UK "Drone" registration on the way?
Discussion
rscott said:
scrw. said:
Evanivitch said:
And those that are tossers now and continue to be tossers can now be traced, prosecuted and prevented from repeating.
Currently, the chances of catching a drone operator is slim unless they put a Return to Sender note on their device.
Those following the current guidelines will be inconvenienced initially,but otherwise business as usual.
How will that happen though? Likelyhood of a scrote who wants to get drugs into a prison or any other ilegal activity registering is zero, hence not actually useful. It like asking someone to register an ilegal firearm. Registering at the shop won't work when you can buy over the internetCurrently, the chances of catching a drone operator is slim unless they put a Return to Sender note on their device.
Those following the current guidelines will be inconvenienced initially,but otherwise business as usual.
Even if it did have geoblocking, many of the flight controllers are open source so it's easy to load code without it.
It's another utterly stupid idea which will waste money and achieve nothing, just like May's plans for a Chinese style internet.
Its b
ks isn't it?
You won't find all existing drones are suddenly traceable by magic. It will still be perfectly possible to acquire and operate one with no way to trace it.
And geofencing won't suddenly appear on all existing models, or be impossible to overcome.
This is very much a 'something must be done' without any serious consideration about whether it will work, especially when it comes to stopping things that are already illegal.
ks isn't it?You won't find all existing drones are suddenly traceable by magic. It will still be perfectly possible to acquire and operate one with no way to trace it.
And geofencing won't suddenly appear on all existing models, or be impossible to overcome.
This is very much a 'something must be done' without any serious consideration about whether it will work, especially when it comes to stopping things that are already illegal.
scrw. said:
How will that happen though? Likelyhood of a scrote who wants to get drugs into a prison or any other ilegal activity registering is zero, hence not actually useful. It like asking someone to register an ilegal firearm. Registering at the shop won't work when you can buy over the internet
It's exactly like with firearms, if caught with an unregistered item then you face a far tougher penalty.It's not perfect, nowhere near, but it can only be the first step towards managing the risk.
rscott said:
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It's another utterly stupid idea which will waste money and achieve nothing, just like May's plans for a Chinese style internet.
It's in the spirit of the fullest definition of "politicking".It's another utterly stupid idea which will waste money and achieve nothing, just like May's plans for a Chinese style internet.
If something happens, they can say that they tried to do something. And with the noise currently being made, nobody will be able to deny all knowledge of requirements.
What would you suggest as an alternative? (I'm assuming there are already laws that can throw stiff sentences at people if caught).
Murph7355 said:
rscott said:
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It's another utterly stupid idea which will waste money and achieve nothing, just like May's plans for a Chinese style internet.
It's in the spirit of the fullest definition of "politicking".It's another utterly stupid idea which will waste money and achieve nothing, just like May's plans for a Chinese style internet.
If something happens, they can say that they tried to do something. And with the noise currently being made, nobody will be able to deny all knowledge of requirements.
What would you suggest as an alternative? (I'm assuming there are already laws that can throw stiff sentences at people if caught).
It seems some in here don't know how drones and their software work.
If a registration scheme is brought in, then the drone software & controller will not fly the drone unless it is registered. There will be some work arounds, but the GPS and visuals will not be able to be seen by the 'pilot'. So it will have to be registered. It's very easy for the software to be configured so that registration will be necessary before flight is available.
The 'course' that is being suggested is to be online. It won't be for every drone you have, just a one off. There may well be a fee, as they'll want to screw us. (Of course).
I doubt this will be a retrospective thing - I have three drones, and unless I update the software, there is no way of controlling where I fly apart from GPS barriers, which are expensive.
My main concern is that this is a lot of pressure from companies like Amazon, who have 'bought' some of the airspace above 400 feet, and intend to control it for their own financial gain. And before you tell me I'm not allowed to fly above 400 feet, I often launch from 1200 feet and fly DOWN. How's that going to work Mr. Amazon?
...this is minus 200 feet:
If a registration scheme is brought in, then the drone software & controller will not fly the drone unless it is registered. There will be some work arounds, but the GPS and visuals will not be able to be seen by the 'pilot'. So it will have to be registered. It's very easy for the software to be configured so that registration will be necessary before flight is available.
The 'course' that is being suggested is to be online. It won't be for every drone you have, just a one off. There may well be a fee, as they'll want to screw us. (Of course).
I doubt this will be a retrospective thing - I have three drones, and unless I update the software, there is no way of controlling where I fly apart from GPS barriers, which are expensive.
My main concern is that this is a lot of pressure from companies like Amazon, who have 'bought' some of the airspace above 400 feet, and intend to control it for their own financial gain. And before you tell me I'm not allowed to fly above 400 feet, I often launch from 1200 feet and fly DOWN. How's that going to work Mr. Amazon?
...this is minus 200 feet:
GetCarter said:
It seems some in here don't know how drones and their software work.
If a registration scheme is brought in, then the drone software & controller will not fly the drone unless it is registered. There will be some work arounds, but the GPS and visuals will not be able to be seen by the 'pilot'. So it will have to be registered. It's very easy for the software to be configured so that registration will be necessary before flight is available.
There are plenty of open source software to get around this. Also, and this is the bit that is my biggest gripe, the BALP page talks of traditional R/C planes as "drones", they have been flying for decades without issue and only now are called "drones". There is no way of controlling R/C planks like you could with say DJI products, they are so different and don't have GPS or sensors built in. The whole airborne R/C hobby is being tarred with the same brush and rushed, ill informed regulation will have unexpected consequences.If a registration scheme is brought in, then the drone software & controller will not fly the drone unless it is registered. There will be some work arounds, but the GPS and visuals will not be able to be seen by the 'pilot'. So it will have to be registered. It's very easy for the software to be configured so that registration will be necessary before flight is available.
Edited by scrw. on Sunday 23 July 16:43
Gandahar said:
Luckily I have a black and white drone and not a colour one, so I will have to pay less.
Seriously for a moment, dog licences were got rid of a long time past and still dogs kill people.
Drones meanwhile now need a licence/registration/red tape .... go figure.
Don't 'new' dogs have to be micro-chipped? Same sort of thing with these drones I suppose.Seriously for a moment, dog licences were got rid of a long time past and still dogs kill people.
Drones meanwhile now need a licence/registration/red tape .... go figure.
scrw. said:
You can create no fly zones based on GPS coordinates, say 3 miles around a major airfield
But that's only on the user side. GetCarter suggested GPS barriers were expensive, but geofencing is anything but.Unless he has in mind some type of GPS denial system, which is incredibly difficult.
It was. 200 feet lower than take off.
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