Referenda are best way to make important decisions usually

Referenda are best way to make important decisions usually

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SantaBarbara

Original Poster:

3,244 posts

107 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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Should there now be a referendum to decide on Heathrow expansion?

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

156 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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No.

Murph7355

37,646 posts

255 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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No.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

159 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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One on Hs2 would be nice !! question do we need a pointless vanity project ??
or should we improve rail/tram systems in our major cities , and spend the change on road upgrades and 1st world broadband instead...

don'tbesilly

13,900 posts

162 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
Should there now be a referendum to decide on Heathrow expansion?
Based on the answers not being to your liking, I'd give it another month before trying the same, eventually you might get the answer you wanted.


Wobbegong

15,077 posts

168 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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don'tbesilly said:
SantaBarbara said:
Should there now be a referendum to decide on Heathrow expansion?
Based on the answers not being to your liking, I'd give it another month before trying the same, eventually you might get the answer you wanted.
This isn't the EU

Sheets Tabuer

18,894 posts

214 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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Only if over 80% or the population participate and the result is over 60% in favour/against.

esxste

3,664 posts

105 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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Surely its been proven that inviting the general public to use their gut feelings about subjects most of them are completely uneducated about leads to chaos.




TTwiggy

11,499 posts

203 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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esxste said:
Surely its been proven that inviting the general public to use their gut feelings about subjects most of them are completely uneducated about leads to chaos.
Is pretty much my view of it. And to use an EU analogy, if MPs make silly decisions I can vote them out. If a certain percentage of the public do so I have no such recourse.

s2art

18,937 posts

252 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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esxste said:
Surely its been proven that inviting the general public to use their gut feelings about subjects most of them are completely uneducated about leads to chaos.
Tell the Swiss, I am sure they will be very grateful for your advice.

Murph7355

37,646 posts

255 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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esxste said:
Surely its been proven that inviting the general public to use their gut feelings about subjects most of them are completely uneducated about leads to chaos.
No.

KrissKross

2,182 posts

100 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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esxste said:
Surely its been proven that inviting the general public to use their gut feelings about subjects most of them are completely uneducated about leads to chaos.
What are most politicians educated on, in most cases clearly maths is a problem...

Pan Pan Pan

9,777 posts

110 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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Or we could try the remainerrs way, and hold referendum after referendum until, (and if) the vote result they want is obtained, after which referendums will be completely banned in the UK.
I assume all those who are saying they don't like referenda, definitely don't want another one, on whether or not the UK should remain in the EU/ accept the exit deal etc.. I mean if they did, that would sort of be double standards wouldn't it?

TTwiggy

11,499 posts

203 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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Pan Pan Pan said:
Or we could try the remainerrs way, and hold referendum after referendum until, (and if) the vote result they want is obtained, after which referendums will be completely banned in the UK.
I assume all those who are saying they don't like referenda, definitely don't want another one, on whether or not the UK should remain in the EU/ accept the exit deal etc.. I mean if they did, that would sort of be double standards wouldn't it?
I can't speak for anyone else but my view has always been that there shouldn't be any at all - so, no, this particular 'remoaner' doesn't want another one.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

169 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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The liberals/left don'e even like general elections now, and try to claim the result isn't legitimate or a mandate or by 'enough' of margin.

We've seen this in the USA and the UK recently.

The only vote the liberals/left think is democratic/legitimate is one that they win.

Very worrying times for our freedoms with these types of lunatic views emerging.

TTwiggy

11,499 posts

203 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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There's generalising, and then there's Grimnasty generalising.

Nothingtoseehere

7,379 posts

153 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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TTwiggy said:
There's generalising, and then there's Grimnasty generalising.
Who's always doing the marching?

technodup

7,576 posts

129 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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fk no, just get it built.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

157 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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powerstroke said:
One on Hs2 would be nice !! question do we need a pointless vanity project ??
Do you have any opinion one way or the other?

grumbledoak

31,499 posts

232 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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I think we should have more of them. Simple "Yes" or "No" policy choices. I believe Switzerland does it to some extent.

The idea that the talking heads on the TV know any more or better than the layman is largely a lie. As we saw with so many of the polls recently.