London Underground Incident

[mickmcpaddy]

So not only do they let them in willy nilly, once they are here they give them a free house with panoramic views of the airport. Again, well done.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4892516/Se...

[anonymous-user]

mickmcpaddy said:

So not only do they let them in willy nilly, once they are here they give them a free house with panoramic views of the airport. Again, well done.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4892516/Se...

I'm sure that after it's allowed to die down that...
"Lessons will be learnt" etc etc
Was he a known wolf or a misjudged refugee trying to build a better life
Etc etc etc
Rinse
Repeat

[anonymous-user]

bhstewie said:

What do you think they knew and why?

If you want to sling mud simply by association fair enough but if you stop for just a second and think about it do you really think that a 71 year old woman an an 88 year old man who have fostered over 250 kids and got an MBE in recognition of it saw some guns and thought "Nah fk it"?

foster parents of 71 and 88 is absurd.

How do you possibly expect people of that age group to have the required ability to properly supervise children with difficult backgrounds, just your average kid is knackering in those circumstances for a middle aged couple.

[glazbagun]

jsf said:

bhstewie said:

What do you think they knew and why?

If you want to sling mud simply by association fair enough but if you stop for just a second and think about it do you really think that a 71 year old woman an an 88 year old man who have fostered over 250 kids and got an MBE in recognition of it saw some guns and thought "Nah fk it"?

foster parents of 71 and 88 is absurd.

How do you possibly expect people of that age group to have the required ability to properly supervise children with difficult backgrounds, just your average kid is knackering in those circumstances for a middle aged couple.

I think that says more about the state of the nation than the authorities. I imagine if there were armies of perfect parents out there just desperate to help then we'd be in a situation where we would indeed cherry-pick. Millennials are going to be so worried about having a roof over their heads at all that I expect finding people with the ability and inclination to foster loads of kids will only diminish.

[Funkycoldribena]

glazbagun said:

I think that says more about the state of the nation than the authorities. I imagine if there were armies of perfect parents out there just desperate to help then we'd be in a situation where we would indeed cherry-pick. Millennials are going to be so worried about having a roof over their heads at all that I expect finding people with the ability and inclination to foster loads of kids will only diminish.

Surely he should have been at Lily's?
Plenty of roof there.

[oilbethere]

[mcdjl]

BlackLabel said:

Quite a year we've had and and we're still only in the middle of September.

So about 3% of the deaths (I can't be bothered to add up the injuries) have been down to racist Welsh van drivers. Are we going to put border checks there to keep the Welsh out of our country?

[TheLordJohn]

glazbagun said:

Millennials are going to be so worried about having a roof over their heads at all that I expect finding people with the ability and inclination to foster loads of kids will only diminish.

I rather think millenials aren't reproducing for other reasons. 1) They've been sold this big lie that it's better for both parents to work, then pay a complete stranger to raise your child for you. 2) Women have been 'liberated' from having a decent life as part of the family unit and into corporations, wage slavery and consumer debt. 3) Plenty of people are hesitant about reproducing because of the state the country is in.

[Robertj21a]

I doubt that people are hesitant of having children because of the state of the country !
Hopefully, more people are seriously considering the need to bring any more children into the world given the significant birth rates in some countries and/or religions.

[NDA]

bhstewie said:

If the foster parents knew all of those things.

If there are questions to ask I would guess it's more at the authorities and whatever process refugees go through before being let in.

Turns out you're right. The foster parents say they learnt more about this individual in a 5 minute conversation with the Police than they did through multiple dealings with Surrey County Council.

[Cobnapint]

New tube map...

https://mobile.twitter.com/olyduff/status/90872146...

[Boydie88]

mickmcpaddy said:

15 guns and a bomb found at the raided house. And the do gooders knew nothing? seriously? didn't have any inkling of what he might be up to.

But think of all the 'culture' they're bringing to our country.

mickmcpaddy said:

So not only do they let them in willy nilly, once they are here they give them a free house with panoramic views of the airport. Again, well done.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4892516/Se...

Wasn't the Donald slaughtered for suggesting the culprits would be known to our Police? If only the media cared as much about persecuting these toxic ideologies out to kill innocents.

Edited by Boydie88 on Monday 18th September 08:58

[Maxf]

mcdjl said:

So about 3% of the deaths (I can't be bothered to add up the injuries) have been down to racist Welsh van drivers. Are we going to put border checks there to keep the Welsh out of our country?

Sensible use of resources would suggest dealing with the 97% would be best as a first measure. Once that's sorted, other forms of hate could be addressed.

[TheLordJohn]

Robertj21a said:

I doubt that people are hesitant of having children because of the state of the country

BlackLabel said:

Quite a year we've had and and we're still only in the middle of September.

Robertj21a said:

Hopefully, more people are seriously considering the need to bring any more children into the world given the significant birth rates in some countries and/or religions.

You make a good point, above. But why would people subject their future generations to the direction the U.K and Europe is heading in...?

[mcdjl]

Maxf said:

mcdjl said:

So about 3% of the deaths (I can't be bothered to add up the injuries) have been down to racist Welsh van drivers. Are we going to put border checks there to keep the Welsh out of our country?

Sensible use of resources would suggest dealing with the 97% would be best as a first measure. Once that's sorted, other forms of hate could be addressed.

Absolutely, but whatever tactics and means are used on the perpetrators of the 97% should also be used on those the 3%.

[Murph7355]

mcdjl said:

Maxf said:

mcdjl said:

So about 3% of the deaths (I can't be bothered to add up the injuries) have been down to racist Welsh van drivers. Are we going to put border checks there to keep the Welsh out of our country?

Sensible use of resources would suggest dealing with the 97% would be best as a first measure. Once that's sorted, other forms of hate could be addressed.

Absolutely, but whatever tactics and means are used on the perpetrators of the 97% should also be used on those the 3%.

They could simply reverse the direction in which tolls are paid on the Severn Bridge.

[Username888]

anonymous said:

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Agreed. Having Maajid Nawaz replace him whilst he was away was very refreshing.

[Username888]

Randy Winkman said:

AreOut said:

Fish said:

Did you live through the 80's and 90's with the IRA... yes it is normal. These things get normalised it is how a populous deals with it..

That and tea and black humour!

IRA didn't have the goal to introduce sharia in UK and convert everyone to their religion though, this threat won't go away anytime soon and that's the biggest problem

But the IRA had another goal they were equally as passionate about. What's the difference?

IRA were political. ISIS are religious.

You can negotiate with someones politics. You cannot negotiate with the direct word of God.

[Digga]

Username888 said:

Randy Winkman said:

AreOut said:

Fish said:

Did you live through the 80's and 90's with the IRA... yes it is normal. These things get normalised it is how a populous deals with it..

That and tea and black humour!

IRA didn't have the goal to introduce sharia in UK and convert everyone to their religion though, this threat won't go away anytime soon and that's the biggest problem

But the IRA had another goal they were equally as passionate about. What's the difference?

IRA were political. ISIS are religious.

You can negotiate with someones politics. You cannot negotiate with the direct word of God.

Semantics, but I disagree somewhat with your first sentence. The scope of extreme, fundamentalist Islam brings it firmly into the realm of totalitarianism and, thereby, politics as well as law and everything else.

That they cannot be negotiated with - because their intent is so idiotically extreme as to be beyond negotiation - is, however, perfectly true. They effectively insist on having the moon on a stick and so compromise and tolerance is absolutely out of the question.

[mx5nut]

Username888 said:

IRA were political. ISIS are religious.

You can negotiate with someones politics. You cannot negotiate with the direct word of God.

You may need to take the rose tinted glasses off. Murder isn't any more palatable when done for political rather than religious reasons. Many at the time would say there was no possibility of negotiation with the IRA. Times change.

(Not suggesting ISIS inspired terrorists can be negotiated with, but more to the point that "this threat won't go away". You'd have said the same at the height of the troubles, too)