What race/ethnic group am I?

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anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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I thought you weren't allowed to ask race, unless it was for a specific need, e.g. medical. I live in a very racist country, where it is asked by every one for everything, my answer, including on my employment record for the last 20 years are Race -not your business and Religion -Jedi.
Never had a problem with either answer,

Unexpected Item In The Bagging Area

7,025 posts

189 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Just as a point of order it's Prof Alice Roberts, not Dr.

HTP99

22,543 posts

140 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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I've often wondered what my mix is, I'm permanently tanned, not dark but I guess a more Mediterranean appearance and I do get darker when the sun is about and very easily too, recently a photo of myself with the wife, her brother, sister in law, 2 nephews and her mum really showed it up, I really stood out as I was far, far darker than they were.

I always get "oh have you been on holiday" from customers who haven't seen me for a while, when I haven't been away.

My dad had the appearance of Muhammed Al Fayed about him and his dad was dark too, my aunt (dad's sister), looks foreign with an almost Asian apearance about her, she was asked when she was giving birth to my cousin, 35 years ago; "when are you going back?", my other aunt (dad's other sister), is as stereotypically white European as you could get, the same with my sister, who is also a red head, her kids are as pale as pale can be too.

My youngest takes after me in her appearance, the eldest tales after my wife so a white European look.

I do love all the mix that everyone has and it makes me laugh when the EDL (or similar) are banging on about being white English and get rid of everyone else but I would bet my house that if a DNA test was done on all of them there would be mixes.

KrissKross

2,182 posts

101 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Countdown said:
KrissKross said:
Is it bad to be different or should we all be identical and beige?
I think just being human would be a good start for some people.

XJSJohn

15,965 posts

219 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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My daughter has all this to look forward to hehe

Her Mum is 1/4 Arabic, 1/4 Balinese and 1/2 Javanese
Her Dad is 1/2 Irish, 1/4 British and 1/4 somewhere else in eastern Europe (never did get to the bottom of Grandad's Story ....)
Born in Singapore and has 3 passports (none of which are for her place of birth)

She is going to be a confused one as she grows up, but in simplistic terms, i guess she is Eurasian hehe

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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XJSJohn said:
My daughter has all this to look forward to hehe

Her Mum is 1/4 Arabic, 1/4 Balinese and 1/2 Javanese
Her Dad is 1/2 Irish, 1/4 British and 1/4 somewhere else in eastern Europe (never did get to the bottom of Grandad's Story ....)
Born in Singapore and has 3 passports (none of which are for her place of birth)

She is going to be a confused one as she grows up, but in simplistic terms, i guess she is Eurasian hehe
My hope had always been that the more racially intermixed people get, the less this stuff would matter. But it seems to be going the other way.

XJSJohn

15,965 posts

219 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Johnnytheboy said:
XJSJohn said:
My daughter has all this to look forward to hehe

Her Mum is 1/4 Arabic, 1/4 Balinese and 1/2 Javanese
Her Dad is 1/2 Irish, 1/4 British and 1/4 somewhere else in eastern Europe (never did get to the bottom of Grandad's Story ....)
Born in Singapore and has 3 passports (none of which are for her place of birth)

She is going to be a confused one as she grows up, but in simplistic terms, i guess she is Eurasian hehe
My hope had always been that the more racially intermixed people get, the less this stuff would matter. But it seems to be going the other way.
I know what you mean,, but it seems that everyone likes to have an identity!

Derek Smith

45,654 posts

248 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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I had an uncle born in Berwick upon Tweed. He reckoned he was Scottish, not because of parents, who were Irish catholics, but just location. He was teased as to his belief, but no matter how often he was told that it was in England when he was born, he said it was basically Scottish and that the Tweed marks the 'real' border. He also had a lot to say about Hadrian but Antonine seemed to have passed him by.

Had I been old enough to speak up in company I would have probably told him he was wrong but now I can't see any reason for it to matter. Looking at the history of the town, his nationality appears not so much a matter of parentage or place as dates.

At least he didn't take up the bagpipes.


Lotobear

6,334 posts

128 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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...did he take up the original (and lovely) pipes from just to the south of the Border then?

Kermit power

28,642 posts

213 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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I think it was Peter Ustinov who, on a US Immigration form, selected "other" for skin colour, and then wrote in "pink".

Derek Smith

45,654 posts

248 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Unexpected Item In The Bagging Area said:
Just as a point of order it's Prof Alice Roberts, not Dr.
I have a book of hers where she identifies as a medical doctor and anthropologist.

I've just gone through her website and she uses neither doctor nor professor as a title, although she again mentions being a medical doctor. The only time professor is used is as the title of the post she holds. Obviously, she's a lecturer, in her case at a university. I think, after the way this thread has gone, people should be allowed to call themselves what they want. I'll call her Alice from now on.

There's a particularly apposite quote, given the subject of this thread, from her website, pulled from the book of hers I have. It sums up nicely the race myth:

“We’re all members of a young species… Wherever we’ve ended up, all over the world, we’re Africans under the skin. And uncovering that story, retracing the steps of our ancestors, has given me a profound sense of our common humanity: our shared past, and our shared future”

It fails to explain why so many people take an instant dislike to those who look and act ever so slightly differently.

stevesingo

4,854 posts

222 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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You can identify as any race you like. Seems to work for gender!

It's your right and anyone who denies that right is discriminatory!

foxbody-87

2,675 posts

166 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Derek Smith said:
It fails to explain why so many people take an instant dislike to those who look and act ever so slightly differently.
Tribalism! A strong sense of identity and a healthy mistrust of anyone who looks different is a survival instinct deep-rooted in humans (and animals, in many cases). The difficulty being that society has evolved rapidly, whereas evolution can take millions of years. Most people are brought up with this tendency sufficiently overridden, but often when st hits the fan (for example, civil war etc) history shows it reappears pretty quick. Basically, we can all be very nice until we perceive we are under threat, and then people start doing things that they would have previously thought unthinkable.