BBC studiously avoiding reporting top name for boys
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Roman Rhodes said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
oyster said:
Can you please tell me what Anglo Saxon Christian culture is?
Is this an attempt to use the argument what is culture? The idea that culture and social norms are in constant flux and change. And the perception of them are different to each individual so it doesn't exist so cant be destroyed or protected? The argument, if something cant be exactly defined and quantified it cannot exist? All indicators are the latter but the floor is yours so to speak.
What you get intend is name calling attempted ridicule usually in the form of look he spelt a word wrong ha ha ha. And then the usual "what are you doing here? go away we don't like what you are saying."
The question was do you believe the deaths of hundreds if not thousands is a price worth paying for this modern cultural enrichment. Have the benefits outweigh the negatives if so please explain?
Not-The-Messiah said:
As usual points are made and questions asked, and the normal response is given. None of the points are tackled none of the questions answered. Well unless you count the Neanderthals argument didn't become extinct when the fact is they did. Or the vague meaningless pseudo argument about what is culture.
What you get intend is name calling attempted ridicule usually in the form of look he spelt a word wrong ha ha ha. And then the usual "what are you doing here? go away we don't like what you are saying."
The question was do you believe the deaths of hundreds if not thousands is a price worth paying for this modern cultural enrichment. Have the benefits outweigh the negatives if so please explain?
What are these many deaths of which you speak?What you get intend is name calling attempted ridicule usually in the form of look he spelt a word wrong ha ha ha. And then the usual "what are you doing here? go away we don't like what you are saying."
The question was do you believe the deaths of hundreds if not thousands is a price worth paying for this modern cultural enrichment. Have the benefits outweigh the negatives if so please explain?
e30m3Mark said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
Eric Mc said:
The white Anglo-Saxon side of this country was only ever a passing phase anyway. The white Celtic side was here long before those Saxon interlopers - not to mention all those European Italo/Romano/Celts etc.
Those bloody Saxons really ruined this place.
I hate this argument reminds me of this Stuart Lee sketch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw9qN6_eXOgThose bloody Saxons really ruined this place.
The Anglo Saxons coming over here doing this and that ha ha ha. For some reason he doesn't mention The brutally murdering, raping and subjugating of the native population. No mention of the thousands of thousands who died in the process. But perhaps that wouldn't be so funny.
You don't get many boys called Hitler nowadays do you?
I genuinely think you don't get it so you're right about the headway thing.
I hope for your sake you don't have children who have special needs or learning difficulties and have to endure others who think it is ok to be flippant with language in such a way.
And of course the world has other problems or other offensive things. This imho does not make it ok.
Ok, i'll leave you to get on with your pointless bickering/pythonesque humour.....
If you think that this is the most offensive thing posted on this thread then I'm at a loss as to how to respond to you.
I hope for your sake you don't have children who have special needs or learning difficulties and have to endure others who think it is ok to be flippant with language in such a way.
And of course the world has other problems or other offensive things. This imho does not make it ok.
Ok, i'll leave you to get on with your pointless bickering/pythonesque humour.....
TTwiggy said:
MrNoisy said:
You do need a lesson but are too stubborn to accept it.
Clue - spastic was a current word in the 90s but also hideously offensive in certain context. The same as special is now. It is not a difficult concept.
If your background is as you say then you should understand this more than others.
Do you seriously think you can undo offence by saying 'it was not serious'?
you can have a go at a proper apology if you like? Or you can continue being offensive for no reason towards people with special needs and their close family.
This is obviously a big deal to you and realistically I don't think I'm going to make any headway with you, no matter how grovelling my apology might be.Clue - spastic was a current word in the 90s but also hideously offensive in certain context. The same as special is now. It is not a difficult concept.
If your background is as you say then you should understand this more than others.
Do you seriously think you can undo offence by saying 'it was not serious'?
you can have a go at a proper apology if you like? Or you can continue being offensive for no reason towards people with special needs and their close family.
If you think that this is the most offensive thing posted on this thread then I'm at a loss as to how to respond to you.
gavsdavs said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
Just as if you said White's in London would be a minority by 2015.
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But that could just be me with my tinfoil hat.
We had this argument last week. It's b.
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But that could just be me with my tinfoil hat.
ks.Yes it's you with your tinfoil hat and limited education
As for the education comment I assume you have studded in the field of population demographics and have qualifications in such field?
W124 said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
As usual points are made and questions asked, and the normal response is given. None of the points are tackled none of the questions answered. Well unless you count the Neanderthals argument didn't become extinct when the fact is they did. Or the vague meaningless pseudo argument about what is culture.
What you get intend is name calling attempted ridicule usually in the form of look he spelt a word wrong ha ha ha. And then the usual "what are you doing here? go away we don't like what you are saying."
The question was do you believe the deaths of hundreds if not thousands is a price worth paying for this modern cultural enrichment. Have the benefits outweigh the negatives if so please explain?
What are these many deaths of which you speak?What you get intend is name calling attempted ridicule usually in the form of look he spelt a word wrong ha ha ha. And then the usual "what are you doing here? go away we don't like what you are saying."
The question was do you believe the deaths of hundreds if not thousands is a price worth paying for this modern cultural enrichment. Have the benefits outweigh the negatives if so please explain?
Not-The-Messiah said:
If you said 20-30 years ago that the top boys name would be Mohammed or how ever you want to spell it. You would have been laughed at and called a racist tinfoil hat idiot. Just as if you said White's in London would be a minority by 2015.
But they have been proven right. And the same or similar people today are predicting and warning if things don't change or even worryingly that's its now to late to change. Things are going to get worse and much worse.
And what do the people who time and time again get it wrong do? They do the exactly the same things and call them racist and stupid.
The white Anglo Saxon Christian culture is now doomed in this country. Replaced by God knows what but its almost certain to lead to secular wars and massive social problems. But that could just be me with my tinfoil hat.
Recently the most popular surname at my secondary school changed from Smith. To Patel. But they have been proven right. And the same or similar people today are predicting and warning if things don't change or even worryingly that's its now to late to change. Things are going to get worse and much worse.
And what do the people who time and time again get it wrong do? They do the exactly the same things and call them racist and stupid.
The white Anglo Saxon Christian culture is now doomed in this country. Replaced by God knows what but its almost certain to lead to secular wars and massive social problems. But that could just be me with my tinfoil hat.
Oh, wait. That didn't happen "recently". It happened just over 30 years ago.
Look up. See the sky? It's not falling.
Stickyfinger said:
Breadvan72 said:
"Should of"? Hmmm, what is it about Brexiteers and a lack of basic education, I wonder?
Have....Ok now ? Why the use of the second comma, Shirley it is superfluous ?
This is yours btw
Edited by Stickyfinger on Thursday 21st September 12:57
Comma use is mostly a matter of style, although sometimes a matter of grammar. The comma has various uses, one of those being to indicate the point at which a speaker might pause briefly if speaking the thing that is being written.
MrTumble said:
I genuinely think you don't get it so you're right about the headway thing.
I hope for your sake you don't have children who have special needs or learning difficulties and have to endure others who think it is ok to be flippant with language in such a way.
And of course the world has other problems or other offensive things. This imho does not make it ok.
Ok, i'll leave you to get on with your pointless bickering/pythonesque humour.....
If you think that this is the most offensive thing posted on this thread then I'm at a loss as to how to respond to you.
This argument is:I hope for your sake you don't have children who have special needs or learning difficulties and have to endure others who think it is ok to be flippant with language in such a way.
And of course the world has other problems or other offensive things. This imho does not make it ok.
Ok, i'll leave you to get on with your pointless bickering/pythonesque humour.....
Friends said:
MrTumble said:
You do need a lesson but are too stubborn to accept it.
Clue - spastic was a current word in the 90s but also hideously offensive in certain context. The same as special is now. It is not a difficult concept.
If your background is as you say then you should understand this more than others.
Do you seriously think you can undo offence by saying 'it was not serious'?
you can have a go at a proper apology if you like? Or you can continue being offensive for no reason towards people with special needs and their close family.
This is obviously a big deal to you and realistically I don't think I'm going to make any headway with you, no matter how grovelling my apology might be.Clue - spastic was a current word in the 90s but also hideously offensive in certain context. The same as special is now. It is not a difficult concept.
If your background is as you say then you should understand this more than others.
Do you seriously think you can undo offence by saying 'it was not serious'?
you can have a go at a proper apology if you like? Or you can continue being offensive for no reason towards people with special needs and their close family.
If you think that this is the most offensive thing posted on this thread then I'm at a loss as to how to respond to you.
Breadvan72 said:
Cheers, but I'm off the nuts - yummy but too fattening.
Comma use is mostly a matter of style, although sometimes a matter of grammar. The comma has various uses, one of those being to indicate the point at which a speaker might pause briefly if speaking the thing that is being written.
Youis soo funny...........really mate, (paws) lighten upComma use is mostly a matter of style, although sometimes a matter of grammar. The comma has various uses, one of those being to indicate the point at which a speaker might pause briefly if speaking the thing that is being written.
Breadvan72 said:
Eric Mc said:
Roman Rhodes said:
Snide dig at Ford from the BL shed fanboy? Even the Granada was German. Get some Essex metal in the garage!
Speaking of which - it should be a gas - http://codymusical.co.uk/productions/current/curre...
I have to admit - it didn't have a very long run on the West End.But we do get a bit fed up doing "standards" like "South Pacific" and "HMS Pinafore". It's good for us to do shows that are a bit more modern.
Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 21st September 13:38
Not the Messiah, I am going to assume (perhaps unwisely) that you are not merely trolling and that you really believe the stuff that you post. I will be blunt and say that your posts indicate that you are poorly informed. You appear to have views that are prejudiced, based on misunderstandings about history, and about how economics and demographics work. The only antidote to being poorly informed is to read a lot and/or to watch informative videos online. TED Talks by Rosling and others would be a start. A good one volume history of Europe would help. Perhaps also some basic economics stuff eg selections from Adam Smith.
Also, try looking up from the pages of right wing echo chamber media sources, and look around Britain. Most of Britain remains white and rather, well, British. There are places with localised majorities of migrants. There are problems with lack of integration and with radicalism and so on. Successive governments have failed to provide infrastructure to meet the pressure posed by localised concentrations of migrants. There are problems exacerbated by ignorance and by deliberately irresponsible media and politicians.
On migration generally, economic analyses indicate that Europe needs migrants to tackle what would otherwise be a shortage of population. The idea that "they" will "outbreed" "us" is not supported by the data.
Also, no culture is fixed. It is historically daft to suggest that one particular cultural group which happens to have occupied a particular bit of land has some innate right to remain the dominant culture in that locality. Cultures are, however, robust. Western culture has existed in a slowly changing form for millennia. It shows no sign of going away. It is the most successful form of culture known to have existed. It has produced the best solutions to human problems, by inventing things such as democracy, the rule of law, and capitalism. It is also very militant and armed to the teeth.
Stop worrying so much! There are problems, but the sky really is not falling. You appear to be in a panic because some hatey nutters are managing to kill some people each year with terrorist outrages. Not many decades ago, some hatey nutters who belonged to the same culture as us (more or less) were raining fire and mass death on us from the skies, and we were doing it to them. We came through that. I am sorry to say this, as it is a bit of a cliche, but Keep Calm and Carry On.
[Edited because typo-Nazis R Us]
Also, try looking up from the pages of right wing echo chamber media sources, and look around Britain. Most of Britain remains white and rather, well, British. There are places with localised majorities of migrants. There are problems with lack of integration and with radicalism and so on. Successive governments have failed to provide infrastructure to meet the pressure posed by localised concentrations of migrants. There are problems exacerbated by ignorance and by deliberately irresponsible media and politicians.
On migration generally, economic analyses indicate that Europe needs migrants to tackle what would otherwise be a shortage of population. The idea that "they" will "outbreed" "us" is not supported by the data.
Also, no culture is fixed. It is historically daft to suggest that one particular cultural group which happens to have occupied a particular bit of land has some innate right to remain the dominant culture in that locality. Cultures are, however, robust. Western culture has existed in a slowly changing form for millennia. It shows no sign of going away. It is the most successful form of culture known to have existed. It has produced the best solutions to human problems, by inventing things such as democracy, the rule of law, and capitalism. It is also very militant and armed to the teeth.
Stop worrying so much! There are problems, but the sky really is not falling. You appear to be in a panic because some hatey nutters are managing to kill some people each year with terrorist outrages. Not many decades ago, some hatey nutters who belonged to the same culture as us (more or less) were raining fire and mass death on us from the skies, and we were doing it to them. We came through that. I am sorry to say this, as it is a bit of a cliche, but Keep Calm and Carry On.
[Edited because typo-Nazis R Us]
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 21st September 13:52
Breadvan72 said:
Eric Mc said:
Roman Rhodes said:
Snide dig at Ford from the BL shed fanboy? Even the Granada was German. Get some Essex metal in the garage!
Speaking of which - it should be a gas - http://codymusical.co.uk/productions/current/curre...
Breadvan72 said:
Not the Messiah, I am going to assume (perhaps unwisely) that you are not merely trolling and that you really believe the stuff that you post. I will be blunt and say that [u]you[u/] your posts indicate that you are poorly informed.
I gave up correcting the rest as I did not wish to point out your lack of, intelligence. Edited by Stickyfinger on Thursday 21st September 13:51
Roman Rhodes said:
Having been Ilford born and bred in the halcyon days of yore, I was taught to look down on all things Dagenham. A bit like Barking but lacking the charm. However, kangarooing an Escort 1100 around the Becontree estate when learning to drive in 1976 did give me a certain affection for the place. Are people really paying mega-bucks for these cars now?
All 1970s Fords, even the most crap ones, are now worth MEGALOTZ. The actually good ones are worth UBER TONS. Because market forces. Because hipsters. PS: Because hipsters, and because trickledown effects of 2007-8 financial crash, even Allegros and Marinas are now being sold for quite a lot.
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