More Dubai craziness

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Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

159 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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Jockman said:
fizz47 said:
Ari said:
Perhaps you should explain your theory to the poster above who stopped two women getting drug raped by men in the ladies toilet and ended up nearly being arrested himself for drinking and for outrageous behaviour for going into the ladies loo to stop it in the first place.

Tell him to stop being so arrogant. smile
By no means was I stateing that’s acceptable from any view point whatsoever in the same way when bad st gets covered up here in this country - there will be knobheads everywhere in the world regardless of race, colour creed etc.

All I was saying that if a country has different rules and ways of living different to what we are use to - if we don’t like it then we should avoid it... I don’t think any country promotes and think it’s acceptable to get women drunk and rape them.. the fact that fk heads get away with it is a different matter altogether and more to do with certain person in power rather than the culture of living there...

1000s of expats get by everyday without getting into difficulties...
Indeed. It really isn't that difficult.
Unless you are a female - who just got raped? - Am I right?

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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Troubleatmill said:
Unless you are a female - who just got raped? - Am I right?
Give the place a miss. Suits me. Suits you.

BMR

944 posts

178 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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It's been summed up quite well in here but a report on the radio news caught my attention today. I think it was someone from the 'charity' that assists people such as the one in this case.

The man said if you travel to Dubai, just keep in mind.

'If you drink anything alcoholic, you are breaking the law.'

'If you travel with your boyfriend or girlfriend and stay in the same room, you are breaking the law.'

jdw100

4,113 posts

164 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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BMR said:
It's been summed up quite well in here but a report on the radio news caught my attention today. I think it was someone from the 'charity' that assists people such as the one in this case.

The man said if you travel to Dubai, just keep in mind.

'If you drink anything alcoholic, you are breaking the law.'

'If you travel with your boyfriend or girlfriend and stay in the same room, you are breaking the law.'
Where I live they have very strict drug laws. It's well publicised and due to a number of high profile cases shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

I would cheerfully walk around London with some coke in my pocket, knowing that I'm unlikely to get more than a tap on the wrist. I'm a firm advocate for the legalisation of drugs etc.

Here, I would not go within 10 metres of someone doing drugs.

And yet.....every year Westeners get locked up here for being in possession of drugs.

I have no sympathy, how stupid do you have to be?

It's illegal. That's their rules, I 99% disagree with the rules but them's the rules.

Also with Dubai if you share a room with your unmarried partner surely its obvious to you that if you commit another infraction the authorities could use this against you to build a bigger case/persecute you. It's a risk.

Colonial

13,553 posts

205 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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It's funny how the usual law and order tough on crime types seem to hate countries that actually have the same kind of tough on crime approach they want.

And suddenly are massive feminists concerned about gender equality.

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Colonial said:
It's funny how the usual law and order tough on crime types seem to hate countries that actually have the same kind of tough on crime approach they want.

And suddenly are massive feminists concerned about gender equality.
Not even remotely comparable.
Utter ridiculous nonsense.

Colonial

13,553 posts

205 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
Not even remotely comparable.
Utter ridiculous nonsense.
Tough on crime. Tough on the causes of crime.

You should be all over it like a rash. You've got a lot more in common with medieval beliefs than most people in the UK.

Liokault

2,837 posts

214 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Colonial said:
Funkycoldribena said:
Not even remotely comparable.
Utter ridiculous nonsense.
Tough on crime. Tough on the causes of crime.

You should be all over it like a rash. You've got a lot more in common with medieval beliefs than most people in the UK.
Your right, we should respect Sharia law for the way they have controlled the outrageous crime of hip touching.

Frankly I’m getting to scared to leave my house here in the UK, what with all the hip touching that we are subjected to these days .

shirt

22,556 posts

201 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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BMR said:
It's been summed up quite well in here but a report on the radio news caught my attention today. I think it was someone from the 'charity' that assists people such as the one in this case.

The man said if you travel to Dubai, just keep in mind.

'If you drink anything alcoholic, you are breaking the law.'

'If you travel with your boyfriend or girlfriend and stay in the same room, you are breaking the law.'
'Law'

No one cares, certainly not the authorities. Only if you do something stupid then these laws will be used against you.

Let's go through the UK news and look at the stories of injustice, the level of crime and poverty, number of rapes and paedo cases, and see how the 2 compare eh?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Are you suggesting that Dubai is some sort of haven of peace and the UK is a lawless jungle? At least the UK, for all its faults, has political freedom and doesn't imprison women after they are gang raped. The UK also has a free media, so unpleasant things are reported. Do you suppose that in Dubai all that goes on is freely reported?

Randy Winkman

16,131 posts

189 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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shirt said:
BMR said:
It's been summed up quite well in here but a report on the radio news caught my attention today. I think it was someone from the 'charity' that assists people such as the one in this case.

The man said if you travel to Dubai, just keep in mind.

'If you drink anything alcoholic, you are breaking the law.'

'If you travel with your boyfriend or girlfriend and stay in the same room, you are breaking the law.'
'Law'

No one cares, certainly not the authorities. Only if you do something stupid then these laws will be used against you.

Let's go through the UK news and look at the stories of injustice, the level of crime and poverty, number of rapes and paedo cases, and see how the 2 compare eh?
Which do you think is better for crime, human rights and equality then?

shirt

22,556 posts

201 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
Are you suggesting that Dubai is some sort of haven of peace and the UK is a lawless jungle? At least the UK, for all its faults, has political freedom and doesn't imprison women after they are gang raped. The UK also has a free media, so unpleasant things are reported. Do you suppose that in Dubai all that goes on is freely reported?
i know your default position is to sit on your high horse but why not come down off it once in a while. where did i suggest either of those things?

Randy Winkman said:
Which do you think is better for crime, human rights and equality then?
for [non financial] crime, dubai wins by some margin. human rights loses by an equal margin, also lagging behind on equality.


anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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OK, so what does -

shirt said:
Let's go through the UK news and look at the stories of injustice, the level of crime and poverty, number of rapes and paedo cases, and see how the 2 compare eh?
mean, if it is not suggesting that Dubai is preferable to the UK by reference to those factors?

Chilli

17,318 posts

236 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
mean, if it is not suggesting that Dubai is preferable to the UK by reference to those factors?
Dubai is preferable to me and my family, by a massive margin...hence I have lived in Dubai for nearly 9 years. However, trying to compare the 2 is madness.
Crime as in everyday crime (mugging, car theft, burglary, being beaten up for fun) doesn't happen often in Dubai, whereas in Essex, my local Tesco's Metro had to have security guards! Just an example of the crime topic.

I'm not suggesting that Dubai is for everyone, but I love the place.

Going back to the original story, there was indeed a lot more to it than just some geezer touching anothers hip. That's nonsense. Just like the time where the motorbike rider (forget his name) was locked up (whilst investigations were carried out) here after his wife died after falling off a balcony....The PH masses ( I was actually one of them and offered my help), were outraged that "medieval Dubai" has done it again....whereas in fact the feds found her blood all over the place in their hotel room...etc....and he was arrested the minute he stepped foot back in the UK....no idea what happened next though.

Yes, some crap goes on here, but as it does in ALL countries. Personally, if loutish behaviour (not sure if that's a word) becomes acceptable here, I'll move on.


anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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If you are happy to live in a country that will imprison a woman who is raped, because there are fewer yobs near the supermarket, well, that's a choice. I expect that the trains run on time I(if there are trains).

Chilli

17,318 posts

236 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
If you are happy to live in a country that will imprison a woman who is raped, because there are fewer yobs near the supermarket, well, that's a choice. I expect that the trains run on time I(if there are trains).
That's just silly...and if you had half a brain you'd know that.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Why is it silly? You are making a choice to live in a country that lacks civic freedoms and which has a pernicious attitude to some aspects of life, because it delivers some things that you like. That's a choice, but it's not without ethical awkwardness.

Chilli

17,318 posts

236 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
Why is it silly? You are making a choice to live in a country that lacks civic freedoms and which has a pernicious attitude to some aspects of life, because it delivers some things that you like. That's a choice, but it's not without ethical awkwardness.
Because it isn't the law that if you are raped you go to prison.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Explain that to Alicia Gali. Hey, she ony did eight months in jail. Not a big price to pay for you to be free of Tesco yobs.

Chilli

17,318 posts

236 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
Explain that to Alicia Gali. Hey, she ony did eight months in jail. Not a big price to pay for you to be free of Tesco yobs.
Again, you're being silly.