PC censorship vs debate and free speech, worrying trends.
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citizensm1th said:
well the trump thread is racking up page after page with out your input so i guess a sizeable group of people do not see it your way.
i guess that must eat away at you just a little
Nope,I have no intention of rejoining, just fairly obvious that its been made one sided.i guess that must eat away at you just a little
Sway said:
Einion Yrth said:
It's been a while since Petrol Ted (pbuh) ran this site. Haymarket and Heseltine are no fans of free speech.
Have to say, it's a far cry from a gentle "raise the bar chaps" nudging things back in line quite effectively.rscott said:
Sway said:
Einion Yrth said:
It's been a while since Petrol Ted (pbuh) ran this site. Haymarket and Heseltine are no fans of free speech.
Have to say, it's a far cry from a gentle "raise the bar chaps" nudging things back in line quite effectively.B'sides, they like getting barred - it gives them something else to bleat about.
<re-reads first post>
Yup.
There's free speech on one hand and there's an obsessive dominating a thread on the other. If that's allowed to happen you get an echo chamber as the moderate voices don't visit any more.
IMO that ruins PH for all.
(ETA: Sorry, not directly related to the OP, but more other posts.)
IMO that ruins PH for all.
(ETA: Sorry, not directly related to the OP, but more other posts.)
Edited by Bill on Thursday 17th August 20:59
Bill said:
There's free speech on one hand and there's an obsessive dominating a thread on the other. If that's allowed to happen you get an echo chamber as the moderate voices don't visit any more.
IMO that ruins PH for all.
There are other threads; like at speakers' corner you wander away from the freaks, lunatics and obsessives.IMO that ruins PH for all.
Only very rarely do they get carted off in straitjackets.
Freedom of speech is not absolute in that you are not free say everything you may wish to.
When thoughts and opinions are provided in a more robust medium than hearsay, the evidence is more obvious should there be any transgression of that permitted by the consensual agreement that the populace has made with our parliament and written into law.
When thoughts and opinions are provided in a more robust medium than hearsay, the evidence is more obvious should there be any transgression of that permitted by the consensual agreement that the populace has made with our parliament and written into law.
Einion Yrth said:
Ali G said:
Freedom of speech is not absolute.
Freedom is indivisible; if there are any limits on speech it is no longer free; you may agree with such limitations, that's fine, but it also means that, by definition, speech is not free,Einion Yrth said:
There are other threads; like at speakers' corner you wander away from the freaks, lunatics and obsessives.
Only very rarely do they get carted off in straitjackets.
This is more like a pub than speakers' corner, and if someone kept taking over conversations they'd be barred PDQ.Only very rarely do they get carted off in straitjackets.
Ali G said:
Einion Yrth said:
Ali G said:
Freedom of speech is not absolute.
Freedom is indivisible; if there are any limits on speech it is no longer free; you may agree with such limitations, that's fine, but it also means that, by definition, speech is not free,citizensm1th said:
well the trump thread is racking up page after page with out your input so i guess a sizeable group of people do not see it your way.
Well half of it is Eric so not as many people as you'd think. I think most people see that thread as the definition of a circle jerk given the lack of opposing voices, which isn't exactly down to everyone agreeing with the content.
Bill said:
Einion Yrth said:
There are other threads; like at speakers' corner you wander away from the freaks, lunatics and obsessives.
Only very rarely do they get carted off in straitjackets.
This is more like a pub than speakers' corner, and if someone kept taking over conversations they'd be barred PDQ.Only very rarely do they get carted off in straitjackets.
Bill said:
Einion Yrth said:
There are other threads; like at speakers' corner you wander away from the freaks, lunatics and obsessives.
Only very rarely do they get carted off in straitjackets.
This is more like a pub than speakers' corner, and if someone kept taking over conversations they'd be barred PDQ.Only very rarely do they get carted off in straitjackets.
Outside of universities there is no place to properly share your own free speech as it's all privately owned businesses that may do as they wish. They may turn off your account if they don't like it.
The problem now is even universities will shut down those with an unlikeable view point if pressured enough. Activist groups have wised up to it, they only need to mildly suggest a riot and the uni will shut it down on safety concerns.
The problem now is even universities will shut down those with an unlikeable view point if pressured enough. Activist groups have wised up to it, they only need to mildly suggest a riot and the uni will shut it down on safety concerns.
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