Aung San Suu Kyi/Myanmar/Rohingya

Aung San Suu Kyi/Myanmar/Rohingya

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hutchst

3,699 posts

96 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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International law? What International law is that? It isn't an international issue. As far as I'm aware the alleged crimes are defined in two places, the Geneva Conventions and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.

The International Criminal Court has no jurisdiction in Burma. Myanmar is not a signatory to the Rome Statute.

The original Geneva Conventions (as amalgamated in 1946) deal with conduct between different countries at war, not civil war inside a single country. The alleged crimes in the UN report are domestic (committed in Myanmar by Myanmar troops on Myanmar citizens), not international. Myanmar is not a signatory to Protocol II of the Geneva Conventions (which brings domestic conflict within the same rules as international conflict).

The UN does itself no favours (again) making grandiose statements without any basis in reality.

The actions of the military might be abhorrent, but there is no existing international or supra-national forum available to deal with such actions. The only place to deal with it is in Myanmar under local laws if a suitable regime change was to happen within the remaining lifespan of the culprits.

This is just another nail in the coffin of the now largely useless United Nations.

turbomoped

4,180 posts

83 months

Thursday 30th August 2018
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I guess that Rambo 2008 film is back on the viewing list again. Was hidden away for a while so as not to offend these evil scumbags.

BlackLabel

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13,251 posts

123 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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Aung San Suu Kyi has been a genocide denier for years now because she didn’t want to anger the very people who had previously imprisoned her, the military. Well it looks like the military have turned against her again.


“ Aung San Suu Kyi, leader of Myanmar's governing National League for Democracy (NLD) party, has been arrested, a party spokesman said.
It comes amid tensions between the civilian government and the military, stoking fears of a coup.
At elections in November, the NLD won enough seats to form a government, but the army says the vote was fraudulent.
Myanmar, also known as Burma, was ruled by the military until 2011. Ms Suu Kyi spent many years under house arrest.
The newly elected lower house of parliament was due to convene for the first time on Monday but the military was calling for a postponement.
The BBC's South East Asia correspondent, Jonathan Head, says there are soldiers on the streets of the capital, Naypyitaw, and the main city, Yangon.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-55882489

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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tescorank

1,992 posts

231 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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CHINA? As old trumpy would say.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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hutchst said:
International law? What International law is that? It isn't an international issue. As far as I'm aware the alleged crimes are defined in two places, the Geneva Conventions and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.

The International Criminal Court has no jurisdiction in Burma. Myanmar is not a signatory to the Rome Statute.

The original Geneva Conventions (as amalgamated in 1946) deal with conduct between different countries at war, not civil war inside a single country. The alleged crimes in the UN report are domestic (committed in Myanmar by Myanmar troops on Myanmar citizens), not international. Myanmar is not a signatory to Protocol II of the Geneva Conventions (which brings domestic conflict within the same rules as international conflict).

The UN does itself no favours (again) making grandiose statements without any basis in reality.

The actions of the military might be abhorrent, but there is no existing international or supra-national forum available to deal with such actions. The only place to deal with it is in Myanmar under local laws if a suitable regime change was to happen within the remaining lifespan of the culprits.

This is just another nail in the coffin of the now largely useless United Nations.
A slow response to this from two years ago, but I disagree. You appear to be overlooking the framework of international law as to crimes against humanity as it has developed since 1945.

Anyway, rule of law off the agenda for now, as the army has taken over again.

BlackLabel

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13,251 posts

123 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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pquinn

7,167 posts

46 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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Meh, who cares. Not like it's a big change in the situation.

And maybe the evil witch might stay locked up this time, won't get much sympathy this time around. Turns out she was a lot like her dad.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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She won’t be getting much sympathy this time around.

Countdown

39,817 posts

196 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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I wonder what she was doing that pee'd of the Generalissimos...?

JuniorD

8,624 posts

223 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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I’m waiting for Bono to make a statement before I make my mind up about these developments.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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JuniorD said:
I’m waiting for Bono to make a statement before I make my mind up about these developments.
This is indeed my guide to life.

wolfracesonic

6,974 posts

127 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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Say what you like about, Aung San Suu Kyi, she was great at lockdown.

Stuzza

138 posts

88 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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Breadvan72 said:
This is indeed my guide to life.
Pro Bono?

Not-The-Messiah

3,617 posts

81 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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All the new military government need to do now is hold an election with massive new numbers of mail in votes (because of corvid), deny election monitors into the counts. Then just deny and refuse any investigation into potential fraud or miss doings by just saying "where is your evidence?"

And jobs a good one, a ligament government we have, anyone who questions it just call them a conspiracy nut job.

TorqueDirty

1,500 posts

219 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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So you are saying they will use Corvid as a means to to argue that they have formed ligament government?


Countdown

39,817 posts

196 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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TorqueDirty said:
So you are saying they will use Corvid as a means to to argue that they have formed ligament government?
They don't have a leg to stand on.

biggbn

23,187 posts

220 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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TorqueDirty said:
So you are saying they will use Corvid as a means to to argue that they have formed ligament government?
Thats stretching it

JuniorD

8,624 posts

223 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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biggbn said:
TorqueDirty said:
So you are saying they will use Corvid as a means to to argue that they have formed ligament government?
Thats stretching it
Quit with the crowing