Harvey Weinstein

[Pesty]

Not sure where I am on that story I sort of agree with you

However just the age gap but the power, it doesn’t seem much different to Weinstein he might have felt obliged to get roles etc.

Weather you like it or not the age of concept was 18 in that state so she was breaking the law.

So letting her off for it is double standards probably I would have thought.

[Russian Troll Bot]

Burwood said:

So he had consensual sex with her and he cries rape. Why would there be a selfie of them ‘in bed’. The US culture of big cash payouts for doing fk all is a joke. A 17 year old popular young guy shags a famous relatively fit bird and he thinks hey I can get 400k for it. He should be ashamed

Edited by Burwood on Monday 20th August 08:56

He didn't have consensual sex, he was underage

[Burwood]

Pesty said:

Not sure where I am on that story.

Not just the age gap but the power, it doesn’t seem much different to Weinstein he might have felt obliged to get roles etc.

Weather you like it or not the age of concept was 18 in that state so she was breaking the law.

And he took advantage of that fact. How is it, one feels so violated yet 400k can make that pain go away. As opposed to reporting the incident and maybe protecting other young victims.

[Pesty]

Burwood said:

And he took advantage of that fact. How is it, one feels so violated yet 400k can make that pain go away. As opposed to reporting the incident and maybe protecting other young victims.

I agree completely there, but isn’t that what all these women did too?

[Burwood]

And as fo Terry Crews. A man who’s image is is a take no st hard man. Another guy gets the wrong idea and cups his balls as a joke . And if not a joke hard man crews should have dealt him a good kicking. But no, he ruins his career by crying about it. Career/image in tatters. Hey gotta sue for 10m now

I seriously think that these weird situations where another guy feels like he can grab your balls, can only be drug fuelled or a gay party. I suggest you stay away from drug parties Terry. Maybe his brains were fried and he can’t recall.

Edited by Burwood on Monday 20th August 09:15

[LaurasOtherHalf]

If you read the full article it would seem his parents rinsed him of $1.5M and he was broke and behind on his rent.

Never mind the fact that a (in the legal sense) minor can rent and live alone, get into debt and yet not have a shag, it just goes to show what a sordid little cesspit the whole of Hollywood is.

About the only thing that’s irrefutable is she was tweeting about giving an underage actor a role in her next film whilst committing statutory rape against him. Which seems at least as bad as what HW did to her.

[Burwood]

Pesty said:

Burwood said:

And he took advantage of that fact. How is it, one feels so violated yet 400k can make that pain go away. As opposed to reporting the incident and maybe protecting other young victims.

I agree completely there, but isn’t that what all these women did too?

Some yes, others not so sure. Big difference between a predator and a one off. This actress doesn’t sound too powerful to me. Maybe to young up and coming actors (snigger) she is.

[irocfan]

Burwood said:

And as fo Terry Crews. A man who’s image is is a take no st hard man. Another guy gets the wrong idea and cups his balls as a joke . And if not a joke hard man crews should have dealt him a good kicking. But no, he ruins his career by crying about it. Career/image in tatters. Hey gotta sue for 10m now

I seriously think that these weird situations where another guy feels like he can grab your balls, can only be drug fuelled or a gay party. I suggest you stay away from drug parties Terry. Maybe his brains were fried and he can’t recall.

Edited by Burwood on Monday 20th August 09:15

Are you for fking real????

[Burwood]

No, it was meant to be humour

[Pesty]

Burwood said:

No, it was meant to be humour

Well it failed on that count.


I can see the news headlines now. Black man assaults party growers.

I’m sure he’d get plenty of roles after doing that.

I still think he should have smashed his teeth in though.

[Rovinghawk]

LaurasOtherHalf said:

About the only thing that’s irrefutable is she was tweeting about giving an underage actor a role in her next film whilst committing statutory rape against him. Which seems at least as bad as what HW did to her.

Sorry- has HW either been found guilty or confessed?

If not then it's what he allegedly did to her.

[Escapegoat]

Rovinghawk said:

Sorry- has HW either been found guilty or confessed?

If not then it's what he allegedly did to her.

OK = like Jimmy Saville, you say?

[saaby93]

randomman said:

If he engaged in illegal sexual activity then I hope justice is done.

If all he is guilty of is using his position to get his willy wet then this should be the ignition to an internal evolution in Hollywood and not a witch hunt of anyone that has every flirted with another person. I'm still amazed at the amount of people that can't seem to see the difference between consensual actions or otherwise, if these ladies went into it with their eyes open then, whilst eithically and morally ambiguous, it's legally allowed as far as I can see.

I haven't made it in Hollywood, if I choose to play with an older man's naughty bits to further my career then that's my choice, it sucks (pun intended) that that's the way it is but is anyone actually surprised?

This is quite a thoughtful post
It was in the news some months ago, the 'other side' are the actresses who used their sexuality to gain good roles.
Without saying it should affect this case, how should those be treated? Is there a crime there too?

[Rovinghawk]

Escapegoat said:

Rovinghawk said:

Sorry- has HW either been found guilty or confessed?

If not then it's what he allegedly did to her.

OK = like Jimmy Saville, you say?

I don't recognise the authority of the Court of Everybody Knows.

HW might or might not be an absolute st but he's innocent until proven guilty. I'm sure you'd like the same presumption if ever you're accused of something.

[zygalski]

saaby93 said:

randomman said:

If he engaged in illegal sexual activity then I hope justice is done.

If all he is guilty of is using his position to get his willy wet then this should be the ignition to an internal evolution in Hollywood and not a witch hunt of anyone that has every flirted with another person. I'm still amazed at the amount of people that can't seem to see the difference between consensual actions or otherwise, if these ladies went into it with their eyes open then, whilst eithically and morally ambiguous, it's legally allowed as far as I can see.

I haven't made it in Hollywood, if I choose to play with an older man's naughty bits to further my career then that's my choice, it sucks (pun intended) that that's the way it is but is anyone actually surprised?

This is quite a thoughtful post
It was in the news some months ago, the 'other side' are the actresses who used their sexuality to gain good roles.
Without saying it should affect this case, how should those be treated? Is there a crime there too?

saaby93 said:

This is quite a thoughtful post
It was in the news some months ago, the 'other side' are the actresses who used their sexuality to gain good roles.
Without saying it should affect this case, how should those be treated? Is there a crime there too?

Unlike yours...

Are those actresses accused of raping or sexually assaulting men to get roles?

[Russian Troll Bot]

Burwood said:

Pesty said:

Burwood said:

And he took advantage of that fact. How is it, one feels so violated yet 400k can make that pain go away. As opposed to reporting the incident and maybe protecting other young victims.

I agree completely there, but isn’t that what all these women did too?

Some yes, others not so sure. Big difference between a predator and a one off. This actress doesn’t sound too powerful to me. Maybe to young up and coming actors (snigger) she is.

Looking into her history she comes across as a pretty horrible person, it's not been long since her ex killed himself after she was snapped with someone else, and she was unhappy with another ex after he confronted Weinstein

[Du1point8]

zygalski said:

saaby93 said:

randomman said:

If he engaged in illegal sexual activity then I hope justice is done.

If all he is guilty of is using his position to get his willy wet then this should be the ignition to an internal evolution in Hollywood and not a witch hunt of anyone that has every flirted with another person. I'm still amazed at the amount of people that can't seem to see the difference between consensual actions or otherwise, if these ladies went into it with their eyes open then, whilst eithically and morally ambiguous, it's legally allowed as far as I can see.

I haven't made it in Hollywood, if I choose to play with an older man's naughty bits to further my career then that's my choice, it sucks (pun intended) that that's the way it is but is anyone actually surprised?

This is quite a thoughtful post
It was in the news some months ago, the 'other side' are the actresses who used their sexuality to gain good roles.
Without saying it should affect this case, how should those be treated? Is there a crime there too?

saaby93 said:

This is quite a thoughtful post
It was in the news some months ago, the 'other side' are the actresses who used their sexuality to gain good roles.
Without saying it should affect this case, how should those be treated? Is there a crime there too?

Unlike yours...

Are those actresses accused of raping or sexually assaulting men to get roles?

Are many of those actresses having a metoo moment after they agreed to have sex with HW to gain the role in his film?

Like going out and happily sleeping with someone and then crying rape in the morning afterwards in the guise of 'oh... I was forced to do it'.

Im not saying hes completely innocent and think he is a pig, but there sounds like a lot of BS coming up after people have had a successful break and are now complaining.

[steveatesh]

zygalski said:

saaby93 said:

randomman said:

If he engaged in illegal sexual activity then I hope justice is done.

If all he is guilty of is using his position to get his willy wet then this should be the ignition to an internal evolution in Hollywood and not a witch hunt of anyone that has every flirted with another person. I'm still amazed at the amount of people that can't seem to see the difference between consensual actions or otherwise, if these ladies went into it with their eyes open then, whilst eithically and morally ambiguous, it's legally allowed as far as I can see.

I haven't made it in Hollywood, if I choose to play with an older man's naughty bits to further my career then that's my choice, it sucks (pun intended) that that's the way it is but is anyone actually surprised?

This is quite a thoughtful post
It was in the news some months ago, the 'other side' are the actresses who used their sexuality to gain good roles.
Without saying it should affect this case, how should those be treated? Is there a crime there too?

saaby93 said:

This is quite a thoughtful post
It was in the news some months ago, the 'other side' are the actresses who used their sexuality to gain good roles.
Without saying it should affect this case, how should those be treated? Is there a crime there too?

Unlike yours...

Are those actresses accused of raping or sexually assaulting men to get roles?

Is there not a difference between those women who had consensual sex in order to gain a position and those women who were victims of a sexual assault?

If anybody is found guilty of rape or sexual assault then they deserve everything they get.

There have been several articles written by women bringing up cases of other women using their sexual power on a man in a position to give those women something they wanted, film roles for example.

Assuming both parties consented it appears harmless until you consider all the other women who weren’t in with a chance of that position because of those actions. So other women are disadvantaged by such actions.

I witnessed it myself when interviewing for a job.

Surely disadvantaging other women by use of sexual power to give yourself an advantage over them or to gain something that one of those other women might have earned is misogynistic?

[saaby93]

steveatesh said:

I witnessed it myself when interviewing for a job.

Not only for job
Think of mortgage applications, car purchase, night club entry, bartering in a shop.
Inverse doubtless happens too
Isnt most of it part of life?
It's only when it gets out of hand the courts become involved

[Moonhawk]

Interesting to see how this plays out (if it does).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-4525...

I wonder how many other situations there are like this.

(also seeing this is NPE - delete as appropriate....."it'd be like all my Christmases....", "i'd be on her like hair on a gorilla", "what 17 your old lad wouldn't" etc etc)