45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3

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Byker28i

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ferrisbueller said:
Greg66 said:
ferrisbueller said:
Perhaps that potential inference could be avoided by carrying out an investigation prior to removal?
That's not really the point, or an answer to the point.

Byker hoped you had a good lawyer; you asked why because you thought you were just repeating an established sequence of factual events.

Byker's hope - as I assume you realised - was based on the view that you'd gone beyond the factual events and were attributing motive and conduct to the Clintons which was dishonest and unlawful - hence potentially your statement was defamatory of them, you might therefore need a lawyer etc.

The meaning to be taken from a statement you make now can't be changed by saying "but if things had gone differently in the past".
TBH, you've lost me. I've repeated what many others have said in various places as a brief google would reveal. Definitive detailed facts are all but impossible to come by which I guess leaves things open to (mis)interpretation based on what can be seen and the set of circumstances as recorded - whether that documentation is accurate or not then comes back to my question about where one should seek the truth. Anything can be edited or quoted in any way to make it look one way or another depending on your bias. What is fact is that the accused was acquitted. He had already lost his job and been embroiled in a legal process so who knows what other losses he suffered in terms of health etc.

Tangentially, I also think there's a clear differentiation to be made between dishonest and unlawful. It appears in various arenas you can be as immoral as you like, it won't necessarily ultimately be deemed to be unlawful.
You made allegations that the clintons had gone out their way to fire the staff to give jobs to family. It doesn't matter others have made this as you didn't link to it, but you made those allegations.
When the truth is they found jobs for 5 others fired and allowed one to resign when the travel was outsourced to save $200k, allegedly.

Now if you'd brought the story forward for discussion, that's fine, but you made distinct allegations.

Byker28i

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Oh and follow the guardian link I posted earlier and your find detailed distinct facts, you said were missing, including the investigation into clintons involvements.

Big Al.

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