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He's also the National Crit' Champ, not just for juniors, he beat the best riders in the UK. Not sure if he was on junior gears either but I suspect he might've been. An amazing talent, a bright future beckons. Signed for Wiggins for 2018's road season so it'll be interesting to see how he develops. He's also riding CX in one of the best teams around with Sven Nys as manager. He's going to be a busy lad that's for sure !
TheFungle said:
Good interview with him in last month's Cyclist magazine.
Very confident young man, could well be the new Sagan.
Has achieved more as a Junior than Sagan did. Hopefully he'll conquer Cyclocross before the inevitable move to the road; would be great to see a Brit dominating the world of cross. I'd actually love to see him on a XC MTB...Very confident young man, could well be the new Sagan.
I really want him to do well, for the next many many years, but i'm concerned on two fronts:
I'm not calling him a lazy tt, that's not the point of this post.
I think the first one speaks for itself. It's not unheard of for people to get a bit big for their boots, and be a bit of a knob off the back of it. Sagan is a bit of a show off. For some people this is too much and see him as a bit of a berk because of it. Others see this as having a bit of flair and love it. I'm roughly between the two, and would rather see a bit of personality, so will put up with a bit of it from Sagan. I really hope Tom Pidock manages to walk this tightrope of a line in the right way.
For the second point, this might come because I recently read Chris Hoy's autobiography. One of the points he makes is about very talented juniors who suddenly find it much harder going when they go up to the more senior leagues. Guys who win everything, and can do on talent alone. But when they get to the more senior leagues, they don't. They have to do the work to back up the talent. I don't know Tom's training schedule, I don't know his coaches or him, but I really hope he is able to manage this transition. (Hoy makes these points a lot more eloquently than me.)
I want Tom Pidock to be hugely successful. My boys are just about old enough to start to be interested. I want him to be a wonderful role model for them, and someone I can cheer along too. You might have seen this picture of a young Mark Cavendish looking up to David Miller when he was a kid, and how they've all come along. I want Pidock to be that for my boys. (Although without the demons that Miller had to deal with.)
- Being this successful this young will mean he turns into an arrogant tt.
- He has lots of natural talent, but doesn't have the work ethic.
I'm not calling him a lazy tt, that's not the point of this post.
I think the first one speaks for itself. It's not unheard of for people to get a bit big for their boots, and be a bit of a knob off the back of it. Sagan is a bit of a show off. For some people this is too much and see him as a bit of a berk because of it. Others see this as having a bit of flair and love it. I'm roughly between the two, and would rather see a bit of personality, so will put up with a bit of it from Sagan. I really hope Tom Pidock manages to walk this tightrope of a line in the right way.
For the second point, this might come because I recently read Chris Hoy's autobiography. One of the points he makes is about very talented juniors who suddenly find it much harder going when they go up to the more senior leagues. Guys who win everything, and can do on talent alone. But when they get to the more senior leagues, they don't. They have to do the work to back up the talent. I don't know Tom's training schedule, I don't know his coaches or him, but I really hope he is able to manage this transition. (Hoy makes these points a lot more eloquently than me.)
I want Tom Pidock to be hugely successful. My boys are just about old enough to start to be interested. I want him to be a wonderful role model for them, and someone I can cheer along too. You might have seen this picture of a young Mark Cavendish looking up to David Miller when he was a kid, and how they've all come along. I want Pidock to be that for my boys. (Although without the demons that Miller had to deal with.)
louiebaby said:
He has lots of natural talent, but doesn't have the work ethic.
Don't think you can question his work ethic at the moment - https://www.strava.com/pros/16345903Moaningroadie said:
Don't think you can question his work ethic at the moment - https://www.strava.com/pros/16345903
Not sure that proves anything, he's done bugger all miles this year really.Anyway, I don't personally agree with the post above. Being good young turns tts into bigger tts. I think it would be a big stretch to turn what seems like a fairly quiet lad into something totally not that.
The talent thing, he's already beating adults at the very top of their game (see UK crits champs and tour series), so whatever he is doing is clearly good enough for it to carry him a fair bit further. Though BC will be managing his training and what not quite closely (along with his new cross team) - re conquering cross - he is world champion, he's done it. Hopefully he sacks it off and goes road though, cross is not the way forward.
The millar/cav thing isn't really relevant, both are shocking role models for various reasons. But then most pro sports people are.
okgo said:
Moaningroadie said:
Don't think you can question his work ethic at the moment - https://www.strava.com/pros/16345903
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