Locks for stable door?
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Changing the front door for a 44mm solid oak stable door, well a carpenter will be
Was going to use a standard sashlock top, deadlock bottom with a bolt between the two halves of the door. I would like to keep the look quite old school with forged iron furniture, but was thinking that the smaller key of a euro cylinder and lack of draft would be an advantage. Ideally all visible metal will be black.
Anyone recommend any brands / stockists / how I can achieve this ?
Many thanks, James
Was going to use a standard sashlock top, deadlock bottom with a bolt between the two halves of the door. I would like to keep the look quite old school with forged iron furniture, but was thinking that the smaller key of a euro cylinder and lack of draft would be an advantage. Ideally all visible metal will be black.
Anyone recommend any brands / stockists / how I can achieve this ?
Many thanks, James
Edited by jmsgld on Wednesday 26th July 14:45
jmsgld said:
Changing the front door for a 44mm solid oak stable door, well a carpenter will be
Was going to use a standard sashlock top, deadlock bottom with a bolt between the two halves of the door. I would like to keep the look quite old school with forged iron furniture, but was thinking that the smaller key of a euro cylinder and lack of draft would be an advantage. Ideally all visible metal will be black.
Anyone recommend any brands / stockists / how I can achieve this ?
Many thanks, James
Just use Euro Cylinder sash/dead locks. Like these: Was going to use a standard sashlock top, deadlock bottom with a bolt between the two halves of the door. I would like to keep the look quite old school with forged iron furniture, but was thinking that the smaller key of a euro cylinder and lack of draft would be an advantage. Ideally all visible metal will be black.
Anyone recommend any brands / stockists / how I can achieve this ?
Many thanks, James
Edited by jmsgld on Wednesday 26th July 14:45
https://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/product/union-...
https://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/product/union-...
And buy some keyed alike cylinders to suit, with thumb turns internally should you wish.
You should be able to pick all of what you need up at your local locksmiths, and if they're any good they key the cylinders alike for you. Make sure you get some decent cylinders. I'd recommend Ultion but they are expensive and not easily found.
https://www.ultion-lock.co.uk/
We've used From The Anvil for various door and window furniture - you might find something you like within their range.
Thanks for the info, it's amazing how quickly, easily and quietly that guy manages to beak that lock, thankfully there is very little crime around here, so beyond satisfying the insurers, security is only a partial concern. Are traditional locks considered more secure than euro cylinders?
Aesthetics are strangely more important in this case, and everything needs to be black, which limits the choice substantially, I like the look of this one:
https://www.chs-ironmongerydirect.co.uk/index.php/...
Another website states that the 30 30mm is suitable for a 44mm thick door (the thickness of the door in question). Was looking at the following 2.5mm thick escutcheon.
http://www.handforged.co.uk/avon-euro-escutcheon-b...
Will the above cylinder fit in any euro lock and escutcheon or is it better to stick with the same brand?
Thanks again, James
Aesthetics are strangely more important in this case, and everything needs to be black, which limits the choice substantially, I like the look of this one:
https://www.chs-ironmongerydirect.co.uk/index.php/...
Another website states that the 30 30mm is suitable for a 44mm thick door (the thickness of the door in question). Was looking at the following 2.5mm thick escutcheon.
http://www.handforged.co.uk/avon-euro-escutcheon-b...
Will the above cylinder fit in any euro lock and escutcheon or is it better to stick with the same brand?
Thanks again, James
S6PNJ said:
We've used From The Anvil for various door and window furniture - you might find something you like within their range.
Thanks, we had chosen a few bits from them but couldn't find the locks, certainly the style we are going for.
Hi James,,
A 5-lever British Standard mortise lock would generally be considered better (more secure) than a euro cylinder lock. You could get a 5-lever deadlock for the lower half-door keyed alike to a 5-lever sashlock for the upper half-door. Any decent locksmith could key alike the two locks.
That said, a good euro cylinder can also be secure. If you need a 30-30 size cylinder, then the choice of decent cylinders is limited. The Avocet ATK cylinder is a Sold Secure Diamond cylinder that's available in 30-30 size and can be keyed alike. It's not black, but you could get a black escutcheon with a cover that hides the cylinder.
As stable doors open outwards, I'd definitely get 'hinge bolts' for both upper and lower halves of the door. Once installed, hinge bolts will be hidden and so there's no impact on aesthetics. They're a no-brainer that are cheap and fit-and-forget.
A 5-lever British Standard mortise lock would generally be considered better (more secure) than a euro cylinder lock. You could get a 5-lever deadlock for the lower half-door keyed alike to a 5-lever sashlock for the upper half-door. Any decent locksmith could key alike the two locks.
That said, a good euro cylinder can also be secure. If you need a 30-30 size cylinder, then the choice of decent cylinders is limited. The Avocet ATK cylinder is a Sold Secure Diamond cylinder that's available in 30-30 size and can be keyed alike. It's not black, but you could get a black escutcheon with a cover that hides the cylinder.
As stable doors open outwards, I'd definitely get 'hinge bolts' for both upper and lower halves of the door. Once installed, hinge bolts will be hidden and so there's no impact on aesthetics. They're a no-brainer that are cheap and fit-and-forget.
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