Huge Fire In Block Of Flats

[kev1974]

Collectingbrass said:

spaximus said:

Blue Oval84 said:

People drive about on bald tyres every day, and can make many journeys without incident. Despite that, I would still stop using my car immediately if I discovered my tyres were bald.

I certainly wouldn't be happy living in a block that wasn't stong enough to survive a gas blast. Only this morning a house that has stood without incident for C. 60 years in my hometown has been blown sky high...

http://news.sky.com/story/sunderland-house-destroy...

Any building will take a big hit with a gas explosion but my feelings are that every council and councillor is now so afraid of any sort of incident that they are knee jerk reacting all over the place.

What will the end be, no more high rise for social housing, if so where will they all go? There is already a massive shortage so adding to it for an incident so unlikely now.

The trouble with gas in high rise blocks comes from Ronan Point. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronan_Point Blocks built at the time were supposed to be strengthened to prevent the progressive collapse seen at Ronan Point but Southwark council can't evidence that it was done on the towers at Peckham.

We can make any multiple occupancy building "safe" from fire, people just don't want to live in a steel box, look at one or pay for the extra cost.

Southwark Council previously had this 2009 tower block fire on their hands.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/feb/24/so...

After that they ran around putting extra fire exits in nearly every building they're responsible for; take a look at any social housing block in Southwark and they invariably now have a fire escape tagged on to the roof or side.

So how come they didn't find this latest problem when they did all the post-Lakanal surveying and assessing, or what's changed about the rules now, to make these latest buildings a problem now.

[Blue Oval84]

kev1974 said:

Southwark Council previously had this 2009 tower block fire on their hands.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/feb/24/so...

After that they ran around putting extra fire exits in nearly every building they're responsible for; take a look at any social housing block in Southwark and they invariably now have a fire escape tagged on to the roof or side.

So how come they didn't find this latest problem when they did all the post-Lakanal surveying and assessing, or what's changed about the rules now, to make these latest buildings a problem now.

I'd put money on the post-Lakanal assessors not being asked to look at the stability of the building structure. It seems that they have finally realised that having gaping cracks in the concrete is not conducive to strength, should there ever be a gas explosion.

[BlackLabel]

A teenager who was among the survivors of the Grenfell Tower disaster has achieved an A grade in GCSE science, despite taking her chemistry exam just a few short hours after escaping the burning building. Inês Alves made headlines in the wake of the tragedy, that claimed at least 80 lives, after heading straight to school to sit her 9am exam in the clothes she escaped in during the night. The 16-year-old fled the building in whatever she could pull over her pyjamas – and her revision notes – as her family lost all their possessions when the fire gutted their 13th floor flat on 14 June.

[BlackLabel]

Another case of fraud.

"Grenfell Tower fire: Woman charged with fraud after 'falsely claiming money from survivor emergency fund'

A 52-year-old man was charged with fraud in June for claiming he lost family members in the blaze"


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/gre...

[Trevatanus]

BlackLabel said:

Another case of fraud.

"Grenfell Tower fire: Woman charged with fraud after 'falsely claiming money from survivor emergency fund'

A 52-year-old man was charged with fraud in June for claiming he lost family members in the blaze"


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/gre...

absolute scum

[dazwalsh]

BlackLabel said:

Another case of fraud.

"Grenfell Tower fire: Woman charged with fraud after 'falsely claiming money from survivor emergency fund'

A 52-year-old man was charged with fraud in June for claiming he lost family members in the blaze"


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/gre...

i knew there would be scumbags like this trying their luck, using the back of a horrific tragedy for their own personal gain. disgusting

[Slaav]

dazwalsh said:

i knew there would be scumbags like this trying their luck, using the back of a horrific tragedy for their own personal gain. disgusting

Are you talking about the Fraud etc or the Politicians scoring cheap Political points?

[BlackLabel]

The head of the British Red Cross has admitted the charity struggled with the Grenfell disaster because its workforce is too white. Mike Adamson, the charity’s chief executive, said: “There is a risk that in a very diverse community like Grenfell, an organisation with the words ‘British’ and ‘Cross’ in its title is confused with a Christian establishment organisation.”


Non paywall.

MIKE ADAMSON: WHAT THE RED CROSS LEARNED AT GRENFELL TOWER

[dudleybloke]

So people refused help because they have racist views on white people?

[Murph7355]

dudleybloke said:

So people refused help because they have racist views on white people?

They should get Lammy to do a review.

[hairyben]

dudleybloke said:

So people refused help because they have racist views on white people?

Dont be silly, its all the racist white mans fault, y'know spreading the race hate by being over represented helping a volunteer organisation dedicated to caring for the needy.


This st really has to eat itself soon doesnt it?

[Burwood]

dudleybloke said:

So people refused help because they have racist views on white people?

and their uniform is not gender neutral. It's getting all a bit batstcrazy

[andymc]

let the fkers go hungry or better still set up their own support groups, like the ones they ran at Tower Hamlets, that turned out well....

[anonymous-user]

dudleybloke said:

So people refused help because they have racist views on white people?

Have you actually read it, I Can't see anybody refusing, but as most people on PH love to jump to their own conclusions why not just make up what happened to fit your views?

Edited by The Spruce goose on Monday 11th September 14:37

[dickymint]

Should of used The Red Crescent

[Laurel Green]

Police are investigating after a quantity of cash was stolen from a flat inside Grenfell Tower just days after the tragic fire took place, LBC has learned.

[Lotobear]

Interesting comments at the end of the linked article

[Lotobear]

Interesting comments at the end of the linked article

[hornetrider]

Laurel Green said:

Police are investigating after a quantity of cash was stolen from a flat inside Grenfell Tower just days after the tragic fire took place, LBC has learned.

Sounds legit. They should pay him whatever he claims was stuffed down the back of his sofa.

[Oakey]

I don't see any?