Irma. The biggest ever Atlantic hurricane......

Irma. The biggest ever Atlantic hurricane......

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trickywoo

11,779 posts

230 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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Seems to be a focused storm as I have family in Antigua (not far from Barbuda) and they have seen minimal damage. Structures that wouldn't survive a winter in the U.K. are largely untouched in Antigua.

stuckmojo

2,978 posts

188 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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Laurel Green said:
Watched. at 5.30 min onwards one can see the strength of the hurricane hitting. It's terrifying.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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Pan Pan Pan said:
The headline should read `Biggest ever Atlantic hurricane in recent times'
Bigger hurricanes have devastated the area in the past, and it is only because the Caribbean and Florida areas were hit by worse storms in the late 19th century when those areas began to be more densely populated that hurricane watching and their prediction started in those areas.
Such storms have been a feature of the area for centuries. This one just happens to be the biggest since records were begun.
Comforting words.

Shay HTFC

3,588 posts

189 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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I was on USVI and Sing Maarten last year, and apart from some pockets of wealth, it's mainly wooden shacks. Has everyone been evacuated? Are underground bunkers standard over there? How are people stranded on remote islands supposed to survive this thing?!

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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Shay HTFC said:
I was on USVI and Sing Maarten last year, and apart from some pockets of wealth, it's mainly wooden shacks. Has everyone been evacuated? Are underground bunkers standard over there? How are people stranded on remote islands supposed to survive this thing?!
This is the bit that gets me when they interview tourists that "made it out". A lot of people are left behind and should be the real story.

turbobloke

103,911 posts

260 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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OpulentBob said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
The headline should read `Biggest ever Atlantic hurricane in recent times'
Bigger hurricanes have devastated the area in the past, and it is only because the Caribbean and Florida areas were hit by worse storms in the late 19th century when those areas began to be more densely populated that hurricane watching and their prediction started in those areas.
Such storms have been a feature of the area for centuries. This one just happens to be the biggest since records were begun.
Comforting words.
Accurate and informative words.

If emotion defeats reason at challenging times that's of little help except perhaps for allowing the emoter to feel good about themselves, those affected are still in need of practical help beyond words. What's new.

Pan Pan Pan

9,898 posts

111 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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OpulentBob said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
The headline should read `Biggest ever Atlantic hurricane in recent times'
Bigger hurricanes have devastated the area in the past, and it is only because the Caribbean and Florida areas were hit by worse storms in the late 19th century when those areas began to be more densely populated that hurricane watching and their prediction started in those areas.
Such storms have been a feature of the area for centuries. This one just happens to be the biggest since records were begun.
Comforting words.
And you think the hysteric screaming that this is the worst hurricane ever is even more comforting? I was simply pointing out that this is the worst hurricane for a decade, not the worst hurricane ever.
Hurricanes of all magnitudes can kill and cause devastation. Why is this one any different?

LimaDelta

6,520 posts

218 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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Shay HTFC said:
I was on USVI and Sing Maarten last year, and apart from some pockets of wealth, it's mainly wooden shacks. Has everyone been evacuated? Are underground bunkers standard over there? How are people stranded on remote islands supposed to survive this thing?!
Many of them won't.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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Pan Pan Pan said:
I was simply pointing out that this is the worst hurricane for a decade, not the worst hurricane ever.
How are you rating the hurricanes to decide which is worst and which one(s) were worse than Irma?


Eric Mc

121,981 posts

265 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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This is why discussions on this forum get so tedious sometimes.

It's a terrible event for those who are affected by it - whether it's the biggest hurricane in the area ever or not.

Pan Pan Pan

9,898 posts

111 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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El stovey said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
I was simply pointing out that this is the worst hurricane for a decade, not the worst hurricane ever.
How are you rating the hurricanes to decide which is worst and which one(s) were worse than Irma?
There are several ways, which include loss of life, devastation of property, or a combination of these. In terms of loss of life, modern hurricanes are no where near the worst on record, despite the area being far more densely populated now, than they have been in the past. Look at hurricanes in the area in the late 19 century for a start..

red_slr

17,222 posts

189 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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Updated path predictions have just come out, puts the eye over Miami (or very close) sometime between 10am and 3pm BST on Saturday.

HoHoHo

14,987 posts

250 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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trickywoo said:
Seems to be a focused storm as I have family in Antigua (not far from Barbuda) and they have seen minimal damage. Structures that wouldn't survive a winter in the U.K. are largely untouched in Antigua.
I spent nearly three weeks in Antigua this summer and had a fantastic holiday, it's a great place to stay for a while thumbup

I'm thankful the island hasn't been hit badly and hope the others in the path of this stty storm are as lucky yes

Puggit

48,436 posts

248 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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Planes can land even closer to the beach now at SXM


hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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red_slr said:
Updated path predictions have just come out, puts the eye over Miami (or very close) sometime between 10am and 3pm BST on Saturday.
Will it keep its strength do we know?

Chris Stott

13,360 posts

197 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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Just spoke to my wife, who lives on Brickell Key (30th floor, waterfront condo), and she's currently at the airport waiting for a flight to LA (hopefully - the flight before hers got cancelled).

No compulsory evacuation for her part of Miami yet, but I'm very relieved she's getting out of there given current forecast is for it still to be a cat 5 when it passes over on Saturday.

Massive queues at all the gas stations, massive queues at all the supermarkets.. she described Miami as carnage, and she's not one to exaggerate. Says even the 'seasoned' locals are worried about this one.

Puggit

48,436 posts

248 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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hornetrider said:
red_slr said:
Updated path predictions have just come out, puts the eye over Miami (or very close) sometime between 10am and 3pm BST on Saturday.
Will it keep its strength do we know?
Stil forecast to be a 'major hurricane' which is either 4 or 5. Will make a mess of Miami with a direct hit, without doubt.

DAVEVO9

3,469 posts

267 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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Puggit said:
Planes can land even closer to the beach now at SXM
That's the one where they hang off the fence for the jet wash?

Dixy

2,921 posts

205 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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Reports coming in from the BVI saying that Peter Island is wrecked seem to remember their was a very substantial building up at the top, hope all there are OK.

Eric Mc

121,981 posts

265 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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DAVEVO9 said:
Puggit said:
Planes can land even closer to the beach now at SXM
That's the one where they hang off the fence for the jet wash?
A lady was blown over and killed there by jet blast only a few weeks ago.