Aung San Suu Kyi/Myanmar/Rohingya
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Sad to see what is happening in Burma at the moment. And the Nobel laureate Aung San Suu Kyi, Myanmar's de facto civilian leader, not only remains silent on the issue but actually encourages the military to act in the manner it does.
IN HER 2012 Nobel lecture, Burma’s de-facto leader, Aung San Suu Kyi, made an impassioned appeal to the world not to forget those who are suffering “hunger, disease, displacement, joblessness, poverty, injustice, discrimination, prejudice, bigotry” and war. Aung San Suu Kyi declared, “Wherever suffering is ignored, there will be the seeds of conflict, for suffering degrades and embitters and enrages.” Today in Burma, also known as Myanmar, the truth of her words is becoming ever more apparent in the spiral of violence and suffering of the long-persecuted Rohingya Muslim minority. After years of being denigrated as outsiders by the Buddhist majority, denied basic rights, stuck in miserable camps and subjected to harsh military campaigns, the Rohingya are embittered, and some are enraged.
Myanmar violence: Aung San Suu Kyi under pressure as Muslim Rohingya crisis continues
The UN's special rapporteur on human rights in Myanmar has criticised the country's de facto leader, Aung San Suu Kyi, for failing to protect the Rohingya Muslim minority. Yanghee Lee said the situation in Rakhine was "really grave" and it was time for Ms Suu Kyi to "step in". Her comments came as the number of Rohingya fleeing to Bangladesh reached 87,000, according to UN estimates.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_people
IN HER 2012 Nobel lecture, Burma’s de-facto leader, Aung San Suu Kyi, made an impassioned appeal to the world not to forget those who are suffering “hunger, disease, displacement, joblessness, poverty, injustice, discrimination, prejudice, bigotry” and war. Aung San Suu Kyi declared, “Wherever suffering is ignored, there will be the seeds of conflict, for suffering degrades and embitters and enrages.” Today in Burma, also known as Myanmar, the truth of her words is becoming ever more apparent in the spiral of violence and suffering of the long-persecuted Rohingya Muslim minority. After years of being denigrated as outsiders by the Buddhist majority, denied basic rights, stuck in miserable camps and subjected to harsh military campaigns, the Rohingya are embittered, and some are enraged.
Myanmar violence: Aung San Suu Kyi under pressure as Muslim Rohingya crisis continues
The UN's special rapporteur on human rights in Myanmar has criticised the country's de facto leader, Aung San Suu Kyi, for failing to protect the Rohingya Muslim minority. Yanghee Lee said the situation in Rakhine was "really grave" and it was time for Ms Suu Kyi to "step in". Her comments came as the number of Rohingya fleeing to Bangladesh reached 87,000, according to UN estimates.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_people
Dr Solomon said:
Absolutely horrifying what is going on there and utterly disgusting that more people are not speaking up about it and/or to 'condemn' it and two-faced hypocritical Suu Kyi.
I half-heard (alarm had just gone off, so wasn't fully compos mentis) a piece on the radio this morning suggesting she was blaming the Rohingya for the violence and "fake news" for the way it is being reported.Edited by Dr Solomon on Wednesday 6th September 17:18
Why did anyone ever believe she was a nice person? Her non-existent relationship with her husband and children wasn't a good sign for a start.
Strip it down and it was basically a years long chase for political power because her daddy used to be in charge and everything else was secondary. Any morality was sacrificed to that.
Strip it down and it was basically a years long chase for political power because her daddy used to be in charge and everything else was secondary. Any morality was sacrificed to that.
One cannot help but wonder if the religious leanings of the persecuted might be having an affect on the level of World Wide condemnation.
Added to that with so many other 'big news' issues closer to the 1st World's home (NK, Trump, Weather, Brexit for a start) not many are interested in the fate of a few hundred thousand in a country that they would struggle to point out on a globe, if even get within 500 miles of.
In short if you are the dictator of a tin pot military state a bit off the beaten track today is a good day to be burying your problems...
Added to that with so many other 'big news' issues closer to the 1st World's home (NK, Trump, Weather, Brexit for a start) not many are interested in the fate of a few hundred thousand in a country that they would struggle to point out on a globe, if even get within 500 miles of.
In short if you are the dictator of a tin pot military state a bit off the beaten track today is a good day to be burying your problems...
Jonesy23 said:
One thing it is handy for is showing that (contrary to popular perception) Buddhists are just as violent, intolerant and capable of atrocity as any other group.
People are people regardless of their choice or lack of religion. The label just helps to work out which side you're on.
An interesting piece on the extremist Buddhist monks here.People are people regardless of their choice or lack of religion. The label just helps to work out which side you're on.
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/08/31/the-hatefu...
This guy in particular is one of the most infamous ones.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...
Having said all of that, Myanmar does have a terrorist problem with a small section of the Rohingya community.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arakan_Rohingya_Sa...
Holy crap! 270K now
Virtually nothing in the news about. Trump farts & Twitter explodes.
FFS.
That said, I guess the weather is a bit mental at the moment.
Still, land mines on the border?
I thought Buddhists were all about peace & wellbeing.
Virtually nothing in the news about. Trump farts & Twitter explodes.
FFS.
That said, I guess the weather is a bit mental at the moment.
Still, land mines on the border?
BlackLabel said:
"Why are they so resented by their Burmese neighbours? Largely because, in 1942, when many Arakanese Buddhists sided with the invading Japanese, the Rohingya stayed loyal to Britain."I thought Buddhists were all about peace & wellbeing.
TonyToniTone said:
Smiler. said:
It has been on all the news channels.I only listen to R4, which is why I would have expected to hear more about it. It wasn't even mentioned on the last news bulletin.
Mothersruin said:
So they're saying its Rohingya islamic extremists who attacked the Police and authorities who have in turn gone biblical in retaliation.
So it's like the rest of the world without the end bit.
Can I suggest you read up a lot more about what's going on before making such ar5ewipe comments ?So it's like the rest of the world without the end bit.
Countdown said:
Mothersruin said:
So they're saying its Rohingya islamic extremists who attacked the Police and authorities who have in turn gone biblical in retaliation.
So it's like the rest of the world without the end bit.
Can I suggest you read up a lot more about what's going on before making such ar5ewipe comments ?So it's like the rest of the world without the end bit.
Also, everywhere I look, the thing that kicks off any incident has the Rohingya as the initial protagonists - admittedly the response is out of proportion and it then escalates.
What's different?
Edited by Mothersruin on Saturday 9th September 19:28
Mothersruin said:
Sorry, was going what the report on R4 said.
Also, everywhere I look, the thing that kicks off any incident has the Rohingya as the initial protagonists - admittedly the response is out of proportion and it then escalates.
What's different?
Could you point towards any links which show the Rohingya as being the "protagonists"?Also, everywhere I look, the thing that kicks off any incident has the Rohingya as the initial protagonists - admittedly the response is out of proportion and it then escalates.
What's different?
Edited by Mothersruin on Saturday 9th September 19:28
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Musli...
The Burmese are now mining villages so that the refugees don't return.
Beeb said:
Those who have fled northern Rakhine state describe village burnings, beatings and killings at the hands of the security forces and Buddhist youths.
The Myanmar government says it is the Rohingya militants and the Muslim villagers themselves who are burning their own homes and attacking non-Muslims - many of whom have also fled the violence.
But a BBC reporter in Rakhine state on Thursday saw a Muslim village being burned, apparently by a group of Rakhine Buddhists, contradicting the official version of events.
Also on Saturday, rights group Amnesty International accused Myanmar's military of planting landmines at the border with Bangladesh, where many Rohingya are fleeing.
Bangladeshi border guards and villagers have told the BBC that they witnessed more than a hundred Myanmar soldiers walking by and apparently planting landmines at the border.
Bangladeshi officials have said they believe Myanmar government forces are planting the landmines to stop the Rohingya returning to their villages. They have summoned the Myanmar ambassador in Dhaka to protest over the matter.
A Myanmar military source said no landmines had been planted recently, while a government spokesman told Reuters more information was needed, adding: "Who can surely say those mines were not laid by the terrorists?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41214057The Myanmar government says it is the Rohingya militants and the Muslim villagers themselves who are burning their own homes and attacking non-Muslims - many of whom have also fled the violence.
But a BBC reporter in Rakhine state on Thursday saw a Muslim village being burned, apparently by a group of Rakhine Buddhists, contradicting the official version of events.
Also on Saturday, rights group Amnesty International accused Myanmar's military of planting landmines at the border with Bangladesh, where many Rohingya are fleeing.
Bangladeshi border guards and villagers have told the BBC that they witnessed more than a hundred Myanmar soldiers walking by and apparently planting landmines at the border.
Bangladeshi officials have said they believe Myanmar government forces are planting the landmines to stop the Rohingya returning to their villages. They have summoned the Myanmar ambassador in Dhaka to protest over the matter.
A Myanmar military source said no landmines had been planted recently, while a government spokesman told Reuters more information was needed, adding: "Who can surely say those mines were not laid by the terrorists?
If you want to use wiki - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_insurgency_...
Here's how it looks to me.
Rakine people live on the western side of Burma in their own area and harmonious with Burma as a whole - this area is mostly Buddhist with a few pockets of other religions.
There's then a huge influx of people from the West (Bengal) that threaten their way of life due to significant religious & cultural differences - these people then become the majority, want land annexed and start kicking off big style when they don't get their way.
Maybe I'm reading it completely wrong.
Here's how it looks to me.
Rakine people live on the western side of Burma in their own area and harmonious with Burma as a whole - this area is mostly Buddhist with a few pockets of other religions.
There's then a huge influx of people from the West (Bengal) that threaten their way of life due to significant religious & cultural differences - these people then become the majority, want land annexed and start kicking off big style when they don't get their way.
Maybe I'm reading it completely wrong.
Mothersruin said:
If you want to use wiki - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_insurgency_...
Here's how it looks to me.
Rakine people live on the western side of Burma in their own area and harmonious with Burma as a whole - this area is mostly Buddhist with a few pockets of other religions.
There's then a huge influx of people from the West (Bengal) that threaten their way of life due to significant religious & cultural differences - these people then become the majority, want land annexed and start kicking off big style when they don't get their way.
Maybe I'm reading it completely wrong.
There has been significant violence from that alien group who have basically invaded and taken over a region and are wanting to impose their sky fairy rules.Here's how it looks to me.
Rakine people live on the western side of Burma in their own area and harmonious with Burma as a whole - this area is mostly Buddhist with a few pockets of other religions.
There's then a huge influx of people from the West (Bengal) that threaten their way of life due to significant religious & cultural differences - these people then become the majority, want land annexed and start kicking off big style when they don't get their way.
Maybe I'm reading it completely wrong.
Some countries will react differently to that.
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