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Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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Alpinestars said:

I can understand the Black bit of your post, but the Scouser bit? Really? Different Genus never mind race.

Oh, and he's probably never heard of cheddar man either.
rofl

I never knew PWC had a humour dept !!!

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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Jockman said:
Alpinestars said:

I can understand the Black bit of your post, but the Scouser bit? Really? Different Genus never mind race.

Oh, and he's probably never heard of cheddar man either.
rofl

I never knew PWC had a humour dept !!!
To make it worse the family moved to the midlands in the 1970s.


Digga

40,316 posts

283 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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Jockman said:
Most? immigrants seem to come from predominantly white countries anyway - Poland, Ireland, Germany, US etc - or a Hindu country like India. I’m not sure these countries are known for terrorist activities.
With Eastern EU the problems relate more to organised crime than terror; certain nations are over-represented by ethnicity in our prison system.

Terror, certainly Islamic extremism, is more the game for EMEA immigrants. That or home-grown nutters.

However, as I said the other day and someone failed to grasp, fortunately most immigrants - irrespective of race, religion or country of origin - are neither criminal, nor terrorist.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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StephenGalley said:
I think we should keep allowing immigration until we are outnumbered in our own country! More terrorism! More of our girls being raped by foreigners! More we say! More! Never stop adding more until we are outnumbered in our own country! Is this what we are supposed to say? That is not what we are saying. We are already 25% a foreign race we cannot go along with this any longer, this is not how we want our country run. Pakistan, Korea, India, China, Turkey, Japan, etc., etc., etc. are not doing this in their own countries, we are not doing this either.
Turkey has tens of thousands of illegal immigrants (also known as refugees) living in camps near the Syrian border, and a big problem with home-grown terrorism from Kurdish groups

Pakistan recently had to deal floods of Rohingya refugees.

Japan has had fairly recent issues with home grown terrorism, in 2016 a Japanese man killed 16 residents of an old people's home with a knife.

WTF does "We are already 25% a foreign race" mean?

If you don't want to be discounted as a jibbering idiot I'd suggest at least trying to make sense when you type out your diatribes.


Liokault

2,837 posts

214 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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Pothole said:
StephenGalley said:
I think we should keep allowing immigration until we are outnumbered in our own country! More terrorism! More of our girls being raped by foreigners! More we say! More! Never stop adding more until we are outnumbered in our own country! Is this what we are supposed to say? That is not what we are saying. We are already 25% a foreign race we cannot go along with this any longer, this is not how we want our country run. Pakistan, Korea, India, China, Turkey, Japan, etc., etc., etc. are not doing this in their own countries, we are not doing this either.
Turkey has tens of thousands of illegal immigrants (also known as refugees) living in camps near the Syrian border, and a big problem with home-grown terrorism from Kurdish groups

Pakistan recently had to deal floods of Rohingya refugees.

Japan has had fairly recent issues with home grown terrorism, in 2016 a Japanese man killed 16 residents of an old people's home with a knife.

WTF does "We are already 25% a foreign race" mean?

If you don't want to be discounted as a jibbering idiot I'd suggest at least trying to make sense when you type out your diatribes.
His point is badly made but to dismiss it as a non issue or non valid view leads us to “shocks” like brexit or Trump.


Right or wrong, look at TV crowd footage from any BW era....try to spot the non white faces. Things are changing and people are feeling threatened by that. Don’t dismiss that just for the sake of being politically correct.

bitchstewie

51,204 posts

210 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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Liokault said:
His point is badly made but to dismiss it as a non issue or non valid view leads us to “shocks” like brexit or Trump.


Right or wrong, look at TV crowd footage from any BW era....try to spot the non white faces. Things are changing and people are feeling threatened by that. Don’t dismiss that just for the sake of being politically correct.
There are plenty of places where I'd feel very threatened by 100% "white British" faces.

People are good or bad for any number of reasons but lumping everyone who is "non white" in the bad bucket which is what StephenGalley seems to be doing helps nobody.

Countdown

39,864 posts

196 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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Liokault said:
His point is badly made but to dismiss it as a non issue or non valid view leads us to “shocks” like brexit or Trump.


Right or wrong, look at TV crowd footage from any BW era....try to spot the non white faces. Things are changing and people are feeling threatened by that. Don’t dismiss that just for the sake of being politically correct.
Woah...what?!?! Are you suggesting Brexit and Trump were due to people voting on grounds of Race?

Shurely some mistake....

frankenstein12

1,915 posts

96 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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Liokault said:
Pothole said:
StephenGalley said:
I think we should keep allowing immigration until we are outnumbered in our own country! More terrorism! More of our girls being raped by foreigners! More we say! More! Never stop adding more until we are outnumbered in our own country! Is this what we are supposed to say? That is not what we are saying. We are already 25% a foreign race we cannot go along with this any longer, this is not how we want our country run. Pakistan, Korea, India, China, Turkey, Japan, etc., etc., etc. are not doing this in their own countries, we are not doing this either.
Turkey has tens of thousands of illegal immigrants (also known as refugees) living in camps near the Syrian border, and a big problem with home-grown terrorism from Kurdish groups

Pakistan recently had to deal floods of Rohingya refugees.

Japan has had fairly recent issues with home grown terrorism, in 2016 a Japanese man killed 16 residents of an old people's home with a knife.

WTF does "We are already 25% a foreign race" mean?

If you don't want to be discounted as a jibbering idiot I'd suggest at least trying to make sense when you type out your diatribes.
His point is badly made but to dismiss it as a non issue or non valid view leads us to “shocks” like brexit or Trump.


Right or wrong, look at TV crowd footage from any BW era....try to spot the non white faces. Things are changing and people are feeling threatened by that. Don’t dismiss that just for the sake of being politically correct.
To some a shock to others utterly and entirely predictable.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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Liokault said:
Right or wrong, look at TV crowd footage from any BW era....try to spot the non white faces.
I've been watching BBC drama for my historical knowledge - as far as I can tell, they were everywhere! hehe

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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Countdown said:
Woah...what?!?! Are you suggesting Brexit and Trump were due to people voting on grounds of Race?

Shurely some mistake....
I think the point he is making is, no one was listening to those who were concerned about the EU project and the direction it was taking, and dismissing those views as 'silly' was a shock when those people were the majority of voters.

Same with Trump, the liberals, and most of the press, social media etc. laughed at Trump and presumed he had no chance, then they were shocked when they lost.


People are concerned about the UK being turned into a Muslim state in the years to come, dismissing them as racist is dangerous, before you know it we will have people voting for parties that are really not what we all want at all, but they will be the only ones listening.
How shocked will folk be then?

Dynamic Space Wizard

928 posts

104 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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gizlaroc said:
People are concerned about the UK being turned into a Muslim state in the years to come
in the years to come?

Dynamic Space Wizard

928 posts

104 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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anonymous said:
[redacted]
It's in the process of becoming one.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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Dynamic Space Wizard said:
anonymous said:
[redacted]
It's in the process of becoming one.
We'd have to get rid of the monarchy first.

I'm up for that, so it wouldn't be all bad.

Frank7

6,619 posts

87 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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desolate said:
We'd have to get rid of the monarchy first.

I'm up for that, so it wouldn't be all bad.
I’m ambivalent about the monarchy, but I wish them no harm, I wouldn’t
hold my breath waiting for someone to get rid of them if I were you.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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Frank7 said:
I’m ambivalent about the monarchy, but I wish them no harm, I wouldn’t
hold my breath waiting for someone to get rid of them if I were you.
They'll see off the Islamist. As they are a vital part of the British system, we can't be Islamic until they say so.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Sunday 18th March 2018
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Liokault said:
His point is badly made but to dismiss it as a non issue or non valid view leads us to “shocks” like brexit or Trump.
What point? I can guess, but that good is that? What if I guess wrong? Was Brexit a shock to you? How odd.

Countdown

39,864 posts

196 months

Sunday 18th March 2018
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desolate said:
Dynamic Space Wizard said:
anonymous said:
[redacted]
It's in the process of becoming one.
We'd have to get rid of the monarchy first.

I'm up for that, so it wouldn't be all bad.
Charles is “one of us” so no need to get rid of the Monarchy wink

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Sunday 18th March 2018
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No doubt 'lessons will be learned' from all of this.

Only a month or two after arriving in the UK illegally he told immigration officials that he had been recruited by IS and forced to train with them. "They trained us how to kill. It was all religious based" he said.

Weeks later when he got to a Barnardo's children's home he was caught listening to an Arabic song which called for people to be slaughtered. Also at this home he was caught looking at IS flags and propaganda online.

Then a month or two later he told a member of staff at his college that it was his "duty to hate Britain". The same member of staff saw a WhatsApp message on his phone thanking him for making a donation to IS. She reported him to the relevant authorities.

A few months later his foster parents were so worried about his mental health that they contacted social services demanding action. He even ordered the explosives from amazon and they were sent to his home address.

And no one told his foster parents about any of the above.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/16/parson...

Yes it's sad that his mother died when he was very young, and that his father was apparently killed by an airstrike. It's sad that he had to flee a war-zone and it's sad that he had mental health issues but should we really be giving people like this asylum? People who pose a security threat here should be locked up or deported back to the last country they were in.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Sunday 18th March 2018
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BlackLabel said:
No doubt 'lessons will be learned' from all of this.

Only a month or two after arriving in the UK illegally he told immigration officials that he had been recruited by IS and forced to train with them. "They trained us how to kill. It was all religious based" he said.

Weeks later when he got to a Barnardo's children's home he was caught listening to an Arabic song which called for people to be slaughtered. Also at this home he was caught looking at IS flags and propaganda online.

Then a month or two later he told a member of staff at his college that it was his "duty to hate Britain". The same member of staff saw a WhatsApp message on his phone thanking him for making a donation to IS. She reported him to the relevant authorities.

A few months later his foster parents were so worried about his mental health that they contacted social services demanding action. He even ordered the explosives from amazon and they were sent to his home address.

And no one told his foster parents about any of the above.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/16/parson...

Yes it's sad that his mother died when he was very young, and that his father was apparently killed by an airstrike. It's sad that he had to flee a war-zone and it's sad that he had mental health issues but should we really be giving people like this asylum? People who pose a security threat here should be locked up or deported back to the last country they were in.
Personally I don't give a crap about him losing his parents. I know children who lost their mother in the Manchester bomb. Many people on that train who could have been killed or maimed for life will have had children.
In any case I'd like to see firm documented evidence of his parents loss. How do we know it isn't all bks made up by him

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months