More money to find missing girl

More money to find missing girl

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Biggy Stardust

6,835 posts

44 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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Cold said:
Updating this ancient thread.

In a surprise move, more bottles of Factor 30 sun cream and some new golf balls have been ordered by the Met.

Oh, and on a completely different subject, they are to be given a further £300,000 towards the investigation of a missing girl to top up the previous £13m already spent since 2007.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mc...
Tell me about the incredible shortage of resources for day to day policing.

Also tell me when Portugal came within the jurisdiction of our police.

Will there be another press briefing where the nice detectives turn up late due to going out on the lash the previous evening?

Cold

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15,243 posts

90 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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In another twist, the Polish woman Julia Wendell has now submitted DNA samples for testing in a bid to confirm her claims of being a long lost missing girl.

Sheepshanks

32,746 posts

119 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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Biggy Stardust said:
Also tell me when Portugal came within the jurisdiction of our police.
She's British so as a general principle I'm fine with that.

Collectingbrass

2,208 posts

195 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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Just as a side note, my daughter who is 8 years older, and I have only just linked up why she keeps getting asked if she's been to Portugal when she goes for an eye test - my daughter's eyes are two different colours and Opticians are (still) briefed to ask.

  1. CoolStoryBro I know but it never occurred to me that it would be something Opticians would be involved in.

The Hypno-Toad

12,280 posts

205 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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Cold said:
Updating this ancient thread.

In a surprise move, more bottles of Factor 30 sun cream and some new golf balls have been ordered by the Met.

Oh, and on a completely different subject, they are to be given a further £300,000 towards the investigation of a missing girl to top up the previous £13m already spent since 2007.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mc...
No. No. This is obscene now, this has to stop.

This isn’t funny anymore, it’s not annoying, it’s not even ridiculous, it’s now beyond that, it’s downright fking scandalous.

She’s dead. There you go, I’ve solved the case. She is dead. There might not be a body yet but she’s dead. The Portuguese police know that, the Portuguese media know that and the parents must by now know that.

This is a shocking waste of public money and resources at a time when the public’s opinion of the police is at an all time low and quite literally no one except her family cares anymore.

Seriously, this needs to stop. They are taking the piss.



steveo3002

10,515 posts

174 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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seriously, whats the idea behind this other than a holiday? are they suggesting theres some scraps of evidence still laying around to be found or maybe a local witness that wasn't aware of the incident ?

iphonedyou

9,248 posts

157 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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The Hypno-Toad said:
quite literally no one except her family cares anymore.
Well that's patently untrue.

darreni

3,788 posts

270 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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What’s happened to the German suspect who they were sure was involved?

It does seem bizarre that this case continues to receive funding

PurpleTurtle

6,980 posts

144 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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steveo3002 said:
seriously, whats the idea behind this other than a holiday? are they suggesting theres some scraps of evidence still laying around to be found or maybe a local witness that wasn't aware of the incident ?
In these days of Zoom meetings etc I don't think there is any suggestion that any of the Operation Grange coppers will be off to the Algarve to reduce their gold handicap, in all likelihood it will pay salaries of a few coppers left on the case for another year.

One does wonder what they are actually doing day after day though? The trail went cold a very long time ago.

Christian Brueckner remains the only realistic suspect, he is banged up in a German prison and seems confident that they don't have any actual evidence to charge him, although circumstantially and given his record in that location I personally think he is the perpetrator - just my opinion.

I note that the 'Donate' button on the Find Madeleine page is still operative. What exactly are they funding through that now, one wonders?


Muzzer79

9,923 posts

187 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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The Hypno-Toad said:
Cold said:
Updating this ancient thread.

In a surprise move, more bottles of Factor 30 sun cream and some new golf balls have been ordered by the Met.

Oh, and on a completely different subject, they are to be given a further £300,000 towards the investigation of a missing girl to top up the previous £13m already spent since 2007.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mc...
No. No. This is obscene now, this has to stop.

This isn’t funny anymore, it’s not annoying, it’s not even ridiculous, it’s now beyond that, it’s downright fking scandalous.

She’s dead. There you go, I’ve solved the case. She is dead. There might not be a body yet but she’s dead. The Portuguese police know that, the Portuguese media know that and the parents must by now know that.

This is a shocking waste of public money and resources at a time when the public’s opinion of the police is at an all time low and quite literally no one except her family cares anymore.

Seriously, this needs to stop. They are taking the piss.
Whilst it's notable that not all missing person cases have this level of attention and consequently funding and I agree that questions need to be asked about prioritisation of funds, I think you're looking at this too binarily.

The general public still cares - can you imagine the media attention if she was found? (in whatever state)

I think everyone involves knows that she is by far more likely to be dead, but this is about finding what's left of her - getting closure.

If your 3 year old daughter was abducted, wouldn't you want/need that closure? I would.

Gecko1978

9,700 posts

157 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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Are the suspects still

Some block who lived near by but just wanted to help

Some bloke in prison in Germany

HER PARENTS

The Hypno-Toad

12,280 posts

205 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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Muzzer79 said:
Whilst it's notable that not all missing person cases have this level of attention and consequently funding and I agree that questions need to be asked about prioritisation of funds, I think you're looking at this too binarily.

The general public still cares - can you imagine the media attention if she was found? (in whatever state)

I think everyone involves knows that she is by far more likely to be dead, but this is about finding what's left of her - getting closure.

If your 3 year old daughter was abducted, wouldn't you want/need that closure? I would.
I don't think the general public actually do. Support for the parents seemed to drop off when they published that slightly off kilter book. I think there would be a shrug of the shoulders and a "that's sad" from most people. The world has moved on.

Its very difficult for me to comment about if she was my daughter. I don't have any kids but I would like to think I would have realised the situation by now and tried to come to terms with it. Even the vaguest suggestion that she had been kidnapped to be a child slave or to demand for a childless couple never stood any scrutiny as she would be too easily recognised. I am sorry if sound completely callous but she's dead and the last thing I would want if I had accepted that is a bunch of detectives using it as an excuse to improve their swing.

The poor parents of Genette Tate died without any closure, they had to watch their case slowly peter out as the police and the media lost interest & her disappearance was even more mysterious than Maddie. But then again, times have changed. For one thing they didn't ring the news desk of Westward TV to give them an update almost as soon as they discovered their child was missing.

Still I'm sure the police will be able to extend their stay in sunnier crimes. Didn't the Maire Celeste get towed to Portugal when she was found? Maybe they can get some new leads for that case.

Muzzer79

9,923 posts

187 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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The Hypno-Toad said:
Muzzer79 said:
Whilst it's notable that not all missing person cases have this level of attention and consequently funding and I agree that questions need to be asked about prioritisation of funds, I think you're looking at this too binarily.

The general public still cares - can you imagine the media attention if she was found? (in whatever state)

I think everyone involves knows that she is by far more likely to be dead, but this is about finding what's left of her - getting closure.

If your 3 year old daughter was abducted, wouldn't you want/need that closure? I would.
I don't think the general public actually do. Support for the parents seemed to drop off when they published that slightly off kilter book. I think there would be a shrug of the shoulders and a "that's sad" from most people. The world has moved on.

Its very difficult for me to comment about if she was my daughter. I don't have any kids but I would like to think I would have realised the situation by now and tried to come to terms with it. Even the vaguest suggestion that she had been kidnapped to be a child slave or to demand for a childless couple never stood any scrutiny as she would be too easily recognised. I am sorry if sound completely callous but she's dead and the last thing I would want if I had accepted that is a bunch of detectives using it as an excuse to improve their swing.
Trust me, there are enough Maddie-fanatics out there who project their own children onto this case to really care.

I don't have any kids either but I think you can never 'accept' the situation whilst you don't 100% know. Accepting and dealing with a child's death is probably the hardest thing in the world to do. Accepting it without knowing for sure that it's occurred would be, I imagine, impossible.

If I were the parents, I wouldn't care what the investigators were doing as long as something was being done.

Again, I do agree that there is a question of priority of funds - how long does this go on for? It's tough for the Police.....at what point do you shut down the search for a 3 year old British citizen who has been abducted from a popular holiday spot and, seemingly, vanished?

One assumes that once the case is closed, it's very difficult to re-open it if new evidence (potentially from the German fella) comes to light.



Sheepshanks

32,746 posts

119 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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Collectingbrass said:
Just as a side note, my daughter who is 8 years older, and I have only just linked up why she keeps getting asked if she's been to Portugal when she goes for an eye test - my daughter's eyes are two different colours and Opticians are (still) briefed to ask.

  1. CoolStoryBro I know but it never occurred to me that it would be something Opticians would be involved in.
Hmm...really?

I could vaguely imagine them looking, weighing up the girl's age, and reporting it.

But asking them? Are they expecting a kid to say "yes, and I came home with different parents to the ones I went out with"?

At the age Maddie was when she went missing she probably wouldn't remember where she went on holiday anyway.

V8covin

7,306 posts

193 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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Unless there's new evidence the police shouldn't be putting any resources on it.
The same goes for any cold case.
They are cold cases for a reason, because they've investigated every possible avenue and come to a dead end.
If new evidence appears then fine,investigate,but setting a budget of £300,000 makes no logical sense whatsoever

eccles

13,733 posts

222 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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V8covin said:
Unless there's new evidence the police shouldn't be putting any resources on it.
The same goes for any cold case.
They are cold cases for a reason, because they've investigated every possible avenue and come to a dead end.
If new evidence appears then fine,investigate,but setting a budget of £300,000 makes no logical sense whatsoever
There's a series on at the moment about cold cases. New technology comes along and gets new evidence. I'm all for periodical reviews of old unsolved cases.

V8covin

7,306 posts

193 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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eccles said:
There's a series on at the moment about cold cases. New technology comes along and gets new evidence. I'm all for periodical reviews of old unsolved cases.
What new police technologies are there since 2007 ?

eccles

13,733 posts

222 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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V8covin said:
eccles said:
There's a series on at the moment about cold cases. New technology comes along and gets new evidence. I'm all for periodical reviews of old unsolved cases.
What new police technologies are there since 2007 ?
You just said cold cases earlier, suddenly now it's since 2007. I dare say there are better DNA and other forensic techniques since 2007.

Cold

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15,243 posts

90 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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eccles said:
V8covin said:
eccles said:
There's a series on at the moment about cold cases. New technology comes along and gets new evidence. I'm all for periodical reviews of old unsolved cases.
What new police technologies are there since 2007 ?
You just said cold cases earlier, suddenly now it's since 2007. I dare say there are better DNA and other forensic techniques since 2007.
I suspect 2007 is pertinent because that's the year a young British girl went missing in Portugal.

V8covin

7,306 posts

193 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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Cold said:
I suspect 2007 is pertinent because that's the year a young British girl went missing in Portugal.
There's no hope with some people mate lol