Harvey Weinstein

[easytiger123]

Accusations now being levelled against another Hollywood bigwig.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4987460/Ac...

30 seconds on Google reveals the identity of the actor.

[Toaster]

popeyewhite said:

Eric Mc said:

Inability to display empathy or compassion is a well known psychopathic trait.

You'd need a lot more symptoms than that to diagnosis any kind of psychopathy. Lots of people bandying about terminology they don't understand on this thread. But really it boils down to the fact people who don't share your values/beliefs/opinions are not mentally ill. You, and others, need to deal with that. The fact you feel strongly enough to suggest others are borderline ill because their opinion differs from yours actually suggests an implacably dogmatic approach, and, truthfully, little else.

Well said that Man

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Eric Mc said:

Insisting on the last word is another sign. I'd get some help.

Not accepting the boundaries of ones knowledge is another one and so is not recognising that there are multiple views in this world.

[hyphen]

easytiger123 said:

Accusations now being levelled against another Hollywood bigwig.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4987460/Ac...

30 seconds on Google reveals the identity of the actor.

Kevin Spacey https://twitter.com/HeatherUnruh/status/9189099710...

[Eric Mc]

Just be careful about throwing names around on a forum. The thread could end up being shut down.

[hyphen]

Eric Mc said:

Just be careful about throwing names around on a forum. The thread could end up being shut down.

I am not 'throwing names around', someone credible (high profile Journo) has alleged against Mr Spacey, and I have posted a link to that person's comment and it is made clear in the forum that is merely an allegation at this stage.

No different from Weinstein who is also accused with allegations...

[liner33]

hyphen said:

No different from Weinstein who is also accused with allegations...

Absolutely a point often missed

[Toaster]

hyphen said:

Eric Mc said:

Just be careful about throwing names around on a forum. The thread could end up being shut down.

I am not 'throwing names around', someone credible (high profile Journo) has alleged against Mr Spacey, and I have posted a link to that person's comment and it is made clear in the forum that is merely an allegation at this stage.

No different from Weinstein who is also accused with allegations...

I suspect just like when the Jimmy Savile story broke in the UK the US may have a tsunami of allegations some will be true some not but hopefully the truth prevails and those who need to be prosecuted are.

[superlightr]

should men when accused of a sexual crime have their anonymity protected in the same way the accuser can? (UK laws)

I don't know the laws in the USA etc.

[Collectingbrass]

superlightr said:

should men when accused of a sexual crime have their anonymity protected in the same way the accuser can? (UK laws)

I don't know the laws in the USA etc.

As I understand it the reason the HW story has broken now is that the original accusation that broke the dam took place in New York, which is subject to different laws than California and the complainant, & media, have more legal protection (or HW has less, same thing I guess) in the New York jurisdiction. IANAL though...

[hyphen]

superlightr said:

should men when accused of a sexual crime have their anonymity protected in the same way the accuser can? (UK laws)

I don't know the laws in the USA etc.

The Waterloo Station Sex couple that were at it in public last year - where the female solicitor who initially accepted a caution but later claimed sex assault purely to protect her name, whereas the male Barrister was plastered all over the news, showed that the UK laws need changing.

The male was cleared of assault (2 witnesses saw she was up for it...), yet to protect her as a potential victim, the females name is still unknown due to automatic lifetime anonymity- would not be surprised if her employers/law society probably are non the wiser.

Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 17th October 13:22

[Leithen]

Scott Rosenberg - Everybody knew.

[Ayahuasca]

Leithen said:

Scott Rosenberg - Everybody knew.

Good piece.

[hyphen]

Ayahuasca said:

Leithen said:

Scott Rosenberg - Everybody knew.

Good piece.

[NDA]

superlightr said:

should men when accused of a sexual crime have their anonymity protected in the same way the accuser can? (UK laws)

I think anonymity until they have been charged.

A member of my family (not immediate family) was 'abused' as a young boy - made to take all his clothes off and looked at for 15 minutes or so. Not touched in any way, but obviously a very troubling thing to happen. Nothing was done, the family didn't want the shame of the Police being involved etc etc. Had this older bloke gone on to commit other crimes (and I don't know if he did) then having his name out there might have prompted my family member to come forward and say 'actually, this happened to me but I didn't report it'.

So it's not an easy subject and I'm slightly conflicted on the issue. I think there is value in publishing a name, but I still think (despite the above) that that should only happen after someone has been charged.

[bitchstewie]

superlightr said:

should men when accused of a sexual crime have their anonymity protected in the same way the accuser can? (UK laws)

I don't know the laws in the USA etc.

Instinct is yest but I can see the argument that in cases like this it may encourage victims to come forward who might not otherwise have done so.

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bhstewie said:

Instinct is yest but I can see the argument that in cases like this it may encourage victims to come forward who might not otherwise have done so.

Doesn't such a route make assumptions about the accused's innocence?

[bitchstewie]

Cold said:

bhstewie said:

Instinct is yest but I can see the argument that in cases like this it may encourage victims to come forward who might not otherwise have done so.

Doesn't such a route make assumptions about the accused's innocence?

One of the things that someone suggested that stuck with me as sounding feasible was that at some stage in the process a judge could decide if their name should be released.

I don't think there is a perfect answer.

[EddieSteadyGo]

hyphen said:

Ayahuasca said:

Leithen said:

Scott Rosenberg - Everybody knew.

Good piece.

Excellent link.

Thought provoking and authentic, without the sanctimonious, hand-wringing attitude which is so forcefully projected across our society.

[wc98]

EddieSteadyGo said:

Excellent link.

Thought provoking and authentic, without the sanctimonious, hand-wringing attitude which is so forcefully projected across our society.

a good look into the morals ,or lack of them by a certain group of people whose lives are incredibly shallow . very unusual for those of a self centred persuasion to be able to recognise their failings so an interesting read.