PC censorship vs debate and free speech, worrying trends.

[chrispmartha]

Einion Yrth said:

chrispmartha said:

Jonesy23 said:

I think you're a .

(Now just work out who that's intended for...)

Why not just say who you're calling a ?

It's fairly obvious; but by leaving some essential "plausible deniability" he may evade the ban hammer.

So my point stands, say/write what you actually think, don't moan about what might happen have the courage of your conviction

[Oilchange]

I would say the place where speech is 'most' free is the Houses of Parliament, providing you are an MP. You can say an awful lot in there that would get you strung up, legally, elsewhere.

Einion Yrth said:

Ali G said:

Einion Yrth said:

Ali G said:

Freedom of speech is not absolute.

Freedom is indivisible; if there are any limits on speech it is no longer free; you may agree with such limitations, that's fine, but it also means that, by definition, speech is not free,

Speech is not free and in fact can be fairly costly depending upon what was said and who heard.

Glad you acknowledge it.

[Jonesy23]

It was actually a joke based on a thing someone I knew did - when asked by his boss to say what he thought he came out with 'I think you're a '

Funnily enough I thought if I came out with that as a bald statement someone might get the wrong idea.

[Einion Yrth]

chrispmartha said:

Einion Yrth said:

chrispmartha said:

Jonesy23 said:

I think you're a .

(Now just work out who that's intended for...)

Why not just say who you're calling a ?

It's fairly obvious; but by leaving some essential "plausible deniability" he may evade the ban hammer.

So my point stands, say/write what you actually think, don't moan about what might happen have the courage of your conviction

Perhaps he doesn't want to be banned? The mods have already demonstrated their, shall we say "hair trigger" tendencies, why should he risk their ire for the small pleasure of insulting a total non-entity?

[voyds9]

Thorodin said:

In the current news the resignation of Sarah Champion, an excellent MP, wasn't a resignation. It was a constructive dismissal because of, in her words, '...the offence caused by the extremely poor choice of words..' (in my view they were extremely accurate words and long overdue). The great leader Corbyn demanded her resignation because he feared the party might lose thousands of votes in her Labour constituency. So PC culture is in fact political expediency which from an alleged democrat is disgusting. But you won't hear that on our national favourite TV channel.

Edited by Thorodin on Thursday 17th August 20:07

You would have thought that after being elected in 2012 and waiting until 2017 to speak out that she would have had enough time to get the words correct.

[chrispmartha]

Einion Yrth said:

chrispmartha said:

Einion Yrth said:

chrispmartha said:

Jonesy23 said:

I think you're a .

(Now just work out who that's intended for...)

Why not just say who you're calling a ?

It's fairly obvious; but by leaving some essential "plausible deniability" he may evade the ban hammer.

So my point stands, say/write what you actually think, don't moan about what might happen have the courage of your conviction

Perhaps he doesn't want to be banned? The mods have already demonstrated their, shall we say "hair trigger" tendencies, why should he risk their ire for the small pleasure of insulting a total non-entity?

So why bother posting on a thread such as this, hes either bothered or he isn't, if he is bothered, post what he thinks he can't say to prove it, if he isn't bothered, well, why post about it?

[Jonesy23]

Look above. /|\

[Funkycoldribena]

chrispmartha said:

So why bother posting on a thread such as this, hes either bothered or he isn't, if he is bothered, post what he thinks he can't say to prove it, if he isn't bothered, well, why post about it?

You're starting to turn into Donald Rumsfeld.

[Jonesy23]

This is hard work.

You make a joke (of sorts) that no one gets, you explain it, no-one notices.

[chrispmartha]

Funkycoldribena said:

chrispmartha said:

So why bother posting on a thread such as this, hes either bothered or he isn't, if he is bothered, post what he thinks he can't say to prove it, if he isn't bothered, well, why post about it?

You're starting to turn into Donald Rumsfeld.

Just post your views, society and private businesses such as Haymarket will decide whether its appropriate

[Jonesy23]

The problem is often you get some humourless sort kicking off about what they think was said not what was actually said.

Then you end up with a reaction to get a quiet life regardless of whether the original statement was 'appropriate' or not.

I think more often than not what annoys people is the way a small but noisy mob controls what is 'acceptable' rather than the more general right of a company to decide what appears on its platform. Note: This isn't a statement about PH, but a wider thing as it affects press & social media platforms too.

[Funkycoldribena]

chrispmartha said:

Just post your views, society and private businesses such as Haymarket will decide whether its appropriate

Give me a subject.

[eldar]

Funkycoldribena said:

Give me a subject.

Using emulsion paint for a car?

[Funkycoldribena]

eldar said:

Using emulsion paint for a car?

Gloss is better you &%£%& dip@#@#.

[Ali G]

Funkycoldribena said:

Give me a subject.

The laws which govern the freedom to speak and write, and the consequences of any breech in the laws which govern the freedom to speak and write.

[Lance Catamaran]

Funkycoldribena said:

chrispmartha said:

Just post your views, society and private businesses such as Haymarket will decide whether its appropriate

Give me a subject.

Try posting on the Game of Thrones thread before 9pm on a Monday

[Funkycoldribena]

Ali G said:

The laws which govern the freedom to speak and write, and the consequences of any breech in the laws which govern the freedom to speak and write.

The laws an ass.

[Funkycoldribena]

Lance Catamaran said:

Try posting on the Game of Thrones thread before 9pm on a Monday

I ain't gotta death wish.

[Ali G]

Funkycoldribena said:

Ali G said:

The laws which govern the freedom to speak and write, and the consequences of any breech in the laws which govern the freedom to speak and write.

The laws an ass.

The law (which is Our law under which we agree to be governed by) is not perfect, and can be modified.

[spaximus]

voyds9 said:

Thorodin said:

In the current news the resignation of Sarah Champion, an excellent MP, wasn't a resignation. It was a constructive dismissal because of, in her words, '...the offence caused by the extremely poor choice of words..' (in my view they were extremely accurate words and long overdue). The great leader Corbyn demanded her resignation because he feared the party might lose thousands of votes in her Labour constituency. So PC culture is in fact political expediency which from an alleged democrat is disgusting. But you won't hear that on our national favourite TV channel.

Edited by Thorodin on Thursday 17th August 20:07

You would have thought that after being elected in 2012 and waiting until 2017 to speak out that she would have had enough time to get the words correct.

She got the words spot on in her article, unfortunately for her the frenzy on Twitter and Facebook whipped it up that she was just being racist. This was not in line with Labour dictate that you must never say anything against any minority group, even if the evidence seems true.