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this evening we followed a Walkers crisp artic up the A1, he pulled out for a couple of miles of "elephant racing" as we were half a mile from our junction I tucked in behind the truck he was attempting to pass,
my comment that I was suprised he was struggling uphill as he cant be heavily loaded, was met buy my wifes reply that if full he would still be heavy..................
anyone know how many packets in a box? and how many boxes to fill a curtainsider?
I doubt there would be more than a couple of ton even if full.
male pride at stake here chaps.
my comment that I was suprised he was struggling uphill as he cant be heavily loaded, was met buy my wifes reply that if full he would still be heavy..................
anyone know how many packets in a box? and how many boxes to fill a curtainsider?
I doubt there would be more than a couple of ton even if full.
male pride at stake here chaps.
I run a business that amongst other things delivers artic loads of crisps to Tesco every day.
I don't know what Walkers do but if it's a standard artic with a 44 foot trailer, it will be 26 pallets. The stuff i deliver works out at about 300kg to 500kg per pallet depending on the product, making a full load about eight to thirteen tons plus about 15kg for the actual pallet, adding 400kg ish.
Not heavy then, if they double stack the pallets, double the weights. Far more likely the truck is governed to 56mph.
I don't know what Walkers do but if it's a standard artic with a 44 foot trailer, it will be 26 pallets. The stuff i deliver works out at about 300kg to 500kg per pallet depending on the product, making a full load about eight to thirteen tons plus about 15kg for the actual pallet, adding 400kg ish.
Not heavy then, if they double stack the pallets, double the weights. Far more likely the truck is governed to 56mph.
Must have been the trunk route.
I recall a few years ago there was some guy who instigated a test case regarding lorry size, there was a maximum weight but not size, and since it was full of crisps he stuck a longer trailer on it.
Daily wail link http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1232510/Br...
His argument was that light loads like crisps and bog roll could and should be loaded on to super sized lorries; they'd still weigh 44 tonnes loaded.
Options as I see it. 1. Lorry was full of crisps and light weight; driver being a cock
2. Driver was on cruise control, or a limited speed; weight was not an issue
3. It was heavily laden with a back load of steel beams or something as he'd delivered the light weight boxes of crisps.
I recall a few years ago there was some guy who instigated a test case regarding lorry size, there was a maximum weight but not size, and since it was full of crisps he stuck a longer trailer on it.
Daily wail link http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1232510/Br...
His argument was that light loads like crisps and bog roll could and should be loaded on to super sized lorries; they'd still weigh 44 tonnes loaded.
Options as I see it. 1. Lorry was full of crisps and light weight; driver being a cock
2. Driver was on cruise control, or a limited speed; weight was not an issue
3. It was heavily laden with a back load of steel beams or something as he'd delivered the light weight boxes of crisps.
Eddie Strohacker said:
I run a business that amongst other things delivers artic loads of crisps to Tesco every day.
I don't know what Walkers do but if it's a standard artic with a 44 foot trailer, it will be 26 pallets. The stuff i deliver works out at about 300kg to 500kg per pallet depending on the product, making a full load about eight to thirteen tons plus about 15kg for the actual pallet, adding 400kg ish.
Not heavy then, if they double stack the pallets, double the weights. Far more likely the truck is governed to 56mph.
A google of the Walkers boxes shows a couple of sizes, ie, 40 x 25g (1kg) boxes or 48 x 32.5 (1.56kg) boxes. Would you get that many boxes on to a pallet?I don't know what Walkers do but if it's a standard artic with a 44 foot trailer, it will be 26 pallets. The stuff i deliver works out at about 300kg to 500kg per pallet depending on the product, making a full load about eight to thirteen tons plus about 15kg for the actual pallet, adding 400kg ish.
Not heavy then, if they double stack the pallets, double the weights. Far more likely the truck is governed to 56mph.
bobtail4x4 said:
this evening we followed a Walkers crisp artic up the A1, he pulled out for a couple of miles of "elephant racing" as we were half a mile from our junction I tucked in behind the truck he was attempting to pass,
my comment that I was suprised he was struggling uphill as he cant be heavily loaded, was met buy my wifes reply that if full he would still be heavy..................
anyone know how many packets in a box? and how many boxes to fill a curtainsider?
I doubt there would be more than a couple of ton even if full.
male pride at stake here chaps.
As a driver of them, he won't have any weight issues, it will simply be that his speed limiter is set slightly faster than the other guy's. If not for the speed limiter he could've flown past him with ease, even up a fairly steep hill. Walkers never have much weight on so he'll have about 40 hp/tonne on tap. An artic running at max weight would typically be around 10 hp/tonne.my comment that I was suprised he was struggling uphill as he cant be heavily loaded, was met buy my wifes reply that if full he would still be heavy..................
anyone know how many packets in a box? and how many boxes to fill a curtainsider?
I doubt there would be more than a couple of ton even if full.
male pride at stake here chaps.
Oakey said:
A google of the Walkers boxes shows a couple of sizes, ie, 40 x 25g (1kg) boxes or 48 x 32.5 (1.56kg) boxes. Would you get that many boxes on to a pallet?
No idea. To me it's all about pallets, I couldn't care less about cases or boxes. However, for info, the constraints are the pallet dimensions which are 1 x 1.2m for the vast majority of warehouses - think GKN blue pallet. Then the platform width of the trailer which will be 2.4m give or take a centimetre & then height of the pallet which boils down to whatever the manufacturer & customer agree is workable & safe to handle, as in would actually fit through the door aperture at the warehouse, fit in the racking etc.
So, your outer case design is a compromise between what will stack squarely on a pallet so that it doesn't shift & crush in transit & what the customer wants in store. Ten years ago, it would have been brown boxes that someone opened & stacked on the shelf. Nowadays, it's all shelf ready packaging where the same shelf stacker simply rips open the front of the case & punters help themselves. Cost savings abound.
There are people whose entire working lives are literally designing this stuff, I just send lorries in to shift the end result from here to there.
What I can say is Walkers distribution is own account, if the truck was backhauling something post delivery, it won't have been steel beams. Spuds maybe, flavourings, packaging whatever, but not anything esoteric.
Edited by Eddie Strohacker on Friday 28th July 10:25
Eddie Strohacker said:
No idea. To me it's all about pallets, I couldn't care less about cases or boxes.
However, for info, the constraints are the pallet dimensions which are 1 x 1.2m for the vast majority of warehouses - think GKN blue pallet. Then the platform width of the trailer which will be 2.4m give or take a centimetre & then height of the pallet which boils down to whatever the manufacturer & customer agree is workable & safe to handle, as in would actually fit through the door aperture at the warehouse, fit in the racking etc.
So, your outer case design is a compromise between what will stack squarely on a pallet so that it doesn't shift & crush in transit & what the customer wants in store. Ten years ago, it would have been brown boxes that someone opened & stacked on the shelf. Nowadays, it's all shelf ready packaging where the same shelf stacker simply rips open the front of the case & punters help themselves. Cost savings abound.
There are people whose entire working lives are literally designing this stuff, I just send lorries in to shift the end result from here to there.
What I can say is Walkers distribution is own account, if the truck was backhauling something post delivery, it won't have been steel beams. Spuds maybe, flavourings, packaging whatever, but not anything esoteric.
come on, we should be able to work this outHowever, for info, the constraints are the pallet dimensions which are 1 x 1.2m for the vast majority of warehouses - think GKN blue pallet. Then the platform width of the trailer which will be 2.4m give or take a centimetre & then height of the pallet which boils down to whatever the manufacturer & customer agree is workable & safe to handle, as in would actually fit through the door aperture at the warehouse, fit in the racking etc.
So, your outer case design is a compromise between what will stack squarely on a pallet so that it doesn't shift & crush in transit & what the customer wants in store. Ten years ago, it would have been brown boxes that someone opened & stacked on the shelf. Nowadays, it's all shelf ready packaging where the same shelf stacker simply rips open the front of the case & punters help themselves. Cost savings abound.
There are people whose entire working lives are literally designing this stuff, I just send lorries in to shift the end result from here to there.
What I can say is Walkers distribution is own account, if the truck was backhauling something post delivery, it won't have been steel beams. Spuds maybe, flavourings, packaging whatever, but not anything esoteric.
Edited by Eddie Strohacker on Friday 28th July 10:25
Dimensions of a 1.7kg box:
Package Dimensions
40 x 32.4 x 30 cm
Oakey said:
come on, we should be able to work this out
Dimensions of a 1.7kg box:
Package Dimensions
40 x 32.4 x 30 cm
I doubt it. You're dealing with an extensive product range that will be packaged in different ways for varying retail formats from plain brown boxes destined for Booker & NISA that will end up in a corner shop to shelf ready packaging for the big four supermarkets & co packed FSDU's to mega catering packs for Sodexo & the like. The best you'll manage is a rough guess. It's an entire world of its own. Dimensions of a 1.7kg box:
Package Dimensions
40 x 32.4 x 30 cm
Walkers might have a low number of individual products, maybe 30 or so, but they'll be divided into well over a hundred skus i would reckon.
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