PC censorship vs debate and free speech, worrying trends.

PC censorship vs debate and free speech, worrying trends.

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Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

105 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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chrispmartha said:
I'm talking about individuals and not a group as a whole, you can be a Nazi loving Racist homophobic idiot, it's not illegal nor should it be.

kill someone/beat them up that's illegal.

About these Muslims what would you do to them after your ban?
Are you are really taking that in a serious way ?

chrispmartha

15,458 posts

129 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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KrissKross said:
chrispmartha said:
KrissKross said:
chrispmartha said:
Yes, until they do something illegal they can think whatever they want.
So in your example maybe when people start getting killed, that might be a good time to consider a more serious look at said group, or is that not illegal enough, when should it become illegal to harbour or promote such views?
I'm talking about individuals and not a group as a whole, you can be a Nazi loving Racist homophobic idiot, it's not illegal nor should it be.

kill someone/beat them up that's illegal.

About these Muslims what would you do to them after your ban?
I don't think you read my previous message correctly, or you are being deliberately obtuse. What have Muslims got to do with anything?
You suggested a 'simple' ban on Islam.

I'll ask you for the third time, what would you do to Muslims who continue to practice islam after your simple ban?



KrissKross

2,182 posts

101 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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citizensm1th said:
mind you thats better than o'l KK he changed from treating everyone the same to banning islam in only one post

even for PH that is remarkable
Fair point my bad, it was a moment. No banning..

However if we are going to remain equal, if I put in planning permission for a Nazi HQ in a major city with dedicated architecture, logos, marching (peacefully on Tuesdays) and such like, would it be allowed, if not why not?


chrispmartha

15,458 posts

129 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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KrissKross said:
citizensm1th said:
mind you thats better than o'l KK he changed from treating everyone the same to banning islam in only one post

even for PH that is remarkable
Fair point my bad, it was a moment. No banning..

However if we are going to remain equal, if I put in planning permission for a Nazi HQ in a major city with dedicated architecture, logos, marching (peacefully on Tuesdays) and such like, would it be allowed, if not why not?
Well it could possibly fall under inciting racial hatred act. I'm not sure.

Do you think you should be allowed a Nazi HQ in a major city?

KrissKross

2,182 posts

101 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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chrispmartha said:
Do you think you should be allowed a Nazi HQ in a major city?
Are you unable to answer the question?

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

105 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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citizensm1th said:
you might want to stop drinking in the day. we are talking about the equality of banning one group while championing the rights of another to say what ever they like

i thought you were all for equality only just yesterday

mind you thats better than o'l KK he changed from treating everyone the same to banning islam in only one post

even for PH that is remarkable
I know you want to argue and have a reason to get all upset with me/life, but you are getting a bit tiresome now and are close to getting a large parrot issued. (FYI, my faith does not allow me to drink alcohol)

chrispmartha

15,458 posts

129 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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KrissKross said:
chrispmartha said:
Do you think you should be allowed a Nazi HQ in a major city?
Are you unable to answer the question?
Oh the Irony!!

No I don't think it's appropriate to have a Nazi HQ in a major city and most people would probably agree with me.

You seem for some reason desparate to equate Nazis with Muslims? Is this the case?

chrispmartha

15,458 posts

129 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Stickyfinger said:
citizensm1th said:
you might want to stop drinking in the day. we are talking about the equality of banning one group while championing the rights of another to say what ever they like

i thought you were all for equality only just yesterday

mind you thats better than o'l KK he changed from treating everyone the same to banning islam in only one post

even for PH that is remarkable
I know you want to argue and have a reason to get all upset with me/life, but you are getting a bit tiresome now and are close to getting a large parrot issued. (FYI, my faith does not allow me to drink alcohol)
Which religion do you practice, if you don't mind me asking?

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

105 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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chrispmartha said:
Which religion do you practice, if you don't mind me asking?
I do mind thank you....however in my direct family there are 3 differing faiths

Edited by Stickyfinger on Sunday 20th August 16:42

chrispmartha

15,458 posts

129 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Stickyfinger said:
chrispmartha said:
Which religion do you practice, if you don't mind me asking?
I do mind thank you
Fair enough,

FWIW it wasn't a leading question, just curious.

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

105 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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chrispmartha said:
Fair enough,

FWIW it wasn't a leading question, just curious.
NP....I am hardly "maximum skyfairy" smile.....more a basis for life.


Edited by Stickyfinger on Sunday 20th August 16:45

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

137 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Stickyfinger said:
I know you want to argue and have a reason to get all upset with me/life, but you are getting a bit tiresome now and are close to getting a large parrot issued. (FYI, my faith does not allow me to drink alcohol)
ahhhh hem " nice try CretinouSmith"

play nice and so will i


On the subject of parrots i went to bird world this week it was really good, parrots in free flight id recommend it

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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anonymous said:
[redacted]
The world is being fked very slowly by these people and it's becoming illegal to do anything about it.

Reason has left the building.

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

154 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Mothersruin said:
The world is being fked very slowly by these people and it's becoming illegal to do anything about it.

Reason has left the building.
Some of them are here!

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Stickyfinger said:
I do mind thank you....however in my direct family there are 3 differing faiths

Edited by Stickyfinger on Sunday 20th August 16:42
Why do you mind? You brought your faith into the discussion.

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

105 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Why do you mind? You brought your faith into the discussion.
No, i said why I would not be drinking in the afternoon.


KrissKross

2,182 posts

101 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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chrispmartha said:
No I don't think it's appropriate to have a Nazi HQ in a major city and most people would probably agree with me.
Ok so you don't agree with free speech, unless it is speech about something you agree with, typical..

I could counter and suggest most people if you took a vote would probably agree that building more religious buildings and an increase in certain alien faith/cults is probably a bad thing (not a good thing), most people would probably agree with this statement, if you don't believe me setup a poll or lets have a referendum. I believe in democracy, do you?



Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Stickyfinger said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Why do you mind? You brought your faith into the discussion.
No, i said why I would not be drinking in the afternoon.
Which reason was stated as "your faith", so you did bring faith into the discussion.

Not that I care.

bitchstewie

51,206 posts

210 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Interesting how internet companies, many of whom have fought for some pretty bad dudes right to free speech, are viewing hosting these Nazi's as a step too far

https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/20/16170370/namech...

https://blog.namecheap.com/inciting-violence-vs-fr...

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Nazis are bad bad
Strict Islam is bad good