Dream home 3.3km from HS2 planned route
Discussion
We're very close to exchange for our dream home that's in a rural setting, got a good deal on the house and will not need to move for a very long time (if ever!), fiancée and I both super excited etc
Yesterday the searches came back and the only worry is that the planned HS2 route passes the vicinity (a couple km of track would be around 4km from the house, with the nearest section being 3.3km away) 1 it curves past.
I'm thinking that is sufficient distance for it to not be audible most of the time? We're content to deal with the congestion of the build phase, but would be gutted if we could routinely hear trains passing whilst enjoy a Saturday BBQ!
Give the distances there are lots of trees, hills, a small village etc between the property and proposed track location.
Any thoughts from anyone that knows abit about noise modelling?! Am I right to think this shouldn't be much of an issue?
Yesterday the searches came back and the only worry is that the planned HS2 route passes the vicinity (a couple km of track would be around 4km from the house, with the nearest section being 3.3km away) 1 it curves past.
I'm thinking that is sufficient distance for it to not be audible most of the time? We're content to deal with the congestion of the build phase, but would be gutted if we could routinely hear trains passing whilst enjoy a Saturday BBQ!
Give the distances there are lots of trees, hills, a small village etc between the property and proposed track location.
Any thoughts from anyone that knows abit about noise modelling?! Am I right to think this shouldn't be much of an issue?
Is there a road within a similar distance?
I don't think I've considered a high speed train to ever be noisy. The old clatterbox that runs within 200m of my house is once an hour and not noticeable in the house, but can be of you're in the garden. But none of that is anything compared to the boy racers and motorbikes that use the slightly closer main road.
I don't think I've considered a high speed train to ever be noisy. The old clatterbox that runs within 200m of my house is once an hour and not noticeable in the house, but can be of you're in the garden. But none of that is anything compared to the boy racers and motorbikes that use the slightly closer main road.
Evanivitch said:
Is there a road within a similar distance?
I don't think I've considered a high speed train to ever be noisy. The old clatterbox that runs within 200m of my house is once an hour and not noticeable in the house, but can be of you're in the garden. But none of that is anything compared to the boy racers and motorbikes that use the slightly closer main road.
This - I live 750yrds from the Brighton mainline and the trains are much less intrusive than the boy racers!I don't think I've considered a high speed train to ever be noisy. The old clatterbox that runs within 200m of my house is once an hour and not noticeable in the house, but can be of you're in the garden. But none of that is anything compared to the boy racers and motorbikes that use the slightly closer main road.
Yes, the A road that links the village to the nearest town and motorway is about 750M away (albeit 50mph controlled), and even that is not very imposing on the house (having visited the area a number of times in addition to the viewings).
The HS2 route is another couple KM past that A road.
Gives me some confidence that I was right in thinking minimal impact post completion!
The HS2 route is another couple KM past that A road.
Gives me some confidence that I was right in thinking minimal impact post completion!
3km wouldn't worry me unduly, less intrusive than a motorway. Take a look @ the HS2 map (if you haven't already) It'll show you where it'll run on embankments, in cuttings or through tunnels.
http://interactive-map.hs2.org.uk/
http://interactive-map.hs2.org.uk/
I've recently bought a house about 2km from the M5. I've looked at houses in the past a similar distance from main dual carriageways and been put off by the noise. This one doesn't suffer at all; the topography makes a difference I guess.
Ironically for the first week after moving in the noise of the harvest was quite noticeable overnight but everyone tells you the countryside is louder than town
Ironically for the first week after moving in the noise of the harvest was quite noticeable overnight but everyone tells you the countryside is louder than town
PositronicRay said:
3km wouldn't worry me unduly, less intrusive than a motorway. Take a look @ the HS2 map (if you haven't already) It'll show you where it'll run on embankments, in cuttings or through tunnels.
http://interactive-map.hs2.org.uk/
The search report provides this, and directed me to that link. Within the 4km radius is 95% a cutting, with a couple short (by my approximation less than 100m) sections of embankment, no tunnels in the area. http://interactive-map.hs2.org.uk/
I'm assuming the cuttings would reduce noise propagation the best?
Our house is in a rural village about a mile and a half away as the crow flies from the M1. On a crisp, cold, winter morning it can actually be quite noisy. In the summer it's absolutely silent and you can't hear a thing. Given that the M1 is probably louder than a high speed train and that you only really sit outside and Bbq in the summer, your situation wouldn't worry me.
Jobbo said:
I've recently bought a house about 2km from the M5. I've looked at houses in the past a similar distance from main dual carriageways and been put off by the noise. This one doesn't suffer at all; the topography makes a difference I guess.
Ironically for the first week after moving in the noise of the harvest was quite noticeable overnight but everyone tells you the countryside is louder than town
I live about 3.5 miles from the M5 but it's a raised section that passes Droitwich and I can hear it some nights. It sounds like a constant low level white noise. It's absolutely not intrusive but it's there.Ironically for the first week after moving in the noise of the harvest was quite noticeable overnight but everyone tells you the countryside is louder than town
I used to live next to a clattery train line in Leicestershire. There was an incline for a couple of miles that required 2 massive Deltics to pull the mile-long series of coaches. Now THAT was loud. But after a while, I became used to it and would always prefer trains to a road.
My old office was close to the Birmingham London train route. You could see the Virgin trains from the office but even with the windows open, you couldn't hear them at all.
Crumpet said:
Our house is in a rural village about a mile and a half away as the crow flies from the M1. On a crisp, cold, winter morning it can actually be quite noisy. In the summer it's absolutely silent and you can't hear a thing. Given that the M1 is probably louder than a high speed train and that you only really sit outside and Bbq in the summer, your situation wouldn't worry me.
Close to us is a village 500m from the A46 with some woods in between the two, wintertime, when the trees are bare it's noisy and intrusive at one end of the village, summertime very little. 
At 3.3k I would simply forget about HS2 it will have no impact on you in any way shape or form.
We've just moved from a house that was about 1/3 of a mile away from the proposed route. While we lived there we never gave it a second thought but was a bit miffed when we lost a buyer to it.
A couple of observations
They will never build HS2. As soon as theres some coming to of senses on it they will can it.
During the build phase it will be a pain in the bum but after its been running 3 weeks its just normal.
The area we lived the proposed route is a bit odd as they are bringing it closer to the village than it needed to be IMO but either way other than properties that are right on it (they get compensated pretty well) its a lot of fuss about nowt really.
The people that are worst affected are the ones that are now trapped in their houses unable to sell. We were lucky that the buyer of our house grew up near a railway line so it was normal for them.
We've just moved from a house that was about 1/3 of a mile away from the proposed route. While we lived there we never gave it a second thought but was a bit miffed when we lost a buyer to it.
A couple of observations
They will never build HS2. As soon as theres some coming to of senses on it they will can it.
During the build phase it will be a pain in the bum but after its been running 3 weeks its just normal.
The area we lived the proposed route is a bit odd as they are bringing it closer to the village than it needed to be IMO but either way other than properties that are right on it (they get compensated pretty well) its a lot of fuss about nowt really.
The people that are worst affected are the ones that are now trapped in their houses unable to sell. We were lucky that the buyer of our house grew up near a railway line so it was normal for them.
Find a similar railway and have a look at the distances on here
http://www.extrium.co.uk/noiseviewer.html
http://www.extrium.co.uk/noiseviewer.html
I would be slightly concerned that during the build phase they encounter a problem which means it has to be rerouted, and it comes much closer to your house. Remember, the M4 was originally going to run north of Reading, then they realised they couldn't bridge the Thames just to the west of Tilehurst because of the nature of the ground (too much gravel under the surface), and rerouted it south of the town. Look at the line of the motorway now, and the line of the sections east and west of Reading. Quite a big unintended "loop" south developed.
Other than that, this line will be electric, won't it? High speed electric trains are quite quiet, so 3-4km wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I live less than 1 mile as the crow flies from the GWR mainline, and can only hear trains moderately, late at night.
Other than that, this line will be electric, won't it? High speed electric trains are quite quiet, so 3-4km wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I live less than 1 mile as the crow flies from the GWR mainline, and can only hear trains moderately, late at night.
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