More money to find missing girl
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In a newspaper story completely unrelated to this thread, a father has opened up to Radio 4 about his struggles with mental health after a traumatic family event some years ago.
The interviewee suggests that this might help other men in similar positions. So if you're ever in a similar position to the man being interviewed, feel free to be totally open and honest with any authority.
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The interviewee suggests that this might help other men in similar positions. So if you're ever in a similar position to the man being interviewed, feel free to be totally open and honest with any authority.
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Cold said:
In a newspaper story completely unrelated to this thread, a father has opened up to Radio 4 about his struggles with mental health after a traumatic family event some years ago.
The interviewee suggests that this might help other men in similar positions. So if you're ever in a similar position to the man being interviewed, feel free to be totally open and honest with any authority.
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No shame that The interviewee suggests that this might help other men in similar positions. So if you're ever in a similar position to the man being interviewed, feel free to be totally open and honest with any authority.
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.Wonder how Maddy feels? How about the twins knowing they have the s
ttest parents in the world?Mothersruin said:
Cold said:
In a newspaper story completely unrelated to this thread, a father has opened up to Radio 4 about his struggles with mental health after a traumatic family event some years ago.
The interviewee suggests that this might help other men in similar positions. So if you're ever in a similar position to the man being interviewed, feel free to be totally open and honest with any authority.
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No shame that The interviewee suggests that this might help other men in similar positions. So if you're ever in a similar position to the man being interviewed, feel free to be totally open and honest with any authority.
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.Wonder how Maddy feels? How about the twins knowing they have the s
ttest parents in the world?Edited by HTP99 on Monday 17th September 13:11
Cold said:
In a newspaper story completely unrelated to this thread, a father has opened up to Radio 4 about his struggles with mental health after a traumatic family event some years ago.
The interviewee suggests that this might help other men in similar positions. So if you're ever in a similar position to the man being interviewed, feel free to be totally open and honest with any authority.
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I am unlikely to have any more children. But if I do and accidently kill one then at least I can refer back to this article.The interviewee suggests that this might help other men in similar positions. So if you're ever in a similar position to the man being interviewed, feel free to be totally open and honest with any authority.
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Thanks for the link
The PR onslaught continues.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6178661/P...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6178661/P...
The Mail said:
A fund set up to help find Madeline McCann could be wiped out if her parents lose a court case which is due to start in the next few weeks.
Kate and Gerry McCann are returning to court to fight against the ex-detective who claimed they were responsible for Madeline's death.
If they lose the case Madeline's parents will be forced to pay Goncalo Amaral £750,000, after he made a bid to sue them for compensation.
The couple will face Amaral in the European Court, as public money which was funding the search for Madeline is about to dry up.
A source told the Sun: 'It seems you can say anything you like about someone in Portugal, no matter how awful, and get away with it.
'If the European Court rules against them the trustees will decide on how best to make any payments.
'It would be a blow but Kate and Gerry would keep their heads up and carry on searching.'
It is believed that Kate and Gerry have had to take money from the fund in the past to cover costs of previous hearings.
Retired Det Chief Insp Mick Neville, who last year investigated the case, said: 'It is tragic that funds to try to find her could be lost because of this legal action.
'There is every reason to believe she may be alive.'
I thought the fund was there to find the child - not pay their ill-advised legal fees and damages.Kate and Gerry McCann are returning to court to fight against the ex-detective who claimed they were responsible for Madeline's death.
If they lose the case Madeline's parents will be forced to pay Goncalo Amaral £750,000, after he made a bid to sue them for compensation.
The couple will face Amaral in the European Court, as public money which was funding the search for Madeline is about to dry up.
A source told the Sun: 'It seems you can say anything you like about someone in Portugal, no matter how awful, and get away with it.
'If the European Court rules against them the trustees will decide on how best to make any payments.
'It would be a blow but Kate and Gerry would keep their heads up and carry on searching.'
It is believed that Kate and Gerry have had to take money from the fund in the past to cover costs of previous hearings.
Retired Det Chief Insp Mick Neville, who last year investigated the case, said: 'It is tragic that funds to try to find her could be lost because of this legal action.
'There is every reason to believe she may be alive.'
Re: Gerry appearing on R4 to talk about it.
Mothersruin said:
No shame that .
Staggering..Gerry McCann said:
I decided it was a good opportunity to say something about the special bond between fathers and daughters, thinking that speaking openly might help other men in similar positions. It feels like the right time.
A bond so special, he left them alone in an apartment whilst going out on the piss. Is he some kind of sociopath? I genuinely do have no words.The Mail said:
'It would be a blow but Kate and Gerry would keep their heads up and carry on searching.'
How exactly Kate and Jerry searching? Seems they want others to do it and taxpayers fund it while they sit on a load of cash and threaten/sue/silence people who aren't sycophantic towards them.The Mail said:
Retired Det Chief Insp Mick Neville, who last year investigated the case, said: 'It is tragic that funds to try to find her could be lost because of this legal action.
Don't sue then people then. snake_oil said:
The PR onslaught continues.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6178661/P...
This story, which started life in the soaraway Sun, is all over the place like a madwoman's shttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6178661/P...
The Mail said:
A fund set up to help find Madeline McCann could be wiped out if her parents lose a court case which is due to start in the next few weeks.
Kate and Gerry McCann are returning to court to fight against the ex-detective who claimed they were responsible for Madeline's death.
If they lose the case Madeline's parents will be forced to pay Goncalo Amaral £750,000, after he made a bid to sue them for compensation.
The couple will face Amaral in the European Court, as public money which was funding the search for Madeline is about to dry up.
A source told the Sun: 'It seems you can say anything you like about someone in Portugal, no matter how awful, and get away with it.
'If the European Court rules against them the trustees will decide on how best to make any payments.
'It would be a blow but Kate and Gerry would keep their heads up and carry on searching.'
It is believed that Kate and Gerry have had to take money from the fund in the past to cover costs of previous hearings.
Retired Det Chief Insp Mick Neville, who last year investigated the case, said: 'It is tragic that funds to try to find her could be lost because of this legal action.
'There is every reason to believe she may be alive.'
I thought the fund was there to find the child - not pay their ill-advised legal fees and damages.Kate and Gerry McCann are returning to court to fight against the ex-detective who claimed they were responsible for Madeline's death.
If they lose the case Madeline's parents will be forced to pay Goncalo Amaral £750,000, after he made a bid to sue them for compensation.
The couple will face Amaral in the European Court, as public money which was funding the search for Madeline is about to dry up.
A source told the Sun: 'It seems you can say anything you like about someone in Portugal, no matter how awful, and get away with it.
'If the European Court rules against them the trustees will decide on how best to make any payments.
'It would be a blow but Kate and Gerry would keep their heads up and carry on searching.'
It is believed that Kate and Gerry have had to take money from the fund in the past to cover costs of previous hearings.
Retired Det Chief Insp Mick Neville, who last year investigated the case, said: 'It is tragic that funds to try to find her could be lost because of this legal action.
'There is every reason to believe she may be alive.'
te.1. The action against the detective, Amaral, which they lost, concluded in Jan 2017.
2. Costs were awarded against the McCanns
3. They are currently trying to take their case to the ECHR. One cannot take an individual to the ECHR, only a nation state, so they are suing Portugal, not Amaral. I think the chances of a couple who left their kids alone and lost one and who have already cost Portugal a small fortune, are not great.
4. They have always funded this using the donated money, ever since they embarked on it in 2009.
5. Amaral has not brought an action against them, nor has he been awarded ''compo'', as the Sun put it. He has been awarded his costs. There was some discussion about a claim for other expenses he incurred, as the McCanns had his assets frozen for years and he had to go back to court to have them order the McCann lawyers to return the seized copies of his book.
6. They probably never expected to lose or to be saddled with costs, but thems the breaks.
7. They are liable for the costs in the case against Amaral regardless of the outcome of the case they have filed with the ECHR. They are two separate things.
8. The law does not permit them to withhold payment pending the outcome of the new case.
9. Even if they were to succeed, the payouts are usually very small and virtually unenforceable
Other than that, it was spot on.
snake_oil said:
Re: Gerry appearing on R4 to talk about it.
Other men in similar positions? Jeez. Only a fMothersruin said:
No shame that .
Staggering..Gerry McCann said:
I decided it was a good opportunity to say something about the special bond between fathers and daughters, thinking that speaking openly might help other men in similar positions. It feels like the right time.
A bond so special, he left them alone in an apartment whilst going out on the piss. Is he some kind of sociopath? I genuinely do have no words.king idiot leaves their children alone and buggers off with their mates.Am I reading this correctly?
The court case is upcoming, which if they lose means all the 'public donated' funds remaining will evaporate to pay their legal and damages costs, followed by the C4 Gerry show about his 'mental health' problems, which will feature a poem read by a couple celeb actors from Game of Thrones and Casualty, and it will be aired the day prior to Scotland Yard's funding for their Maddie inquiry runs out.
Coincidence or perfection in timing?
The court case is upcoming, which if they lose means all the 'public donated' funds remaining will evaporate to pay their legal and damages costs, followed by the C4 Gerry show about his 'mental health' problems, which will feature a poem read by a couple celeb actors from Game of Thrones and Casualty, and it will be aired the day prior to Scotland Yard's funding for their Maddie inquiry runs out.
Coincidence or perfection in timing?
snake_oil said:
I thought the fund was there to find the child - not pay their ill-advised legal fees and damages.
That's not quite what the fund was set up for.The Fund said:
The full objects of the Fund are:
The question is whether the legal cost fall within those objects.- To secure the safe return to her family of Madeleine McCann who was abducted in Praia da Luz, Portugal on Thursday 3rd May 2007;
- To procure that Madeleine's abduction is thoroughly investigated and that her abductors, as well as those who played or play any part in assisting them, are identified and brought to justice; and
- To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine's family.
- If the above objects are fulfilled then the objects of the Foundation shall be to pursue such purposes in similar cases arising in the United Kingdom, Portugal or elsewhere.
skwdenyer said:
snake_oil said:
I thought the fund was there to find the child - not pay their ill-advised legal fees and damages.
That's not quite what the fund was set up for.The Fund said:
The full objects of the Fund are:
The question is whether the legal cost fall within those objects.- To secure the safe return to her family of Madeleine McCann who was abducted in Praia da Luz, Portugal on Thursday 3rd May 2007;
- To procure that Madeleine's abduction is thoroughly investigated and that her abductors, as well as those who played or play any part in assisting them, are identified and brought to justice; and
- To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine's family.
- If the above objects are fulfilled then the objects of the Foundation shall be to pursue such purposes in similar cases arising in the United Kingdom, Portugal or elsewhere.
The Fund said:
The full objects of the Fund are:
Interesting choice of words there. Very presumptuous. - To secure the safe return to her family of Madeleine McCann who was abducted in Praia da Luz, Portugal on Thursday 3rd May 2007;
- To procure that Madeleine's abduction is thoroughly investigated and that her abductors, as well as those who played or play any part in assisting them, are identified and brought to justice; and
- To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine's family.
- If the above objects are fulfilled then the objects of the Foundation shall be to pursue such purposes in similar cases arising in the United Kingdom, Portugal or elsewhere.
And if it turns out she wasn't abducted, what will the fund then do. Refund everyone?
In my opinion the only way this case gets resolved now is due a confession.
Too much time has passed for new evidence to be brought forward given the scope of the previous investigation(s).
That the McCann's are pursuing further legal action is no surprise, they seem very happy to throw a lawsuit around. Easy done when it's not your money I suppose
That some of the British press have got the latest story arse-backwards (either deliberately or negligently) is no surprise either.
Too much time has passed for new evidence to be brought forward given the scope of the previous investigation(s).
That the McCann's are pursuing further legal action is no surprise, they seem very happy to throw a lawsuit around. Easy done when it's not your money I suppose
That some of the British press have got the latest story arse-backwards (either deliberately or negligently) is no surprise either.
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