially 25-50k additional votes in the system) - it could have quite a dramatic effect on the outcome, especially in areas of high student concentration.
Of course you are correct in as much as at the moment is does seem to be based on hearsay - and I did concede in my first post on this thread that if people are spreading unfounded rumours just because the election didn't go how they wanted it to - then they need to grow up
However if there is real evidence of this going on, it does need to be investigated as it has potentially put the country in a very uncertain position, not to mention undermined the whole democratic process.
Edited by Moonhawk on Tuesday 13th June 14:16
Moonhawk said:
jmorgan said:
.......and were the numbers changing a result?
They could do.I have just been through the constituency results here (it would be nice if there was a proper tabulated version):
https://ig.ft.com/election-results-2017/constituen...
Labour won 15 seats off the Conservatives with less than a 2% margin (much less than 1% in some cases) - and a further 4 from other parties.
Even a couple of hundred fraudulent votes in some of these constituencies would have been enough to flip the result.
Zod said:
I make it just over 1250 based on the table I posted earlier based on the first 8 seats where Labour just pipped the Conservatives.I didn't consider seats where the Conservatives were pipped by another party - so it's possible my number is an overestimate.
Edited by Moonhawk on Tuesday 13th June 14:30
I honestly think this should be investigated. Places like Canterbury that gained a labour seat by a few hundred votes would very well have been tory without duplicate voting, when you consider the numbers of extremely marginal seats, irrespective of voter turnout, it is highly possible that duplicate voting cost the tories their majority.
The whole brexit process is thrown in to turmoil, imagine if that was down to the loss or gain of one MP, one seat. Now think if that seat was won or lost by under 10 votes, the most marginal seats were won by 2 votes.
Now think if those 2 votes were duplicate, 2 people voted fraudulently, have altered the result of the seat, which altered the balance of power in the commons, which determines how the government operates.
And people moan at Gina Miller for being a subvertter of democracy....
The whole brexit process is thrown in to turmoil, imagine if that was down to the loss or gain of one MP, one seat. Now think if that seat was won or lost by under 10 votes, the most marginal seats were won by 2 votes.
Now think if those 2 votes were duplicate, 2 people voted fraudulently, have altered the result of the seat, which altered the balance of power in the commons, which determines how the government operates.
And people moan at Gina Miller for being a subvertter of democracy....
The petition is still there.
Rhys who started the petition had to remove the word 'Labour' from the title after numerous complaints from Labour supporters.
So...
SIGN IT!
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Rhys who started the petition had to remove the word 'Labour' from the title after numerous complaints from Labour supporters.
So...
SIGN IT!
https://www.change.org/p/uk-electoral-commission-g...
JagLover said:
Isolated case or tip of an iceberg?JagLover said:
Shame the fine wasn't £5000.JagLover said:
bad company said:
Isolated case or tip of an iceberg?
I would imagine thousands did it (mainly students) but most were not so blatant in their boasting about it. don'tbesilly said:
JagLover said:
bad company said:
Isolated case or tip of an iceberg?
I would imagine thousands did it (mainly students) but most were not so blatant in their boasting about it. Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff