45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3

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Eric Mc

121,994 posts

265 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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As long as you didn't drink the meths.

AreOut

3,658 posts

161 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Eric Mc said:
The problem at the moment in the US is that those who want to support Republican candidates are being offered some extremely dubious characters as their potential representatives. It's a real dilemma for them to consider. Do they swallow any sense of ethics and morals , hold their noses and just go ahead and vote for these individuals?

Or do they "do the right thing" and either vote for an alternative or not vote at all?
it's not about candidate personality, people had 15 candidates to choose from in primaries and they chose Trump, certainly not because of his personality




Eric Mc

121,994 posts

265 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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AreOut said:
it's not about candidate personality, people had 15 candidates to choose from in primaries and they chose Trump, certainly not because of his personality
I'm not specifically talking about Trump. Various Republican candidates who are currently standing for election (such as Moore) are proving to be of extremely dubious character.

Trump is amazingly silent about these people. He is quick to point out flaws and weaknesses in people who he doesn't agree with politically but extremely reluctant to offer his opinion about those who are, in theory anyway, on the same political side as him.

There is also a fatal weakness in his position in that he can't condemn others for sexual misdemeanours without drawing attention to his own.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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schmunk said:
AreOut said:
It's clear that some of the top DNC people and those surrounding it are obsessed with very creepy things like... ..."spirit cooking".

It's very unsettling for any person with an ounce of empathy.
I used to do that in my Duke of Edinburgh Award hikes, with a Trangia. I didn't realise it was creepy.

Still got mine. Drank the Meths though.

AreOut

3,658 posts

161 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Eric Mc said:
There is also a fatal weakness in his position in that he can't condemn others for sexual misdemeanours without drawing attention to his own.
among powerful people very rare are those who hadn't any sexual misdemeanours (by the criteria that grabbing crotch of a girl who lets you do so and throws herself at you is a sexual misdemeanour)

Maybe Pence who is never alone with another woman if it's not his wife. I'm not sure if you'd prefer Pence to be POTUS though.

_dobbo_

14,372 posts

248 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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AreOut said:
(by the criteria that grabbing crotch of a girl who lets you do so and throws herself at you is a sexual misdemeanour).
Ah so they threw themselves at trump and let him do it? I didn't know that detail had come out. Oh wait, it hasn't.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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AreOut said:
Zod said:
substantiate that or withdraw it.
https://www.sott.net/article/334002-Progressive-liberal-values-Tony-Podestas-creepy-taste-in-art-the-creepy-people-he-hangs-out-with-and-Pizzagate

now I don't claim this whole article is truth (I haven't even read it all), but pictures are real

they(DNC/soros people) are into some weird st whether you want to accept it or not
Posting another article of bullst about the made-up pizzagate is not substantiation. You might find it titillating, but it is a load of rubbish.

Byker28i

59,720 posts

217 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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_dobbo_ said:
AreOut said:
(by the criteria that grabbing crotch of a girl who lets you do so and throws herself at you is a sexual misdemeanour).
Ah so they threw themselves at trump and let him do it? I didn't know that detail had come out. Oh wait, it hasn't.
Trumps Lawyers defence? "They were gagging for it..." ?

From a previous post

...he's had 16? women claim he sexually abused them, 3 claims of rape of attempted rape.

Lets not forget that a lawsuit claimed that in 1994, Trump took a 13-year-old girl to a party with Jeffrey Epstein, a billionaire who was a notorious registered sex offender, and raped her that night in what was a "savage sexual attack," according to a lawsuit filed in June 2016 by "Jane Doe." The account was corroborated by a witness in the suit, who claimed to have watched as the child performed various sexual acts on Trump and Epstein even after the two were advised she was a minor.

"Immediately following this rape Defendant Trump threatened me that, were I ever to reveal any of the details of Defendant Trump’s sexual and physical abuse of me, my family and I would be physically harmed if not killed," Jane Doe wrote in the lawsuit, filed in New York.
The lawsuit was dropped in November 2016, just four days before the election, with Jane Doe's attorneys citing "numerous threats" against her.

Ivana Trump claimed he raped her. Michel Cohen, his lawyer said "By the very definition, you can't rape your spouse."

Jill Harth and her claims of attempted rape in Mar-a-Lago and and groped her without her consent on several occasions.

None of those came across as throwing themselves at Trump, far from it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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AreOut said:
among powerful people very rare are those who hadn't any sexual misdemeanours (by the criteria that grabbing crotch of a girl who lets you do so and throws herself at you is a sexual misdemeanour)
You are Morrissey AICMFP

BlackFlag

99 posts

77 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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AreOut said:
Eric Mc said:
The problem at the moment in the US is that those who want to support Republican candidates are being offered some extremely dubious characters as their potential representatives. It's a real dilemma for them to consider. Do they swallow any sense of ethics and morals , hold their noses and just go ahead and vote for these individuals?

Or do they "do the right thing" and either vote for an alternative or not vote at all?
it's not about candidate personality, people had 15 candidates to choose from in primaries and they chose Trump, certainly not because of his personality
They chose him because the establishment choices were not viable and no one votes third party, as third party candidate messaging is blacked out by the corporate stenographers, er ... press.

I also think Wikileaks played a large role. The information provided on the corruption in the Clinton campaign and Dem party was staggering in breadth and invaluable to voters. I do hope we find out who leaked the info. at some point. All signs point to a morally upstanding insider.

Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

86 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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AreOut said:
among powerful people very rare are those who hadn't any sexual misdemeanours (by the criteria that grabbing crotch of a girl who lets you do so and throws herself at you is a sexual misdemeanour)

Maybe Pence who is never alone with another woman if it's not his wife. I'm not sure if you'd prefer Pence to be POTUS though.
They all do that, Sir is not a convincing line of thought on a motoring website.

Byker28i

59,720 posts

217 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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BlackFlag said:
AreOut said:
Eric Mc said:
The problem at the moment in the US is that those who want to support Republican candidates are being offered some extremely dubious characters as their potential representatives. It's a real dilemma for them to consider. Do they swallow any sense of ethics and morals , hold their noses and just go ahead and vote for these individuals?

Or do they "do the right thing" and either vote for an alternative or not vote at all?
it's not about candidate personality, people had 15 candidates to choose from in primaries and they chose Trump, certainly not because of his personality
They chose him because the establishment choices were not viable and no one votes third party, as third party candidate messaging is blacked out by the corporate stenographers, er ... press.

I also think Wikileaks played a large role. The information provided on the corruption in the Clinton campaign and Dem party was staggering in breadth and invaluable to voters. I do hope we find out who leaked the info. at some point. All signs point to a morally upstanding insider.
All signs point to russian hacking, with input from the trump campaign, Kushner, Trump Jr, Carter PAge, Stone...

BlackFlag

99 posts

77 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Byker28i said:
BlackFlag said:
AreOut said:
Eric Mc said:
The problem at the moment in the US is that those who want to support Republican candidates are being offered some extremely dubious characters as their potential representatives. It's a real dilemma for them to consider. Do they swallow any sense of ethics and morals , hold their noses and just go ahead and vote for these individuals?

Or do they "do the right thing" and either vote for an alternative or not vote at all?
it's not about candidate personality, people had 15 candidates to choose from in primaries and they chose Trump, certainly not because of his personality
They chose him because the establishment choices were not viable and no one votes third party, as third party candidate messaging is blacked out by the corporate stenographers, er ... press.

I also think Wikileaks played a large role. The information provided on the corruption in the Clinton campaign and Dem party was staggering in breadth and invaluable to voters. I do hope we find out who leaked the info. at some point. All signs point to a morally upstanding insider.
All signs point to russian hacking, with input from the trump campaign, Kushner, Trump Jr, Carter PAge, Stone...
Data speeds too slow for a hack, among other things.

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-rai...

In time, this too will be tied back to the DNC just like nearly everything else involving supposedly nefarious Russians.

Seventy

5,500 posts

138 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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AreOut said:
by the criteria that grabbing crotch of a girl who lets you do so and throws herself at you is a sexual misdemeanour
Is this you?

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/361158-...

By the way I think you have some problems.

p1stonhead

25,540 posts

167 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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AreOut said:
Eric Mc said:
There is also a fatal weakness in his position in that he can't condemn others for sexual misdemeanours without drawing attention to his own.
among powerful people very rare are those who hadn't any sexual misdemeanours (by the criteria that grabbing crotch of a girl who lets you do so and throws herself at you is a sexual misdemeanour)
And there it is.

Trump saying 'when you're famous, they let you do anything' is NOT the same as consent. It means he used his power to assault them.

Actually it probably does mean consent to someone with the same moral code as Trump.

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Byker28i said:
Trumps Lawyers defence? "They were gagging for it..." ?

From a previous post

...he's had 16? women claim he sexually abused them, 3 claims of rape of attempted rape.

Lets not forget that a lawsuit claimed that in 1994, Trump took a 13-year-old girl to a party with Jeffrey Epstein, a billionaire who was a notorious registered sex offender, and raped her that night in what was a "savage sexual attack," according to a lawsuit filed in June 2016 by "Jane Doe." The account was corroborated by a witness in the suit, who claimed to have watched as the child performed various sexual acts on Trump and Epstein even after the two were advised she was a minor.

"Immediately following this rape Defendant Trump threatened me that, were I ever to reveal any of the details of Defendant Trump’s sexual and physical abuse of me, my family and I would be physically harmed if not killed," Jane Doe wrote in the lawsuit, filed in New York.
The lawsuit was dropped in November 2016, just four days before the election, with Jane Doe's attorneys citing "numerous threats" against her.

Ivana Trump claimed he raped her. Michel Cohen, his lawyer said "By the very definition, you can't rape your spouse."

Jill Harth and her claims of attempted rape in Mar-a-Lago and and groped her without her consent on several occasions.

None of those came across as throwing themselves at Trump, far from it.
Forgot Trump had been to the paedo island.
No surprise Epstein pretty much got away with it.

Byker28i

59,720 posts

217 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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BlackFlag said:
Byker28i said:
BlackFlag said:
AreOut said:
Eric Mc said:
The problem at the moment in the US is that those who want to support Republican candidates are being offered some extremely dubious characters as their potential representatives. It's a real dilemma for them to consider. Do they swallow any sense of ethics and morals , hold their noses and just go ahead and vote for these individuals?

Or do they "do the right thing" and either vote for an alternative or not vote at all?
it's not about candidate personality, people had 15 candidates to choose from in primaries and they chose Trump, certainly not because of his personality
They chose him because the establishment choices were not viable and no one votes third party, as third party candidate messaging is blacked out by the corporate stenographers, er ... press.

I also think Wikileaks played a large role. The information provided on the corruption in the Clinton campaign and Dem party was staggering in breadth and invaluable to voters. I do hope we find out who leaked the info. at some point. All signs point to a morally upstanding insider.
All signs point to russian hacking, with input from the trump campaign, Kushner, Trump Jr, Carter PAge, Stone...
Data speeds too slow for a hack, among other things.

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-rai...

In time, this too will be tied back to the DNC just like nearly everything else involving supposedly nefarious Russians.
You do know that Trump demanded that the intelligence services meet with the so called expert claiming this, and still say that it was the Russians who did this... along with all those connections back to the Trump administration

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/07/politics/mike-po...

You need to keep up with the debunking of all your conspiracy theories...

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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BlackFlag said:
Data speeds too slow for a hack, among other things.

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-rai...

In time, this too will be tied back to the DNC just like nearly everything else involving supposedly nefarious Russians.
Leak, hack, snail mail, here you go Comrade, have some dirt.

Don't know enough about servers to ascertain speed however IF it were the Russians, you don't need to be in Russia. And paying someone for a data stick, that can work.

Byker28i

59,720 posts

217 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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jmorgan said:
BlackFlag said:
Data speeds too slow for a hack, among other things.

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-rai...

In time, this too will be tied back to the DNC just like nearly everything else involving supposedly nefarious Russians.
Leak, hack, snail mail, here you go Comrade, have some dirt.

Don't know enough about servers to ascertain speed however IF it were the Russians, you don't need to be in Russia. And paying someone for a data stick, that can work.
Already been debunked by the intelligence agencies after The donald insisted they met 'the expert'.

I'm wondering who this new account is the resurrection of...

Seventy

5,500 posts

138 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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BlackFlag said:
Data speeds too slow for a hack, among other things.

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-rai...

In time, this too will be tied back to the DNC just like nearly everything else involving supposedly nefarious Russians.
Welcome back Scherzkeks wavey
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