Fruit grower voted Leave - sorry now!

[citizensm1th]

Raygun said:

So it does raise the question.
Who picked the fking strawberries before Igor and his mates turned up?

the Portuguese used to come over and it always used to be a east end tradition to leave the smoke come harvest time.

these days though with out the eastern europeans farmers are buggered

as has been said with the low pound against the euro they wont bother coming over here

[BoRED S2upid]

So are foreign workers exempt from minimum wage or is he admitting to paying less? Employ kids UK born kids believe it or not some student types will work picking fruit.

[stichill99]

So he wants to pay the bare minimum for staff, I can't imagine why that would be with such generous buyers as our glorious supermarkets who will undoubtedly say we can pay you more Mr Farmer as we realise your labour costs have went up considerably. We must support local producers so we can keep our carbon footprint down. Oh yes he has nothing to worry about. I just love British strawberry's,well strawberry's that are packaged here so they can put a union jack flag on the box so people think they are buying British. Jobs a good un!

[citizensm1th]

A fella i was a school with has since 1984 spent his summers working in the tomato greenhouses on the isle of wight and his winters collecting the dole.

he is married with 7 kids and has a council house

he is one of the most content people i know

[crankedup]

rxe said:

A business model founded on poles coming over to work for buttons is never a long term thing. Regardless of Brexit, what happens when there is an economic boom in Easter Europe and people no longer want to come over.

It's not the Polish that work in the agricultural and horticultural sectors so much now. They have been financially undercut by the Romainians and Bulgarians, the Polish were not happy, but hey ho it's a Global market.

[AJB88]

alock said:

our government to needs to make it less desirable for unemployed people to reject these jobs.

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This.

[wc98]

Raygun said:

So it does raise the question.
Who picked the fking strawberries before Igor and his mates turned up?

every single traditional holiday period in the uk was initially arranged around the various harvesting seasons . when i was a kid most of the kids i knew regardless of background went to the "berries" in the summer and the "toties" in october, for a few days at least. it would be a good a way of encouraging youngsters today to get off their various devices and learning what fairly hard work is while having a good laugh . if nothing else they make a few quid and know if they don't want a hard manual labour job when they leave school they better get their finger out at school.

[citizensm1th]

AJB88 said:

This.

so do you think there are enough unemployed people in the areas that require fruit and veg pickers or are you proposing to buss people in from the cities?

[Deptford Draylons]

Jimboka said:

A fantastic opportunity for those who voted to send those damn foreigners home. Coming over here & taking our jobs etc etc.
I bet he will be snowed under with applications from the disadvantaged locals

Given there was no vote to 'send those damn foreigners home', you could just be speaking your normal complete bks. The issue came up in the run up to the vote and it was an area where pretty much every I saw and read agreed migrant labour come still come in and do such jobs as happened in years gone by.

[alfie2244]

citizensm1th said:

so do you think there are enough unemployed people in the areas that require fruit and veg pickers or are you proposing to buss people in from the cities?

alfie2244 said:

.farmer picked us up in an old Thames Trader van IIRC.

Newer vehicles are available.

[citizensm1th]

alfie2244 said:

citizensm1th said:

so do you think there are enough unemployed people in the areas that require fruit and veg pickers or are you proposing to buss people in from the cities?

alfie2244 said:

.farmer picked us up in an old Thames Trader van IIRC.

Newer vehicles are available.

yeah right i can just see some farmer driving from alcester to birmingham every day to collect pickers

[alfie2244]

citizensm1th said:

alfie2244 said:

citizensm1th said:

so do you think there are enough unemployed people in the areas that require fruit and veg pickers or are you proposing to buss people in from the cities?

alfie2244 said:

.farmer picked us up in an old Thames Trader van IIRC.

Newer vehicles are available.

yeah right i can just see some farmer driving from alcester to birmingham every day to collect pickers

Change or die..........simples.

[Norfolkit]

AJB88 said:

alock said:

our government to needs to make it less desirable for unemployed people to reject these jobs.

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This.

Less desirable?
Here's a job you can do, do it or fk off, why is being unemployed an option if you are physically able to work and work is available.

[citizensm1th]

alfie2244 said:

citizensm1th said:

alfie2244 said:

citizensm1th said:

so do you think there are enough unemployed people in the areas that require fruit and veg pickers or are you proposing to buss people in from the cities?

alfie2244 said:

.farmer picked us up in an old Thames Trader van IIRC.

Newer vehicles are available.

yeah right i can just see some farmer driving from alcester to birmingham every day to collect pickers

Change or die..........simples.

and that is what they will do ,the farmers will move to crops they can mechanise ,and the rest of us will end up paying more for food that cannot be picked by machine.

brexit you know it makes sense

[alfie2244]

Norfolkit said:

AJB88 said:

alock said:

our government to needs to make it less desirable for unemployed people to reject these jobs.

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This.

Less desirable?
Here's a job you can do, do it or fk off, why is being unemployed an option if you are physically able to work and work is available.

And the farmer will pick you up in his van.

[Yipper]

footnote said:

I haven't heard the evidence with my own fine ears but apparently this chap was on R4 Today, saying he'd voted Leave but his business would go bust if he couldn't get migrant workers...

I know'll I'll be sorry when there's no great British strawberries - but you can only laugh.

Hundreds of industries have gone to the wall in Britain in the last 100 years, but none were due to a shortage of workers.

From manufacturing to agriculture to services, industries (like ships) have disappeared due to a severe shortage of *good managers* and good civil servants. Poor quality, low productivity, week training, low investment, slack laws, etc. etc.

It is the British Disease.

Mr Fruit Picker is a prime example. Crying into his strawberry punnet about going bust, and doing nothing, instead of thinking 5 years ahead and buying agrobots to replace them and increase productivity.

[rs1952]

alfie2244 said:

rs1952 said:

But never mind, we’ve taken back control…

We haven't left yet you silly old fool..........

If you look closely you might spot that I said that earlier in my post. It wasn't exactly hidden - you dope

alfie2244 said:

...Welcome back btw.....wheresu bin?

Lurkin

[jamoor]

Raygun said:

footnote said:

I haven't heard the evidence with my own fine ears but apparently this chap was on R4 Today, saying he'd voted Leave but his business would go bust if he couldn't get slave labor...

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Sorted it for you. Me thinks it's time he thought about a more profitable business venture rather than whinging.

You do realise that government policies impact the success of a business? Please tell me you aren't that dim.

[jamoor]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

They do the same in Australia to youths on working holiday visas, oh wait!

[Ridgemont]

citizensm1th said:

alfie2244 said:

citizensm1th said:

alfie2244 said:

citizensm1th said:

so do you think there are enough unemployed people in the areas that require fruit and veg pickers or are you proposing to buss people in from the cities?

alfie2244 said:

.farmer picked us up in an old Thames Trader van IIRC.

Newer vehicles are available.

yeah right i can just see some farmer driving from alcester to birmingham every day to collect pickers

Change or die..........simples.

and that is what they will do ,the farmers will move to crops they can mechanise ,and the rest of us will end up paying more for food that cannot be picked by machine.

brexit you know it makes sense

An odd consequence of Brexit (feature?) is that it will make the cost of labour higher and very possibly drive mechanisation. At which point productivity will finally get of its knees. The reality of ready and cheap supplies of skilled and unskilled labour across a vast array of industries, has been a major factor in low investment and innovation and a punishingly low level of production to capita. Bring it on.