Labour Conference....total maddness or even possable ?

Labour Conference....total maddness or even possable ?

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pss1

339 posts

258 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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All things are, err, possable if you put your mind to it.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

108 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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What about Trident submarine

98elise

26,589 posts

161 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Unfortunately they promising lots of "free" stuff to self entitled people who don't realise they will be paying for it anyway.

Anyone old enough to remember nationalised industries will know how crap they were. Anyone who has ever worked in the Public Sector will know things are no different now.

anonymous-user

54 months

edh

3,498 posts

269 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
A bad idea...

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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I think that Corbyn and McD are idiots, but leave them aside for a moment.

Back in the mid 1940s, lots of stuff was nationalised, and the sky failed to fall. Indeed, things went quite well for quite a bit. Much of the so called privatisation of the last few decades hasn't been real privatisation - it has been conjuring with balance sheets. Much risk has remained with the public (sometimes with reward going elsewhere). Recent events show that even banks can get nationalised without Communism suddenly happening.

EU State aid rules would, however, pose some potential hurdles to some models of nationalisation. The EU is widely mistaken for a socialist thing, but in fact it is a capitalist thing, which is why Corbyn is a Brexiteer. I reiterate that Corbyn is an idiot.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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edh said:
Breadvan72 said:
A bad idea...
Who would be better?

Wait Here Until Green Light Shows

15,227 posts

200 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Stickyfinger said:
Good god, the man is a dangerous loon !
In a post about the Labour party - you need to be more specific. Which Man specifically?



Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
He was really not very good on Today this morning. He looks shifty for the way he's trying to distance himself from the uber debacle and he's weak on the subject of the EU. He talked about the concept of not having access to the single market. That's North Korea territory. Everyone has access. It's a question of tariffs and non-tariff barriers. He needs to be better briefed and he should take responsibility for the uber situation and for resolving it. Uber is a big vote loser for him. Siding with the vested interests of the unions and the LTDA to kill a service used by younger Londoners (and me) and put 40,000 people out of work is not a good look.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
edh said:
Breadvan72 said:
A bad idea...
Who would be better?
Tony (without the war bit)....

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
What about Trident submarine
Take the missiles out, remove the reactor and replace with momentum activists hot air generator and use it as a bus to get people around the coastal towns looking for work.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Tony's war crimes, egregious though they be, are not his worst crimes - the frauds on the public finances are worse (much of that was about fake or semi privatisations). So, not him.

768

13,680 posts

96 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
Back in the mid 1940s, lots of stuff was nationalised, and the sky failed to fall. Indeed, things went quite well for quite a bit.
If we have another world war on our doorstep it might be appropriate again.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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The war was over.

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Zod said:
He was really not very good on Today this morning. He looks shifty for the way he's trying to distance himself from the uber debacle and he's weak on the subject of the EU. He talked about the concept of not having access to the single market. That's North Korea territory. Everyone has access. It's a question of tariffs and non-tariff barriers. He needs to be better briefed and he should take responsibility for the uber situation and for resolving it. Uber is a big vote loser for him. Siding with the vested interests of the unions and the LTDA to kill a service used by younger Londoners (and me) and put 40,000 people out of work is not a good look.
I heard him on Today during the election campaign and he wasn't very good then either - talked about renationalising utilities without increasing the national debt. When questioned on this, he said a Labour government would issue bonds to pay for it. This from the man who would be chancellor. Oh, and parliament will apparently set the price to be paid for the shares in these companies - that should end well.

Lance Catamaran

24,980 posts

227 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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If they were to take power, our economy would be in the hands of a self-avowed Marxist who has previously called for insurrection against the elected government and abolition of the security services and armed police. Too scary to even think about, but Corbyn's cult of personality is now such that anything that isn't glowing praise will be dismissed as propaganda.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

108 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Who is Big Red Mac?

manic47

734 posts

165 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Comrade McDonnell.

andymadmak

14,560 posts

270 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Breadvan72 said:


Back in the mid 1940s, lots of stuff was nationalised, and the sky failed to fall. Indeed, things went quite well for quite a bit.
right up until the money started to run out....and the publicly owned industries were starved of the investment they needed if they were to modernise and adapt to remain in any way competitive.

By the 1970s the effects of that lack of investment became acute as Governments of the day grappled with the demands that money be spent on other parts of the economy/public services. This, coupled with crap products, terrible management, bolshy Unions (who felt that they could hold the country to ransom on behalf of their members) meant that publicly owned industries were a national disgrace.

Can you imagine the state of modern day telecommunications in this country if the GPO was still in charge of it?

MKnight702

3,109 posts

214 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Presumably they will be funding the vote buying by liberally watering the magic money tree with the blood of the "rich" as usual.