London Underground Incident

[vixen1700]

Life with a minimum of 34 years.

I sentence you to life imprisonment with min term of 34 years. You will have plenty of time to read the Koran in prison. The Koran is a book of peace. Islam forbids breaking the law of the land. Islam forbids terrorism. You have violated Islam and the Koran by your actions.

[Mothersruin]

vixen1700 said:

Life with a minimum of 34 years.

I sentence you to life imprisonment with min term of 34 years. You will have plenty of time to read the Koran in prison. The Koran is a book of peace. Islam forbids breaking the law of the land. Islam forbids terrorism. You have violated Islam and the Koran by your actions.

lol.

[wc98]

Countdown said:

Charles is “one of us” so no need to get rid of the Monarchy

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

i must have missed that when it was originally posted. when i saw the thread title i looked at the date expecting it to be april the 1st from a few years ago , lol.

[agtlaw]

Some interesting sentencing remarks:

"Finally, Ahmed Hassan, let me say this to you. You will have plenty of time to study the Qur’an in prison in the years to come. You should understand that the Qur’an is a book of peace; Islam is a religion of peace. The Qur’an and Islam forbid anything extreme, including extremism in religion. Islam forbids breaking the ‘law of the land’ where one is living or is a guest. Islam forbids terrorism (hiraba). The Qur’an and the Sunna provide that the crime of perpetrating terror to “cause corruption in the land” is one of the most severe crimes in Islam. So it is in the law of the United Kingdom. You have, therefore, received the most severe of sentences under the law of this land. You have violated the Qur’an and Islam by your actions, as well as the law of all civilized people. It is to be hoped that you will come to realise this one day. Please go with the officers."

"It is important that you and the general public, should understand what a “minimum term” means in practice. Where the Court specifies a minimum term, you cannot be released until that full minimum term has expired. But even then you will not automatically be released. You will not be released unless and until the Parole Board are satisfied that it is safe to release you into the community. That time may never come. Even if you are released on licence, that is not the end of your sentence. You will remain subject to the conditions of your licence for the rest of your life. If you reoffend, the Secretary of State has the power to order that you be returned to prison to continue to serve your life sentence until it is thought safe to release you again."

https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/judgments/r-v-hassan-...

[Digga]

agtlaw said:

Some interesting sentencing remarks:

"Finally, Ahmed Hassan, let me say this to you. You will have plenty of time to study the Qur’an in prison in the years to come. You should understand that the Qur’an is a book of peace; Islam is a religion of peace. The Qur’an and Islam forbid anything extreme, including extremism in religion. Islam forbids breaking the ‘law of the land’ where one is living or is a guest. Islam forbids terrorism (hiraba). The Qur’an and the Sunna provide that the crime of perpetrating terror to “cause corruption in the land” is one of the most severe crimes in Islam. So it is in the law of the United Kingdom. You have, therefore, received the most severe of sentences under the law of this land. You have violated the Qur’an and Islam by your actions, as well as the law of all civilized people. It is to be hoped that you will come to realise this one day. Please go with the officers."

"It is important that you and the general public, should understand what a “minimum term” means in practice. Where the Court specifies a minimum term, you cannot be released until that full minimum term has expired. But even then you will not automatically be released. You will not be released unless and until the Parole Board are satisfied that it is safe to release you into the community. That time may never come. Even if you are released on licence, that is not the end of your sentence. You will remain subject to the conditions of your licence for the rest of your life. If you reoffend, the Secretary of State has the power to order that you be returned to prison to continue to serve your life sentence until it is thought safe to release you again."

https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/judgments/r-v-hassan-...

Indeed.

The case is most certainly being used as an example.

[pequod]

Digga said:

agtlaw said:

Some interesting sentencing remarks:

"Finally, Ahmed Hassan, let me say this to you. You will have plenty of time to study the Qur’an in prison in the years to come. You should understand that the Qur’an is a book of peace; Islam is a religion of peace. The Qur’an and Islam forbid anything extreme, including extremism in religion. Islam forbids breaking the ‘law of the land’ where one is living or is a guest. Islam forbids terrorism (hiraba). The Qur’an and the Sunna provide that the crime of perpetrating terror to “cause corruption in the land” is one of the most severe crimes in Islam. So it is in the law of the United Kingdom. You have, therefore, received the most severe of sentences under the law of this land. You have violated the Qur’an and Islam by your actions, as well as the law of all civilized people. It is to be hoped that you will come to realise this one day. Please go with the officers."

"It is important that you and the general public, should understand what a “minimum term” means in practice. Where the Court specifies a minimum term, you cannot be released until that full minimum term has expired. But even then you will not automatically be released. You will not be released unless and until the Parole Board are satisfied that it is safe to release you into the community. That time may never come. Even if you are released on licence, that is not the end of your sentence. You will remain subject to the conditions of your licence for the rest of your life. If you reoffend, the Secretary of State has the power to order that you be returned to prison to continue to serve your life sentence until it is thought safe to release you again."

https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/judgments/r-v-hassan-...

Indeed.

The case is most certainly being used as an example.

Fine words indeed, but why can't he serve his sentence in his Country of Origin? Why should we, the tax payer, be paying for his incarceration in our prison system when he entered the country illegally and has been given every chance, but chose to make a political/religious point?
If we are to make an example of this fellow and try to prevent it happening again, shouldn't we be showing more grit and send the fellow back to Iraq?