Britain First leaders charged with religious harassment

Britain First leaders charged with religious harassment

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bitchstewie

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50,781 posts

209 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Anyone know more?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-41338328

I think the court case was one of the recent grooming ones but the leaflets?

rscott

14,690 posts

190 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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It was the gang rape above a pizza shop. http://m.kentlive.news/two-britain-first-leaders-h...

Basically, during the trial of the 4 sick individuals, the Biffers were 'exposing' the 'secret' scandal by leafleting the high street and sneaking around the garden of the house where one of defendants had been living 8 months earlier, putting leaflets through the neighbours doors.

This was the same case where Tommy Robinson admitted contempt of court for trying to film in a prohibited area.

If you believe Golding and Fransen though, this case was being kept secret, despite daily reports in the local press.

rscott

14,690 posts

190 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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And now their application to register as a political party in Northern Ireland has been rejected - http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/...

Rich_W

12,548 posts

211 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Not defending the way the Brit First people went about it. Though I don't really have a problem with them drawing attention to crimes that seemingly a large chunk of our media would rather not cover for fear of being labelled racists

( Maajid Nawaz has been saying the same things regarding grooming gangs being a serious issue in the UK, but he's not kicked since he's also Muslim and it wouldn't fit a media narrative)



Yet bizarrely this lot aren't charged with religious hatred (or whatever the equivalent would be)

Love that the "anti Western" dick with the megaphone is wearing NIKE laugh

rscott

14,690 posts

190 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Rich_W said:
Not defending the way the Brit First people went about it. Though I don't really have a problem with them drawing attention to crimes that seemingly a large chunk of our media would rather not cover for fear of being labelled racists

( Maajid Nawaz has been saying the same things regarding grooming gangs being a serious issue in the UK, but he's not kicked since he's also Muslim and it wouldn't fit a media narrative)



Yet bizarrely this lot aren't charged with religious hatred (or whatever the equivalent would be)

Love that the "anti Western" dick with the megaphone is wearing NIKE laugh
Except in this case, the gang rape trial was being covered by the local media in great detail (daily reports). By the time Britain First & Tommy Robinson turned up to 'expose' it, the trial was well underway. This was the case where TR tried filming in prohibited parts of the court area, despite being warned, so ended up pleading guilty to contempt of court.

I don't think the fact he's a Muslim is the only reason Maajid Nawaz doesn't get arrested! Don't think he goes creeping around innocent people's gardens, for example. Unlike Fransen.

I don't know why those you pictured weren't arrested either - although it's hard to find the actual source of that image to know when & where it was taken or any details at all about the protest. If they were truly displaying the ISIS flag and showing support for them, it's a breach of the Terrorism Act. But then the security services did nothing about the person filmed by Channel 4 doing exactly that.

mickmcpaddy

1,445 posts

104 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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If you want the true news you are better off watching something off the internet, you wont get videos about battlefield Paris or antifa and the like from the BBC or so called right wing media, however plenty of videos of stuff like this exists if you search for it.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

211 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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rscott said:
Except in this case, the gang rape trial was being covered by the local media in great detail (daily reports). By the time Britain First & Tommy Robinson turned up to 'expose' it, the trial was well underway. This was the case where TR tried filming in prohibited parts of the court area, despite being warned, so ended up pleading guilty to contempt of court.

I don't think the fact he's a Muslim is the only reason Maajid Nawaz doesn't get arrested! Don't think he goes creeping around innocent people's gardens, for example. Unlike Fransen.

I don't know why those you pictured weren't arrested either - although it's hard to find the actual source of that image to know when & where it was taken or any details at all about the protest. If they were truly displaying the ISIS flag and showing support for them, it's a breach of the Terrorism Act. But then the security services did nothing about the person filmed by Channel 4 doing exactly that.
Local media, but not so much on Sky or BBC.

I'm not defending trying to interrupt court proceedings, that way leads to cases collapsing. Which is obviously not desireable.

WRT Nawaz, I meant that whenever a white person mentions the grooming/rape gangs they are branded "Racist" Whereas when Nawaz rightly says the exact same things the media ignore him. And people like Sadiq Khan refer to him and other moderate, reformist Muslims as "Uncle Toms" rolleyes

Who knows with the ISIS flag tts. Seems "freedom to protest" is not a universal right in the UK. Only certain groups can protest and only certain groups are allowed to get riot/violent without repercussions

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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rscott said:
I don't know why those you pictured weren't arrested either - although it's hard to find the actual source of that image to know when & where it was taken or any details at all about the protest.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8126357/Muslims-clash-with-police-after-burning-poppy-in-anti-Armistice-Day-protest.html

Second image on the story. From 2010, protesting against wars in Afghanistan and Iraq on Armistice Day.

That isn’t an ISIS flag. It bears the words “There is no God but Allah”.

Now Rich W is going to have to find something new to get all worked up about. Oh well.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 24th September 12:37

rscott

14,690 posts

190 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Greg66 said:
rscott said:
I don't know why those you pictured weren't arrested either - although it's hard to find the actual source of that image to know when & where it was taken or any details at all about the protest.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8126357/Muslims-clash-with-police-after-burning-poppy-in-anti-Armistice-Day-protest.html

Second image on the story. From 2010, protesting against wars in Afghanistan and Iraq on Armistice Day.
Thanks - so possibly connected to Choudary. They did seem to leave him alone for far too long.

Although it wasn't an offence to show support for ISIS in 2010 (were only added to the proscribed list of organisations in 2014), so just carrying the flag wasn't illegal then.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

108 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Rich_W said:
Local media, but not so much on Sky or BBC.

I'm not defending trying to interrupt court proceedings, that way leads to cases collapsing. Which is obviously not desireable.

WRT Nawaz, I meant that whenever a white person mentions the grooming/rape gangs they are branded "Racist" Whereas when Nawaz rightly says the exact same things the media ignore him. And people like Sadiq Khan refer to him and other moderate, reformist Muslims as "Uncle Toms" rolleyes

Who knows with the ISIS flag tts. Seems "freedom to protest" is not a universal right in the UK. Only certain groups can protest and only certain groups are allowed to get riot/violent without repercussions
Given that it's you, I'll probably regret asking this, but which group is allowed to get violent without repercussions?

Boosted LS1

21,165 posts

259 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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I'm not a fan of Britain First but they do have big balls and are brave enough to confront pervs as well as people who seem to be against our culture. I saw a recent link where they marched through a northern town carrying crosses and handing out christian leaflets. Talk about confrontational. The local's got very upset by it.

rscott

14,690 posts

190 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Rich_W said:
rscott said:
Except in this case, the gang rape trial was being covered by the local media in great detail (daily reports). By the time Britain First & Tommy Robinson turned up to 'expose' it, the trial was well underway. This was the case where TR tried filming in prohibited parts of the court area, despite being warned, so ended up pleading guilty to contempt of court.

I don't think the fact he's a Muslim is the only reason Maajid Nawaz doesn't get arrested! Don't think he goes creeping around innocent people's gardens, for example. Unlike Fransen.

I don't know why those you pictured weren't arrested either - although it's hard to find the actual source of that image to know when & where it was taken or any details at all about the protest. If they were truly displaying the ISIS flag and showing support for them, it's a breach of the Terrorism Act. But then the security services did nothing about the person filmed by Channel 4 doing exactly that.
Local media, but not so much on Sky or BBC.

I'm not defending trying to interrupt court proceedings, that way leads to cases collapsing. Which is obviously not desireable.

WRT Nawaz, I meant that whenever a white person mentions the grooming/rape gangs they are branded "Racist" Whereas when Nawaz rightly says the exact same things the media ignore him. And people like Sadiq Khan refer to him and other moderate, reformist Muslims as "Uncle Toms" rolleyes

Who knows with the ISIS flag tts. Seems "freedom to protest" is not a universal right in the UK. Only certain groups can protest and only certain groups are allowed to get riot/violent without repercussions
White people can mention grooming gangs without being called racists. Those who claim that the gangs exist only because of their faith tend to be the ones who get labeled though.

Khan didn't call Nawaz an uncle Tom though, at least not by name. He actually said "You can talk about articles in the newspapers about what an organisation might get but the point is you can't just pick and choose who you speak to, you can't just speak to Uncle Toms." . Seems this is a bit like his part and parcel line which gets misquoted a lot.


Freedom to protest within the law is universal here - the likes of BF & the EDL are allowed to march around, waving their Union Flags for all they're worth. Same as the unwashed AntiFa can trudge around, waving their placards.
It's only when they turn violent, or risk jeopardising other cases that the police stop them.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

108 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Boosted LS1 said:
I'm not a fan of Britain First but they do have big balls and are brave enough to confront pervs as well as people who seem to be against our culture. I saw a recent link where they marched through a northern town carrying crosses and handing out christian leaflets. Talk about confrontational. The local's got very upset by it.
Every time when I read your post I think he can't possibly post anything dumber than this. Your next post always proves me wrong.

rscott

14,690 posts

190 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Boosted LS1 said:
I'm not a fan of Britain First but they do have big balls and are brave enough to confront pervs as well as people who seem to be against our culture. I saw a recent link where they marched through a northern town carrying crosses and handing out christian leaflets. Talk about confrontational. The local's got very upset by it.
You mean the local vicar - yeah he did complain about them and say their behaviour wasn't Christian.

mickmcpaddy

1,445 posts

104 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
Boosted LS1 said:
I'm not a fan of Britain First but they do have big balls and are brave enough to confront pervs as well as people who seem to be against our culture. I saw a recent link where they marched through a northern town carrying crosses and handing out christian leaflets. Talk about confrontational. The local's got very upset by it.
Every time when I read your post I think he can't possibly post anything dumber than this. Your next post always proves me wrong.
All lefties can ever do is critisise other people, its what they do best whilst not having the answer to anything.

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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mickmcpaddy said:
All lefties can ever do is critisise other people, its what they do best whilst not having the answer to anything.
All bigots can ever do is hate.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

108 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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mickmcpaddy said:
jjlynn27 said:
Boosted LS1 said:
I'm not a fan of Britain First but they do have big balls and are brave enough to confront pervs as well as people who seem to be against our culture. I saw a recent link where they marched through a northern town carrying crosses and handing out christian leaflets. Talk about confrontational. The local's got very upset by it.
Every time when I read your post I think he can't possibly post anything dumber than this. Your next post always proves me wrong.
All lefties can ever do is critisise other people, its what they do best whilst not having the answer to anything.
There was no question, and I'm hardly a leftie. Congrats you manage to get two things wrong out of a single line of text. You seem to be as bright as boosted.

Sylvaforever

2,212 posts

97 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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As I stated (in my now censored ) post...
Specific posters have rsther unwittingly hit the nail on the head....you can obscurate as much as you want online, the fact is normal, everyday people have seen through the deception...





Eric Mc

121,779 posts

264 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Sylvaforever said:
As I stated (in my now censored ) post...
Specific posters have rsther unwittingly hit the nail on the head....you can obscurate as much as you want online, the fact is normal, everyday people have seen through the deception...
And the deception is.....?

Sylvaforever

2,212 posts

97 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Eric Mc said:
Sylvaforever said:
As I stated (in my now censored ) post...
Specific posters have rsther unwittingly hit the nail on the head....you can obscurate as much as you want online, the fact is normal, everyday people have seen through the deception...
And the deception is.....?
The silencing of dissent.

If you read the op they were also guilty of distributing leaflets supposedly supporting christion beliefs. This is part and parcel of the on going attack on Christian beliefs and those that practice them by the left.

But don't take my word for it Eric, look and open your eyes...

https://theweeflea.com/2017/09/22/solas-conversati...

And before anyone else chimes imo have laid my position on religion perfectly clear before...