Labour Conference....total maddness or even possable ?
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wormus said:
Don't think so, look - I've found his Multipass:
HmmWikipedia and others have it spelt Korben. I'm willing to accept however, that it IS a fantasy sci-fi film where we only hear most things spoken, rather than see them written down. And that all of this is taking us wildly off topic.
Bruce Willis would not be the right person to lead the Labour party.
Shakermaker said:
Hmm
Wikipedia and others have it spelt Korben. I'm willing to accept however, that it IS a fantasy sci-fi film where we only hear most things spoken, rather than see them written down. And that all of this is taking us wildly off topic.
Bruce Willis would not be the right person to lead the Labour party.
Agreed, although he wouldn't be able to travel through the galaxy if they'd spelt his name wrong. Someone would notice.Wikipedia and others have it spelt Korben. I'm willing to accept however, that it IS a fantasy sci-fi film where we only hear most things spoken, rather than see them written down. And that all of this is taking us wildly off topic.
Bruce Willis would not be the right person to lead the Labour party.
I also think he'd make a very entertaining leader.
MKnight702 said:
At one point we were designing about 4 different V10 engines for Audi, each department determined that their V10 would be the best.
Competition at the design stage? One assumes even if the department was dysfunctional as you describe - that they eventually picked the best one for the job in hand. A V10 is going into a supercar or uber-premium car so there is more financial headroom for experiment and to find a good design.Digga said:
Breadvan72 said:
Blair, Mandy, Adonis, all that lot - they should be in jail for all the PFI and assorted scammery and book cooking. Blair should get consecutive jail time for illegal warmaking. He gets mitigation for doing some good stuff, including some just war stuff in Sierra Leone and Kosovo, but also for some domestic good stuff eg minimum wage and civil partnerships and school investment, but not academies.
Agree with most of that, but why let Brown off the hook? Aside from pissing our national gold up the wall, he enacted what is, in many respects, the single most nihilistic and destructive piece of legislation for pensions, destroying, in an instant, any propensity to save and necessitating multiple further legislation (ongoing) to try to redress the issue.Bruce Willis: tends to wear a vest and cause a lot of destruction wherever he goes.
Jeremy Corbyn: tends to wear a vest and threatens to cause a lot of destruction wherever he goes.
I am just saying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CesIkS9a0bw
Jeremy Corbyn: tends to wear a vest and threatens to cause a lot of destruction wherever he goes.
I am just saying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CesIkS9a0bw
Vaud said:
Breadvan72 said:
Blair, Mandy, Adonis, all that lot - they should be in jail for all the PFI and assorted scammery and book cooking. Blair should get consecutive jail time for illegal warmaking. He gets mitigation for doing some good stuff, including some just war stuff in Sierra Leone and Kosovo, but also for some domestic good stuff eg minimum wage and civil partnerships and school investment, but not academies.
+ paternity leaveBreadvan72 said:
That it was one of the most ludicrous and historically ill informed statements that I have read on PH for a while, and given that PH is a leading World Heritage Centre of ludicrous and historically ill informed statements, that is quite an accolade. The Korean War and its consequences are all down to the Russians being ready with some MiG 15s? Really? It is hard to know where to begin in debunking such a ridiculous claim, and frankly I CBA even to start. Dude, read some books, dude.
Also, you write off all of the achievements of the Attlee government because it gave the Soviets a slight leg up in obtaining a technology that they would have got anyway a bit later? Yes, that is very balanced. NHS? Pah! Education Act 1945? Pah! Children Act 1948? Pah! National Parks? Pah! First ever town and country planning system? Pah! Indian independence? Pah! Berlin Airlift? Pah! Festival of Britain? Pah! But, oh noes, they gave the Russians jet engines!
Wars turn on such technological legs up, the arrival of the MIG-15 made a huge difference to the direction of the war in Korea.Also, you write off all of the achievements of the Attlee government because it gave the Soviets a slight leg up in obtaining a technology that they would have got anyway a bit later? Yes, that is very balanced. NHS? Pah! Education Act 1945? Pah! Children Act 1948? Pah! National Parks? Pah! First ever town and country planning system? Pah! Indian independence? Pah! Berlin Airlift? Pah! Festival of Britain? Pah! But, oh noes, they gave the Russians jet engines!
Edited by Breadvan72 on Tuesday 26th September 07:38
Indian independence and the partition into India, East and West Pakistan and the way that was managed where people the day before independence didn't even know what country they would be in, that led to the largest mass movement of people in history where millions of lives were lost in violence is one of the largest blots on the history of Britain. That gave us the now unstable relationship between two nuclear states. You cant possibly think the way Atlee's government managed that process was a success story?
Read up on the Yalu River air fighting - the MiG 15 was good, but was often flown by low hours pilots (and some Russian WW2 Super-Ace stone killers too - the UN pilots never knew which one they were getting), and it was outclassed by the Sabre and its better trained pilots.
I agree re India and Pakistan. The good point is that the Government honoured a promise and started the sensible withdrawal from Empire. Mountbatten cocked up Partition and Attlee let him, so that is indeed a blot.
I still think that you are being unfair in overall assessment of what, if you can try to be even a bit bipartisan, was a good government that made lasting improvements to the UK.
I agree re India and Pakistan. The good point is that the Government honoured a promise and started the sensible withdrawal from Empire. Mountbatten cocked up Partition and Attlee let him, so that is indeed a blot.
I still think that you are being unfair in overall assessment of what, if you can try to be even a bit bipartisan, was a good government that made lasting improvements to the UK.
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 26th September 12:54
Shakermaker said:
Has anyone mentioned in here the bizarre demands of Dianne Abbott that some constituencies should only select Black or Ethnic minority candidates for the shortlist for the Labour Party candidate?
It was something I saw on the news on maybe Sunday.
I don't think it is the right way to go, even if there is the desire to increase the represenation of black and ethnic minority people with MPs of similar background. I also don't know if Jeremy Corbyn has given his backing to this
Its no less bizarre that women only shortlists implemented under Blair, both should be illegal under discrimination laws. It was something I saw on the news on maybe Sunday.
I don't think it is the right way to go, even if there is the desire to increase the represenation of black and ethnic minority people with MPs of similar background. I also don't know if Jeremy Corbyn has given his backing to this
Shakermaker said:
wormus said:
Don't think so, look - I've found his Multipass:
HmmWikipedia and others have it spelt Korben. I'm willing to accept however, that it IS a fantasy sci-fi film where we only hear most things spoken, rather than see them written down. And that all of this is taking us wildly off topic.
Bruce Willis would not be the right person to lead the Labour party.
Shakermaker said:
wormus said:
Don't think so, look - I've found his Multipass:
HmmWikipedia and others have it spelt Korben. I'm willing to accept however, that it IS a fantasy sci-fi film where we only hear most things spoken, rather than see them written down. And that all of this is taking us wildly off topic.
Bruce Willis would not be the right person to lead the Labour party.
http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0003667/?ref_=ttfc...
Clucking bell.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41393021
I guess we ought to be grateful he's planning for economic apocalypse if he gets the keys to Number 11.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41393021
I guess we ought to be grateful he's planning for economic apocalypse if he gets the keys to Number 11.
article said:
"What if there is a run on the pound? What happens if there is this concept of capital flight? I don't think there will be, but you never know.
"We've got to start work now… how exactly are we going to manage these industries when we take them back into public ownership? And let's start doing the detailed work now.
"We've got to start work now… how exactly are we going to manage these industries when we take them back into public ownership? And let's start doing the detailed work now.
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