New diesel and petrol cars banned from UK roads by 2030

New diesel and petrol cars banned from UK roads by 2030

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bloomen

6,892 posts

159 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Z064life said:
Why? New petrol cars aren't that bad on pollution, granted we shouldn't rely on finite sources of energy, but can't just bully drivers.


And what will happen to electricity? It will get taxed through the roof to make up for lost revenue on petrol. And that will hit us in the house not just for the car!


This is such a hairbrained scheme, hopefully manufacturers lobby it!
This is 23 years away. 99.5% of vehicles rolling around now will be long gone by then anyway.

If range issues were sorted now I'd be happily tooling around in an electric vehicle right now for everyday stuff.

Z064life

1,926 posts

248 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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bloomen said:
This is 23 years away. 99.5% of vehicles rolling around now will be long gone by then anyway.

If range issues were sorted now I'd be happily tooling around in an electric vehicle right now for everyday stuff.
What about performance motoring?

bloomen

6,892 posts

159 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Z064life said:
What about performance motoring?
Download an upgrade overnight and triple your power.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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I thought we would be hovering around in flying buggies by 2040.
Then again, I thought we would have been now, growing up in the 1970s..

danllama

5,728 posts

142 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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bloomen said:
This is 23 years away. 99.5% of vehicles rolling around now will be long gone by then anyway.

If range issues were sorted now I'd be happily tooling around in an electric vehicle right now for everyday stuff.
Are 99.5% of cars from 1994 long gone?

No, absolutely not. This is PH, stop being a dick.

Blue Oval84

5,276 posts

161 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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danllama said:
Are 99.5% of cars from 1994 long gone?

No, absolutely not. This is PH, stop being a dick.
They may as well be! Apart from rare or special stuff, the volume of 1994 cars in daily use is tiny.

By 2040 I seriously doubt anyone will miss the ICE in day to day transport. I'd have one tomorrow if I had the funds and the charging capability.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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danllama said:
bloomen said:
This is 23 years away. 99.5% of vehicles rolling around now will be long gone by then anyway.

If range issues were sorted now I'd be happily tooling around in an electric vehicle right now for everyday stuff.
Are 99.5% of cars from 1994 long gone?

No, absolutely not. This is PH, stop being a dick.
I reckon 99.5% of cars from 1994 are long gone.
How many 1994 Fords havent dissapeared in a cloud of rust?
Anyone got the numbers?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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3?

PurpleTurtle

6,981 posts

144 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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This signals a massive push towards PHEVs rather than pure EVs. Personally I could live with one tomorrow if I had to - daily commute of 50 miles, rarely go more than 100 miles in one trip.

However, we are a crowded small island. There's no way we will get a sufficiently capable charging infrastructure in place for our large towns and cities by 2040. Just think of London alone, and anywhere else with swathes of on street parking.

It's a massive sledgehammer to crack an (admittedly sizeable) nut.

JD

2,774 posts

228 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Jimboka said:
I reckon 99.5% of cars from 1994 are long gone.
How many 1994 Fords havent dissapeared in a cloud of rust?
Anyone got the numbers?
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2012/jan/06/uk-car-sales-drop

1.91m cars sold in 1994

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-set...

37,449 cars from 1994 still licensed (data is from 2016)

1.96%

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Nothingtoseehere said:
But I thought we were meant to be eating food pills by now and building bungalows on the moon.
Flying cars and robot butlers are just around the corner you know.

craigjm

17,947 posts

200 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Mr2Mike said:
Flying cars and robot butlers are just around the corner you know.
Indeed in 1985 Hollywood told us that in 2015 "we don't need roads" as the Delorean flew into the future 😂

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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danllama said:
bloomen said:
This is 23 years away. 99.5% of vehicles rolling around now will be long gone by then anyway.

If range issues were sorted now I'd be happily tooling around in an electric vehicle right now for everyday stuff.
Are 99.5% of cars from 1994 long gone?

No, absolutely not. This is PH, stop being a dick.
So around 2% still about. Not such a dick afterall

JD

2,774 posts

228 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Jimboka said:
So around 2% still about. Not such a dick afterall
Most seem to be Discoverys!

Cold

15,243 posts

90 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Will people be a lot fitter in 2040? From all the car pushing, I mean?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Jimboka said:
danllama said:
bloomen said:
This is 23 years away. 99.5% of vehicles rolling around now will be long gone by then anyway.

If range issues were sorted now I'd be happily tooling around in an electric vehicle right now for everyday stuff.
Are 99.5% of cars from 1994 long gone?

No, absolutely not. This is PH, stop being a dick.
So around 2% still about. Not such a dick afterall
2% registered, its not much of a stretch to imagine only a 1/4 of those actually being used either. Nice work JD!

Sylvaforever

2,212 posts

98 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Hmm what are the Government hoping to deflect attention from?

mickmcpaddy

1,445 posts

105 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Mr2Mike said:
Nothingtoseehere said:
But I thought we were meant to be eating food pills by now and building bungalows on the moon.
Flying cars and robot butlers are just around the corner you know.
I remember a project back in primary school in the 70s, we were tasked with drawing what we thought our town centre would look like in the year 2000. plenty of kids drew things like a dome over the town and flying cars etc. In reality today it looks pretty much like it did back then with the addition of a few luminous signs over several shops.

The vehicle I drive now is a more modern looking Cortina, its a bit more streamlined and the interior is a bit nicer but it still has seats and a steering wheel inside and 4 wheels outside. 20 years is nothing, this has about as much chance of happening as HS2.

trickywoo

11,780 posts

230 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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fblm said:
Jimboka said:
danllama said:
bloomen said:
This is 23 years away. 99.5% of vehicles rolling around now will be long gone by then anyway.

If range issues were sorted now I'd be happily tooling around in an electric vehicle right now for everyday stuff.
Are 99.5% of cars from 1994 long gone?

No, absolutely not. This is PH, stop being a dick.
So around 2% still about. Not such a dick afterall
2% registered, its not much of a stretch to imagine only a 1/4 of those actually being used either. Nice work JD!
Apart from the fact that is just one years stats. There will still be pre 94 cars around too, albeit in diminishing numbers. However will 93 and 92 be much less?

Still a small number but a bit of a logic fail to quote one year and congratulate yourself for being right.

Roofless Toothless

5,660 posts

132 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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The most significant bit of the BBC article is this:

"The government was ordered by the courts to produce new plans to tackle illegal levels of illegal pollutant nitrogen dioxide."

Well, they've done that, haven't they? Produced new plans.

Doesn't mean it's going to happen though, does it? I bet the government has plans for all sorts of things that are taken with varying amounts of seriousness.

They now have got the courts and campaigners off their back for a bit while they get on with the real world.